Callahan - OL guru??

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Outside of Ferguson and Mangold who were #1 round picks and the top OL prospects at their positions coming out of college. Who has Callahan mentored to give him the title of OL guru?

Seems Garrett has put a lot of hope and faith in this guy to turn around the OL.
 
I think at some point you have to recognize that not every player can be 'turned around'. This OL has suffered from a talent problem and not a coaching problem.
 
DBOY3141;4561551 said:
Outside of Ferguson and Mangold who were #1 round picks and the top OL prospects at their positions coming out of college. Who has Callahan mentored to give him the title of OL guru?

Seems Garrett has put a lot of hope and faith in this guy to turn around the OL.

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[Seems Garrett has put a lot of hope and faith in this guy to turn around the OL.[/QUOTE]

Hey - it has to start somewhere...
 
Flinger;4561585 said:
[Seems Garrett has put a lot of hope and faith in this guy to turn around the OL.

Hey - it has to start somewhere...[/QUOTE]



Callahan is no particular guru!!! If he was all that...why did the Jets dump him and why was he available for us to scrape him up off the pile. Even players who played for him at Nebraska, Oakland & the Jets weren't particularily sad to see him go....
You better hope he does better here...Or Tony purchases jet shoes...?
 
LittleD;4561589 said:
Hey - it has to start somewhere...



Callahan is no particular guru!!! If he was all that...why did the Jets dump him and why was he available for us to scrape him up off the pile. Even players who played for him at Nebraska, Oakland & the Jets weren't particularily sad to see him go....
You better hope he does better here...Or Tony purchases jet shoes...?[/QUOTE]

“Ryan’s response to the Schottenheimer job-security question was telling,” Cimini wrote. “He looked away, there was a nervous laugh, and he went on and on about how it’s unfair to blame a coach — except him.”

If Schottenheimer goes, offensive line coach Bill Callahan is a logical candidate to replace him. But it’s possible Callahan could also choose to leave.

Cimini writes that Callahan has turned down multiple contract extension offers from the Jets, including recently. Callahan, whose contact is up, decided to keep his options open. (Perhaps so he could join old pal Jon Gruden somewhere.)

Wow Callahan turned down a multi year deal was in line to take over for Schottenheimer. Seems your take on the situation is different than reality


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/29/bill-callahan-turned-down-extension-with-jets/
 
tupperware;4561554 said:
I think at some point you have to recognize that not every player can be 'turned around'. This OL has suffered from a talent problem and not a coaching problem.

The fact that when you look at the guys from 1996 threw the present to have solid careers elsewhere, does not indicate that we have a talent problem. It indicates that since Hudson Houch left the first time we have had a coaching problem.

Cast offs of ours such as Sam Young, Stephen Peterman, and Pat McQuistan are still in the league.
 
The problem has been compounded by the fact that you had Jerruh in championship mode for ever. He has not and isn't willing to let players come in and make mistakes to develop. You can't have all pros at every position, so you have to go cheap some where. When you go cheap, gotta be patient with the young guys.
 
"He's one of the smartest people I know and he's got the great ability to translate it to us lesser-minded folk," Mangold said. " . . . And his precision, the way he'll get on you if you are not taking the right step, if you're not putting your hand in the right place . . . It's a great discipline and a great way to coach us."

Fullback Tony Richardson said: "The way that he can explain things and teach the concepts, I think that's really what gives us the confidence to go out and get the job done."

Said reserve lineman Wayne Hunter: "There's a lot of coaches out there that just tell you to go block this guy and don't tell you how to do it. He's a real technical teacher. I'd say he's perfected our techniques since the day he got here."

Said Gruden: "There's nobody that works harder than this guy. I took a lot of pride getting to the office at 3 o'clock and working. This guy sets the tone in terms of work ethic. He looks at it, he studies it. He's detailed in a freakish manner . . . He's into 6-inch steps, brace your steps, hand placement, backside blocking, pad level. This guy is amazing in terms of fundamentals."
That's Callahan's staple. He records each individual drill in practice and shows it the next day in meetings, his way of honing the basics.

Turner said: "When stuff starts moving and stuff starts flying around and it's live bullets flying, you fall back to your fundamentals."

Still, Callahan doesn't run a dictatorship. He has no qualms about tweaking his scheme - as he did this season on some of the stunt blocking - and actually asks his players for input.

"A lot of coaches have too much pride to even do that," Hunter said. "Without any hesitation, he'll come to us and say, 'You know what? What I learned from Alan [Faneca] is this. We should do it this way. What I learned from Meat [Brandon Moore] is this and we should do it this way.' That's a real big thing about a coach."

