Calling All Romo Haters

[Apollo Creed]

You all need to go get psychiatric evaluations.

Tony Romo has done more with less help than any of the QBs he's compared to.

He never gets a Brady pocket as I like to call it, where he can just go through his reads, it's always a blind side freedom spin followed by a perfect throw before getting absolutely blown up. Very rarely does he leave a game with his jersey clean. That's why he always seems to 'feel' pressure that isn't even there on some plays, he has absolutely no faith in the guys up front protecting him.

He never has had a smash mouth run game that was effective in the red zone and could convert on short yardage. Ask Percyhoward for those numbers, it's scary how bad we were in those areas. Lotta that has to do with the enemic OL, but if Romo doesn't put the ball in the end zone, no one else really seemed to. Hopefully Murray stays healthy because he would immediately become Romo's best friend, even moreso than a good defense because it would force teams to get outta that Tampa 2 and bracketing our 2 best receivers, thus letting us hit on more big plays vertically. Teams had absolutley no respect for our run game when Murray wasn't in there.

Romo has never had a Big Ben defense as I like to call it, where you can throw 2 INTs, fumble, and still win a game because your defense only gave up 13 points. Outside of a brief stretch in 09 in December, I can never really remember thinking, man our defense is really playing good football right now. Tony is always in shootouts and games where basically last person with the ball wins (and sans the icing of Arizona and the blocked kick against the G-Men) Romo as a QB was good enough for us to be 10-6. Just like he was a good enough QB to win a playoff game way back in 06, just not that good of a holder, hence the stigma. More truth.

So you all get my point, he has absolutely no help from a QBs two best friends - good running game & a solid defense. His receivers always seem to have drop issues, he's thrown to an old TO, washed up Terry Glenn, Roy fricken Williams, Sam Hurd, Kevin Ogletree, Jesse Holley, Patrick Crayton, etc etc and still gotten it done, every year.

I won't lie that currently he has a hall of fame TE, 2 pro bowl caliber WRs, and a pair of really good tackles, but last year was another wasted year with a Super Bowl caliber QB because 52 other guys, the coaching staff, and the front office dropped the ball thinking guys like Phil Costa and Alan Ball can play ball in this league. I can blame Romo single handedly for the Lions loss, but that's about it, so when you step back and look at how valuable he truly is, and what he does despite the circus and the lack of integral talent around him - he truly is a special dynamic player that can bring us a Super Bowl.

You don't have a top 5 QB rating all time if you aren't a good QB, it's not an accident, you're surrounded by hall of famers for a reason.

That's why when someone says, man we need to get rid of Romo, I just walk away - because they have no idea how hard it truly was to find a quarterback that could win again after Troy, and they really don't understand the problems in Dallas are between the tackles, in the secondary, and in a luxury box looking like that the guy from Tales from the crypt - definitely not Tony Romo.

So be thankful, let's enjoy the last 5+ years of his career hopefully - because God knows if I wanna ever go through years with guys like Leafhensonstoener Testacarterhutchinson.

And think about how hard it is to find a QB, the Skins just mortgaged their future for a half ***** Cam Newton, a guy that was playing WR a couple years ago is gonna get drafted in the top 10.

So remember QBs don't grow on trees, especially not ones with 96.9 career QB ratings (right ahead of hall of famer Steve Young).

The haters usual rebuttle, is - yeah but he doesn't get it done in the 4th quarter, well, you're wrong again.

Last year in the 4th quarter he had a QBR of 103.6 right behind eventual Super Bowl champion Eli Manning and Almighty Aaron Rodgers. Just right ahead of Brady and Brees. You don't do that by accident.

The defense rests your honor, you guys need to start being thankful and start hoping this team gets him some help before his window closes.

 

[Frozen700]

Romo haters, go find your nearest bridge, and do us all a favor.

 

[DBOY3141]

If Romo were not QB of the Cowboys, he would not receive half the grief he gets from the media.

He's a good QB that with enough talent around him can take a team to the SB and win.

This team is not very good right now to win a SB....period. We are in year 2 of a 3 year plan of "rebuilding" this wreck of a team.

Romo is not the problem.

 

[baj1dallas]

Well I can somewhat seen their point - you can't argue that he's been perfect, he's made a couple of big mistakes in big games, ie Jets, Seattle, etc.

Like it or not, Cowboys fans have very high standards.

 

[Arch Stanton]

Props AC.

 

[Frozen700]

Well I can somewhat seen their point - you can't argue that he's been perfect, he's made a couple of big mistakes in big games, ie Jets, Seattle, etc.

