Can an Effective Running Attack make the Difference in a WR Favored NFL !?

[Phoenix-Talon]

Haven't seen too much from the Cowboys since One of my heroes played ...in my personal (non-Cowboy fan) opinion there hasn't been a running back the equivalent of Tony Dorsett. Wouldn't say that JJ or any of the existing backs even come close to Emmit Smith.

Now the Commanders seem to have potential to break plays on the ground In the likes of Portis. The Giants have Tiki Barber who is a play-maker and can make yards on his on effort.

We all know that a good running attack can spread the field and create some pass plays in the flat. That said, can a ground game dominate like in the days of Dorsett and Sweetness?

And what about the Eagles, our running attack has been non-existent for many years. Could a new ground attack be the missing formula for the Eagles to re-open that proverbial window that so many seem to think has closed?

As we speak, Josh Parry and Thomas Tapeah are vying for the privilege to run FB, along with RBs Westbrook and Moats. How effective would a full blown Eagles ground game be. By the way, healthy or otherwise, don't overlook a possible 3rd FB ...

http://www.eaglesendzone.com/download/Eagles%20Video%20Clips/2003%20Season/Week%2014%20-%20Cowboys%20@%20Eagles/Week%2014%20'03%20-%20Buckhalter%20TD.wmv


http://www.eaglesendzone.com/download/Eagles%20Video%20Clips/2003%20Season/Week%206%20-%20Eagles%20Vs.%20Dallas/Week%206%20-%20'03%20-%20Buckhalter%20TD.wmv

What say you all?

 

[cobra]

Can an Effective Running Attack make the Difference in a WR Favored NFL !?

Of course.

With regards to the Eagles?

Not a chance.

Your team is going to finish last in the division. Sorry.

 

[MONT17]

I dont get the Iggs OL!!! they run a WCO but they have OL that rivals the OLD COWBOYS when DERREK KENNARD used to play!!!


I think the Iggs are setting up the OL to draft a POWER BACK in the near future... Reid might be catching on to the fact that the NFC east has changed!!! he owned the NFC east but everyone knows that wasnt the NFC EAST with "coach" Jones and Snyder running things!!!

Reid knows the Iggs cant win like they won in the past and his drafting on the OL and DL proves that he gets it!!!


the NFC EAST is back to POWER FOOTBALL...

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Can an Effective Running Attack make the Difference in a WR Favored NFL !?

Of course.

With regards to the Eagles?

Not a chance.

Your team is going to finish last in the division. Sorry.

Apprerciate your perspective. If you're sorry because you made a weak excuse to justify a lame claim, I accept that sorry unjustified nonsense. There's no foundation to your accusations. You should be sorry!

You haven't defended anything about the Cowboys RB situation, you've accepted that your DL cannot stop Portis or Barber ...you just focused in on the Eagles non-existent ground game for the sake of a weak flame.

You should be sorry!

 

[burmafrd]

Our healthy, inexperienced and inexperienced 3-4 D did a pretty good job most of the year. We should be better this year. The BIrds had no running game last year- see little hope for one this year.

 

[NorTex]

Last time I checked, the Superbowl Champs were an effective running attack team...their QB had a passer rating of 22 and they won the freakin Superbowl.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Haven't seen too much from the Cowboys since One of my heroes played ...in my personal (non-Cowboy fan) opinion there hasn't been a running back the equivalent of Tony Dorsett. Wouldn't say that JJ or any of the existing backs even come close to Emmit Smith.

Now the Commanders seem to have potential to break plays on the ground In the likes of Portis. The Giants have Tiki Barber who is a play-maker and can make yards on his on effort.

We all know that a good running attack can spread the field and create some pass plays in the flat. That said, can a ground game dominate like in the days of Dorsett and Sweetness?

And what about the Eagles, our running attack has been non-existent for many years. Could a new ground attack be the missing formula for the Eagles to re-open that proverbial window that so many seem to think has closed?

As we speak, Josh Parry and Thomas Tapeah are vying for the privilege to run FB, along with RBs Westbrook and Moats. How effective would a full blown Eagles ground game be. By the way, healthy or otherwise, don't overlook a possible 3rd FB ...

http://www.eaglesendzone.com/download/Eagles%20Video%20Clips/2003%20Season/Week%2014%20-%20Cowboys%20@%20Eagles/Week%2014%20'03%20-%20Buckhalter%20TD.wmv


http://www.eaglesendzone.com/download/Eagles%20Video%20Clips/2003%20Season/Week%206%20-%20Eagles%20Vs.%20Dallas/Week%206%20-%20'03%20-%20Buckhalter%20TD.wmv

What say you all?

Philadelphia has returned to their natural, rightful place: Bottom feeder in the NFC East

I suggest you accept it and move on, maybe take up baseball or toothless Candian Icecapades

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Philadelphia has returned to their natural, rightful place: Bottom feeder in the NFC East

I suggest you accept it and move on, maybe take up baseball or toothless Candian Icecapades

I see that pain in your head has dissipated just long enough for you to make a bad judgement post ...actually I expected more from you heavyhitta31; I thought you've made some pretty inteligent posts in your day. I accept that I was wrong about you.

You know there's much more than an issue about your feelings toward Eagle fans that's underlying. Don't you have a serious opinion left in you?!

 

[The30YardSlant]

I see that pain in your head has dissipated just long enough for you to make a bad judgement post ...actually I expected more from you heavyhitta31; I thought you've made some pretty inteligent posts in your day. I accept that I was wrong about you.

You know there's much more than an issue about your feelings toward Eagle fans that's underlying. Don't you have a serious opinion left in you?!