Callahan typically is in the office by 5:30 a.m. and is one of the last to call it a night. He and Ryan work well together and Ryan lets Callahan mostly do his own thing without much intrusion.


http://www.newsday.com/sports/footb...oach-callahan-an-ultimate-linemaker-1.2395263
 
Callahan is a quality hire with a different scheme.


He hand picked two free aganet gaurds whom played for two of the best Olines in the AFC/NFC respectively.


Our Oline is ready to excel.
 
I wouldn't look for that "Star" performer as a indication of coaching greatness and would instead focus on the unit as a whole.

How much better or worse did the unit perform under the given coach?

Many of the cohesive offensive lines seem to have one or two well above average players and then three or four "workman" types that play better than they athleticism or skill-set would seem to indicate.

I'm not looking at Callahan to turn Livings in Larry Allen or Costa into Manigold.

Smith is the "Star" of this group and I would like to see everyone else play better than the average player at the position. I don't want to see Doug Free with a -11 PFF grade or Costa with a -9. If Callahan keeps the starting guys out of negative territory then good things will happen.
 
MichaelWinicki;4561613 said:
I wouldn't look for that "Star" performer as a indication of coaching greatness and would instead focus on the unit as a whole.

How much better or worse did the unit perform under the given coach?

Many of the cohesive offensive lines seem to have one or two well above average players and then three or four "workman" types that play better than they athleticism or skill-set would seem to indicate.

I'm not looking at Callahan to turn Livings in Larry Allen or Costa into Manigold.

Smith is the "Star" of this group and I would like to see everyone else play better than the average player at the position. I don't want to see Doug Free with a -11 PFF grade or Costa with a -9. If Callahan keeps the starting guys out of negative territory then good things will happen.

I agree. I will say though in Gruden comments is something this team needs

Said Gruden: "There's nobody that works harder than this guy. I took a lot of pride getting to the office at 3 o'clock and working. This guy sets the tone in terms of work ethic. He looks at it, he studies it. He's detailed in a freakish manner . . . He's into 6-inch steps, brace your steps, hand placement, backside blocking, pad level. This guy is amazing in terms of fundamentals."
That's Callahan's staple. He records each individual drill in practice and shows it the next day in meetings, his way of honing the basics.

To me this is a key in developing young player the attention to details and a coach who will continue to grill players until they get it right
 
DBOY3141;4561551 said:
Outside of Ferguson and Mangold who were #1 round picks and the top OL prospects at their positions coming out of college. Who has Callahan mentored to give him the title of OL guru?

Seems Garrett has put a lot of hope and faith in this guy to turn around the OL.

Great OL's coaches are not about the top OLmen that a coach has developed. The great players will be great players no matter who the OL coach is, in the end, their talent will make them great players.

What makes a great OL coach great is their ability to develop less than special players into good solid starters. Any OL is only as strong as its weakest link, and is only good when it works together as a unit, not as 5 individual players.
 
Doomsday101;4561617 said:
I agree. I will say though in Gruden comments is something this team needs

Said Gruden: "There's nobody that works harder than this guy. I took a lot of pride getting to the office at 3 o'clock and working. This guy sets the tone in terms of work ethic. He looks at it, he studies it. He's detailed in a freakish manner . . . He's into 6-inch steps, brace your steps, hand placement, backside blocking, pad level. This guy is amazing in terms of fundamentals."
That's Callahan's staple. He records each individual drill in practice and shows it the next day in meetings, his way of honing the basics.


To me this is a key in developing young player the attention to details and a coach who will continue to grill players until they get it right

I'm sorry, but this makes me horny. :eek::
 
Doomsday101;4561617 said:
I agree. I will say though in Gruden comments is something this team needs

Said Gruden: "There's nobody that works harder than this guy. I took a lot of pride getting to the office at 3 o'clock and working. This guy sets the tone in terms of work ethic. He looks at it, he studies it. He's detailed in a freakish manner . . . He's into 6-inch steps, brace your steps, hand placement, backside blocking, pad level. This guy is amazing in terms of fundamentals."
That's Callahan's staple. He records each individual drill in practice and shows it the next day in meetings, his way of honing the basics.

To me this is a key in developing young player the attention to details and a coach who will continue to grill players until they get it right

That's a good quote from Gruden.

I'm looking forward to how the young guys perform.
 
The team sought improvement in the offensive line's performance. They added and subtracted players from the equation. Additionally, they wanted new coaching and guidance to aid that improvement.

The team's final choice was Bill Callahan. If there were available, more qualified choices, I wouldn't mind reading some of those other names which could have been considered for the job.
 

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