Like it or not, Cowboys fans have very high standards.

try spoiled, Brat like attitudes

 

[Apollo Creed]

try spoiled, Brat like attitudes

I wish they'd hold our centers, guards, corners, safeties, ends, coaches, and general managers to the same standards.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I agree—and this should be the consensus—but your wasting your time. Romo haters will remain Romo haters no matter how you try to convince them. At least some of them try to back-up their statements; there is nothing worse than fan of other teams talking about Romo.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Well I can somewhat seen their point - you can't argue that he's been perfect, he's made a couple of big mistakes in big games, ie Jets, Seattle, etc.

Like it or not, Cowboys fans have very high standards.

If he had help like Big Ben or Eli has from his defense, fricken Jets don't almost hang 30 on you, the Lions just don't throw up random balls for TDs, and we win both of those games.

Brady had a garbage defense, but his line and running game was twice as good as ours - so at least he had something to lean against.

Romo had none of those, and he's gonna continue to run for his life if we don't sure up this line. We've already broken his pinky, ribs, collarbone, hand, and punctured his lung.

I know it's a tough league but the guy takes some serious shots, more than most QBs, and he keeps getting right back up. Dudes a winner that deserves a chance to win a title.

 

[Clove]

Yeah, I'm here. Can I help you?

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I think the vast majority of the Romo haters have pretty much quieted down and changed their attitude.

There aren't that many who just flat out don't like him and don't think he can win a championship and that's fine. Players aren't going to have everyone behind them. That's just the way it goes.

 

[Trendnet]

You all need to go get psychiatric evaluations.

Tony Romo has done more with less help than any of the QBs he's compared to.

He never gets a Brady pocket as I like to call it, where he can just go through his reads, it's always a blind side freedom spin followed by a perfect throw before getting absolutely blown up. Very rarely does he leave a game with his jersey clean. That's why he always seems to 'feel' pressure that isn't even there on some plays, he has absolutely no faith in the guys up front protecting him.

He never has had a smash mouth run game that was effective in the red zone and could convert on short yardage. Ask Percyhoward for those numbers, it's scary how bad we were in those areas. Lotta that has to do with the enemic OL, but if Romo doesn't put the ball in the end zone, no one else really seemed to. Hopefully Murray stays healthy because he would immediately become Romo's best friend, even moreso than a good defense because it would force teams to get outta that Tampa 2 and bracketing our 2 best receivers, thus letting us hit on more big plays vertically. Teams had absolutley no respect for our run game when Murray wasn't in there.

Romo has never had a Big Ben defense as I like to call it, where you can throw 2 INTs, fumble, and still win a game because your defense only gave up 13 points. Outside of a brief stretch in 09 in December, I can never really remember thinking, man our defense is really playing good football right now. Tony is always in shootouts and games where basically last person with the ball wins (and sans the icing of Arizona and the blocked kick against the G-Men) Romo as a QB was good enough for us to be 10-6. Just like he was a good enough QB to win a playoff game way back in 06, just not that good of a holder, hence the stigma. More truth.

So you all get my point, he has absolutely no help from a QBs two best friends - good running game & a solid defense. His receivers always seem to have drop issues, he's thrown to an old TO, washed up Terry Glenn, Roy fricken Williams, Sam Hurd, Kevin Ogletree, Jesse Holley, Patrick Crayton, etc etc and still gotten it done, every year.

I won't lie that currently he has a hall of fame TE, 2 pro bowl caliber WRs, and a pair of really good tackles, but last year was another wasted year with a Super Bowl caliber QB because 52 other guys, the coaching staff, and the front office dropped the ball thinking guys like Phil Costa and Alan Ball can play ball in this league. I can blame Romo single handedly for the Lions loss, but that's about it, so when you step back and look at how valuable he truly is, and what he does despite the circus and the lack of integral talent around him - he truly is a special dynamic player that can bring us a Super Bowl.

You don't have a top 5 QB rating all time if you aren't a good QB, it's not an accident, you're surrounded by hall of famers for a reason.

That's why when someone says, man we need to get rid of Romo, I just walk away - because they have no idea how hard it truly was to find a quarterback that could win again after Troy, and they really don't understand the problems in Dallas are between the tackles, in the secondary, and in a luxury box looking like that the guy from Tales from the crypt - definitely not Tony Romo.

So be thankful, let's enjoy the last 5+ years of his career hopefully - because God knows if I wanna ever go through years with guys like Leafhensonstoener Testacarterhutchinson.

And think about how hard it is to find a QB, the Skins just mortgaged their future for a half ***** Cam Newton, a guy that was playing WR a couple years ago is gonna get drafted in the top 10.

So remember QBs don't grow on trees, especially not ones with 96.9 career QB ratings (right ahead of hall of famer Steve Young).

