By the Dollar Signs: Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys

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Just a few numbers and a question.

A_________________

$840 million (2018) - Operating Revenue
+$100 million (2018) - Premium Seat Revenue
$150 million (2018) - Sponsorship Revenue
$200 million (2017) - Merchandising Revenue [Silver Star]
Tens of millions (2018) - Non Football Related AT&T Stadium Revenue

B__________________

$233 million (2017) - Legends Hospitality [Jones owns 1/3]

C__________________

$255 million (2018) - Shared Revenue Streams/Majority Major Television Network Deals
$645 million (Current) - Today's Oil Holdings/Market Value [Jones owns 84% of Comstock Resources | CRK-NYSE ]



Above are available published data of Jones' pocketbook. For decades, some peoples have stated they do not financially contribute to Jones' wealth and people other than themselves support Jones' stranglehold on his franchise. Other people have stated there are coercive methods of motivating Jones into lessening or relinquishing control over football operations.

Certainly, A and B above can be impacted somewhat by consumers' efforts, A more than B of course. Consumers would have far less direct influence over C.

Knowing all of the above, how much would any of the numbers in A and B need to decrease before Jones would realistically be motivated into removing himself as general manager?

Sources
https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article215101760.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...most-valuable-sports-teams-2018/#23446ffc75d1
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/crk
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2018/04/26/jerry-jones-oil-and-gas-firm-nears-deal-for.html
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtba...t-valuable-teams-at-4-8-billion/#b9d47cf243f8
 

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Realistically? Booger is bulletproof. Once he got the stadium done, it was over. Few care that they do not directly benefit him and the situation of the Cowboys owner being the GM is not going to change until he's dead or physically unable to run it.
 

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Realistically? Booger is bulletproof. Once he got the stadium done, it was over. Few care that they do not directly benefit him and the situation of the Cowboys owner being the GM is not going to change until he's dead or physically unable to run it.
May wish to substitute 'physically' with 'mentally'. Jones can be bedridden and still have operative control over franchise affairs. It is a different matter if Jones were legally deemed mentally incompetent though.
 

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Complaining. Acts of grandiose defiance. Recollections of past impractical failed attempts. Three things that automatically create numerous threads and countless posts.

Start a thread with factual information underscoring the central obstacle. Ask for sensible practical strategies to confront Jones using relevant data. What is the response? Crickets.

Bye rational thread.

 

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I too have my issues with good ole JJ, but . The biggest thing I ever built was a 1800 square foot home and a small shed. I have to except he just may know more than me. He also certainly has lost more change down his couch that I have in my check book.
I'm forever grateful for the three trophies and this stadium only fitting for us fans and beloved Cowboys to play in.

JJ and staff simply haven't handled the new cap era that well. then again besides the Pats who has? most others get draft picks wrong too, most other teams seem to have issues at GM, HC,OC,DC too. some sign ridiculous contracts also.,believe me my patience is shot the hell out along with the majority of us here. the 1990s are disappearing into dust.
 

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the 1990s are disappearing into dust.
All history is relevant unless it is forgotten. Nothing stops anyone from desiring the franchise re-ignite its championship legacy and remembering its rich history that began in 1960.

Frustration is a real thing. However, no one, including Jones, can take one's own championship desire and remembrance of the franchise's past away. Fans either lose faith or forget on their own.
 

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All history is relevant unless it is forgotten. Nothing stops anyone from desiring the franchise re-ignite its championship legacy and remembering its rich history that began in 1960.

Frustration is a real thing. However, no one, including Jones, can take one's own championship desire and remembrance of the franchise's past away. Fans either lose faith or forget on their own.
amen
 

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Complaining. Acts of grandiose defiance. Recollections of past impractical failed attempts. Three things that automatically create numerous threads and countless posts.

Start a thread with factual information underscoring the central obstacle. Ask for sensible practical strategies to confront Jones using relevant data. What is the response? Crickets.

Bye rational thread.




In fact i dont know what your are really looking for. You are asking when JJ will step away from GM. The GM and the clubs revenue has nothing to do with each other. Its the owner who cares about that. So what reason should he have to give up that position if the revenue in A or B would decline ?

Shopping the club is another thing and would be the much more logical question.

But maybe i dont understand your post.
 

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I too have my issues with good ole JJ, but . The biggest thing I ever built was a 1800 square foot home and a small shed. I have to except he just may know more than me. He also certainly has lost more change down his couch that I have in my check book.
I'm forever grateful for the three trophies and this stadium only fitting for us fans and beloved Cowboys to play in.

JJ and staff simply haven't handled the new cap era that well. then again besides the Pats who has? most others get draft picks wrong too, most other teams seem to have issues at GM, HC,OC,DC too. some sign ridiculous contracts also.,believe me my patience is shot the hell out along with the majority of us here. the 1990s are disappearing into dust.

Every team in the nfc has handled the salary cap better than Jerry except for the Commanders and lions who along with the cowboys have failed to win a div rd playoff game the past 23 seasons.
 
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Complaining. Acts of grandiose defiance. Recollections of past impractical failed attempts. Three things that automatically create numerous threads and countless posts.

Start a thread with factual information underscoring the central obstacle. Ask for sensible practical strategies to confront Jones using relevant data. What is the response? Crickets.

Bye rational thread.