The haters usual rebuttle, is - yeah but he doesn't get it done in the 4th quarter, well, you're wrong again.

Last year in the 4th quarter he had a QBR of 103.6 right behind eventual Super Bowl champion Eli Manning and Almighty Aaron Rodgers. Just right ahead of Brady and Brees. You don't do that by accident.

The defense rests your honor, you guys need to start being thankful and start hoping this team gets him some help before his window closes.

Romo has never won a superbowl.

That's why I assert Jeff Hostetler is indeed better than Dan Fouts.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yeah, I'm here. Can I help you?

Sure.

Can you name 8 current QBs better than Tony Romo?

And can you comfortably say that he has had the help of a solid running game and a good defense at any point during his career here in Dallas?

 

[Denim Chicken]

Yeah, I'm here. Can I help you?

Yes, see post #2. J/K

 

[Apollo Creed]

Yes, see post #2. J/K

I kinda like your mock, just put Ingram in the 1st, and get the other WR from Arkansas and I think we'd be in pretty good shape. Joe Adams is a beast, really hope we can get him in the 4th. Would immediately improve our kick/punt return game.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I kinda like your mock, just put Ingram in the 1st, and get the other WR from Arkansas and I think we'd be in pretty good shape. Joe Adams is a beast, really hope we can get him in the 4th. Would immediately improve our kick/punt return game.

I got a thing for Cox, lol.

You talking about drafting two WRs or replacing Wright?

 

[Brian_C82]

And can you comfortably say that he has had the help of a solid running game and a good defense at any point during his career here in Dallas?

Revisionist history at its finest.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I got a thing for Cox, lol.

You talking about drafting two WRs or replacing Wright?

Lol, no homo? Ingram's just so athletic, I think him coming opposite Ware would really collapse pockets. He's faster than a lot of running backs, is really stout against the run, and could cover if he ever had to drop back.

And I meant replacing Wright. Joe Adams is one of my pet cats, dude has some serious moves, is awesome in space, and would really be a quick slot option that teams would have to respect - thus opening things up vertically for Bryant and Austin, and making Witten even more of a monster between the hashes.

I'm sure Jerry is aware of him, he's a fellow Arkansas alum - but I think some team is gonna take him in the 3rd.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Revisionist history at its finest.

Outside of one month in 2009 when has this defense ever given the offense short fields or forced any turnovers. Bailed the offense out by making a play, forcing a fumble, hell a pick 6 here or there. Barely ever, Sean Lee made more of those plays last year by himself than our secondary did for several seasons.

And outside of a couple games when Murray took over, and during the Barbarian's year and a half run as the better option than Julius Jones - when has Tony Romo ever had a running game?

Nothing but the facts bro.

 

[KJJ]

There's a love/hate with Romo amongst many Cowboy fans you see it on this board after every good and bad game he has. When he plays great everyone loves him so much so that some fans get carried away claiming he's the best QB in the NFL. When he suffers one of his meltdowns the Romo hate threads start flooding the board. The reality is Tony Romo is a very good QB who's clearly the best QB the Cowboys have had since Troy Aikman but until he has Dec/Jan success and playoff success he's going to continue receiving a lot of grief. Romo is as good as it gets from Sept to Nov just look at his winning percentage and career numbers during those months. There's not a QB in the league who's been better than Romo in Nov since 06.

Romo's winning percentage and numbers are off the charts in Nov but everything starts coming apart once the calendar changes to Dec. The Cowboys have lost more games than they've won under Romo in Dec/Jan and one of the main reasons for that is Romo has more turnovers than TD's during that time. His passer rating and completion percentage isn't nearly as high in Dec/Jan as it is in Sept thru Nov. He has the same players around him in Nov that he has around him in Dec but the difference in his numbers are night and day. Although Romo is a very good QB there's been leadership issues with him and he's been unable to make the players around him better when it really matters like some of the elite QB's in the league. Some fans here are in denial about it but it's a fact! Too many Cowboy fans judge Romo from Sept-Nov and wear blinders to his Dec/Jan performances and dismal 1-3 playoff record.

No one is saying Romo is the only reason the Cowboys haven't had success in Dec/Jan but his numbers and TD to turnover ratio indicate without any question he's been part of the reason the team keeps stumbling down the stretch. This wasn't the case in 2011 it was mainly the defense that killed the Cowboys season but it has been the case in previous seasons with Romo. He's been plagued with ill-timed turnovers and multiple turnovers in the games that matter most and if some fans choose to be in denial over it choosing to put the blame solely on the team around Romo then so be it. The fact is Romo has had some very talented teams around him for most of his career but some fans (apologists) try to spin that he's been a victim of talentless teams throughout his career like Archie Manning.