I don't know, seems like a lot of research for something that most of us could tell you without hesitation, Jerry will be GM for as long as he's physically/mentally capable. Period.
 

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In fact i dont know what your are really looking for. You are asking when JJ will step away from GM. The GM and the clubs revenue has nothing to do with each other. Its the owner who cares about that. So what reason should he have to give up that position if the revenue in A or B would decline ?

Shopping the club is another thing and would be the much more logical question.

But maybe i dont understand your post.
I started a discussion directed at those who always state as fact suggest Jones would step down as general manager if his income was negatively impacted. The numbers were posted in order for those saying it could happen would offer their insight into how any of Jones' revenue could be realistically minimized.

In Jones case, I disagree with "The GM and the clubs revenue has nothing to do with each other." Jones is President, Owner and General Manager of the franchise. Jones cares because he is both owner and general manager.

I have previously started a discussion about Jones shopping the franchise IF buyers were willing to pony up $15+ billion for it. Jones is on record for saying $10 billion would be his starting bid. I doubt he would part with it for that amount. That is another discussion that I personally believe has zero chance of ever happening.

On the other hand, I would say there is a 2% chance of a narcissist like Jones stepping down as general manager for financial reasons. It is that 2% that makes this thread a logical discourse of what if in my opinion.
 

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I don't know, seems like a lot of research for something that most of us could tell you without hesitation, Jerry will be GM for as long as he's physically/mentally capable. Period.
I agree--except the 'physically capable' part. Like I said in another thread, it would not surprise me Jones would remain actively in control of football operations even if he were bedridden. It is a different matter for him if he were ever deemed mentally incompetent though.

The thread was never intended for those who see things as you do. It was mainly directed at those folks who remain defiant that they will never contribute to Jones' wealth while he remained in control. The entire notion is self-symbolic only since it is irrelevant if certain people do not attend home games, buy jerseys, etc. Jones is, as @CouchCoach would describe, bulletproof to efforts meaningless to himself.
 

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Jerry would sell the franchise before stepping down.

There’s only one way to get his attention. Half empty stadiums. It won’t bankrupt him but he’d hate the negative publicity. It would make his sponsors nervous too.

But fans are tied in with PSL’s and simply brokering their tickets out. And Jerry doesn’t seem to care how many opposing fans are there as long as butts are in the seats.
 

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I agree--except the 'physically capable' part. Like I said in another thread, it would not surprise me Jones would remain actively in control of football operations even if he were bedridden. It is a different matter for him if he were ever deemed mentally incompetent though.

The thread was never intended for those who see things as you do. It was mainly directed at those folks who remain defiant that they will never contribute to Jones' wealth while he remained in control. The entire notion is self-symbolic only since it is irrelevant if certain people do not attend home games, buy jerseys, etc. Jones is, as @CouchCoach would describe, bulletproof to efforts meaningless to himself.
He’s bulletproof financially but not publicly. He could still be humiliated with a rebellious display from the fans.
 
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The decreases that might cause Jerry to consider changing the status quo of his football organization are:

1) Declining ticket sales; which would also impact onsite concessions and parking revenues, and would also affect whatever municipal and state perks he receives, since both muni and state governments are currently profiting through whatever revenue-sharing and tax agreements they have with Jones

2) Declining offsite merchandise sales

3) Declining television ratings

If the aforementioned three were to take a solid hit, Jerry would certainly sit up and take notice.

Now be sure and wake me up if/when any of the above occur.
 

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Jerry would sell the franchise before stepping down.

There’s only one way to get his attention. Half empty stadiums. It won’t bankrupt him but he’d hate the negative publicity. It would make his sponsors nervous too.

But fans are tied in with PSL’s and simply brokering their tickets out. And Jerry doesn’t seem to care how many opposing fans are there as long as butts are in the seats.
No he wouldn't. He'd just hand it to his kids.
 

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He’s bulletproof financially but not publicly. He could still be humiliated with a public display of rebellion.
This. There would have to be a new media presence that would need to start consistently calling him out in every presser that he's a part of. The one thing that Jones likes more than anything is the public attention he gets as the "face of the DC" which of course is why he has a puppet HC.
If there was a media source that would consistently rip into JJ and son to a point of publicly humiliating them with their hypocritical management style, perhaps JJ would think about a lower profile and stepping down. As terrible as it sounds Stephen A could be our savior. LOL


 

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I started a discussion directed at those who always state as fact suggest Jones would step down as general manager if his income was negatively impacted. The numbers were posted in order for those saying it could happen would offer their insight into how any of Jones' revenue could be realistically minimized.

In Jones case, I disagree with "The GM and the clubs revenue has nothing to do with each other." Jones is President, Owner and General Manager of the franchise. Jones cares because he is both owner and general manager.

I have previously started a discussion about Jones shopping the franchise IF buyers were willing to pony up $15+ billion for it. Jones is on record for saying $10 billion would be his starting bid. I doubt he would part with it for that amount. That is another discussion that I personally believe has zero chance of ever happening.

On the other hand, I would say there is a 2% chance of a narcissist like Jones stepping down as general manager for financial reasons. It is that 2% that makes this thread a logical discourse of what if in my opinion.
Honestly I believe if the fans had rebelled causing any hardship Jerry would have either sold the franchise or moved it but he wouldnt have stepped down.
 

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Maybe AOC's green new deal will dry up Jer's oil futures.....
 
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