My serious, truthful opinion:

Philadelphia finishes 8-8 at best

I've already stated why on more than one occasion

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

PT

Look at the Giants and Commanders who made the playoffs because Tiki Barber and Clinton Portis, respectively, played better than the Cowboys and Eagles RBs.

As for the Eagles, Westbrook may muster up one more great year but aren't his best days likely behind him; or not? As for the Cowboys, J. Jones may muster up a great year because aren't his best days likely ahead of him; or not?

In other words - There are too many question marks at RB for Dallas and the Eagles. Having said that, I think Dallas and Philly's passing games have far greater ability than the Skins and Giants; these two teams passing games are made to look better by their good running games. evidence is in the playoffs when their passing offenses fizzled and they became one-dimensional. But if Dallas and Philly can get their running games on track then the divisional see-saw will swang back in their favor in 2006, and the NFC-East may make some noise in the playoffs.

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[Phoenix-Talon]

My serious, truthful opinion:

Philadelphia finishes 8-8 at best

I've already stated why on more than one occasion

That's a start ...now explaiN why ...wait; nevermind, you've done it so many times before already.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

PT

Look at the Giants and Commanders who made the playoffs because Tiki Barber and Clinton Portis, respectively, played better than the Cowboys and Eagles RBs.

As for the Eagles, Westbrook may muster up one more great year but aren't his best days likely behind him; or not? As for the Cowboys, J. Jones may muster up a great year because aren't his best days likely ahead of him; or not?

In other words - There are too many question marks at RB for Dallas and the Eagles. Having said that, I think Dallas and Philly's passing games have far greater ability than the Skins and Giants; these two teams passing games are made to look better by their good running games. evidence is in the playoffs when their passing offenses fizzled and they became one-dimensional. But if Dallas and Philly can get their running games on track then the divisional see-saw will swang back in their favor in 2006, and the NFC-East may make some noise in the playoffs.**

Actually, I concur with most of what you're saying.

 

[The30YardSlant]

That's a start ...now explaiN why ...wait; nevermind, you've done it so many times before already.

If it will get you to drop this schtick, I'll explain it one more time for the cheap seats:

Philly has the worst set of WRs in the division, the conference, and possibly the league. I don't care how good McNabb is (BTW, Limbaugh had a point, he is terribly overrated) he will not be able to compensate for the shear lack of talent at WR. You thought pre-TO was bad? Just wait until your leading receiver catches 45 passes for 3 TDs

Brian Westbrook is what they call in college an "athlete". He has many skills but doesnt have a true position. He can't carry it 25 times a game, he will break down by week 5. Place that with Andy Reid's issues with this thing called a running play, and you get a very lifeless rushing attack.

Outside of Kearse, their D-Line doesnt scare me. At all.

Their LBs are subpar, easily the least talented in the division.

Philly's corners had a knack for giving up the big play, especially in division games last year. That MUST change with 2 of the 5 best WRs in the game in the division.

Andy Reid is a choker, plain and simple.

 

[dargonking999]

makes you wonder just how bad the rest of the NFC sucked, for the them to win so much eh?

 

[dwmyers]

And what about the Eagles, our running attack has been non-existent for many years. Could a new ground attack be the missing formula for the Eagles to re-open that proverbial window that so many seem to think has closed??

Yes, it could. The Eagles never bothered to run and it made them, at the highest levels, easy to game plan for.

I'm not sure HOW it could happen, but one scenario would be that Westbrook remains exceptionally healthy and does an imitation of Joe Morris in 1986.

David.

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Actually, I concur with most of what you're saying.

Sow where do you disagree - just curious?

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[Phoenix-Talon]

... I'll explain it one more time for the cheap seats:

What a "guy" ...!

Philly has the worst set of WRs in the division, the conference, and possibly the league. I don't care how good McNabb is (BTW, Limbaugh had a point, he is terribly overrated) he will not be able to compensate for the shear lack of talent at WR.

Limbaugh ...as in Rush Limbaugh? That's not the guy who was recently placed into a drug rehab center because of his "self-medications?" Didn't know he was one of your heroes. Yeah ...he's really got sports credentials!
Here. this may help you focus...

So "Rush" is the source of all of your football saavy! That said, there's no need for my rebuttal! We're doomed! I'm sure Rush loves TO! Ask him next time you speak with him.

Brian Westbrook is what they call in college an "athlete".

They pretty much call an athlete an athlete everywhere ...good start!

He (B-West) has many skills but doesnt have a true position.

Wait ...you're criticizing his ability to be so versatile!?

He can't carry it 25 times a game, he will break down by week 5. Place that with Andy Reid's issues with this thing called a running play, and you get a very lifeless rushing attack.

Thanks for that tip, but I think our new offensive coordinator will have something to do with that decision ...btw, that sounds like a Job for Tapeh,
Parry, or perhaps even Buckhalter.

Outside of Kearse, their D-Line doesnt scare me. At all.

That attitudeof yours may have just been the type of comment that Bunkley, Cole, and Howard need to get "fired-up!" Now with Shawn Barber back playing some weak side and some nickel, you get another guy who's a good blitzer. Bunkley is a powerhousde that just pushes a tackle back into the QB. I see 50 sacks this year from the defense. We had 47 in 2004. Listen ...did you hear that? i could have sworn I heard someone say the name Dawkins and Trotter. Maybe Not!

Philly's corners had a knack for giving up the big play, especially in division games last year. That MUST change with 2 of the 5 best WRs in the game in the division.

I'm not trying to shoot down everything you're saying Because you do have a play-maker in TO ...but that's all contingent upon Bledsoe Being able to deliver under extreme pressure.

Andy Reid is a choker, plain and simple.

Now that was just plain mean of you to say !

You have Not convinced me, in fact, you helped make my day ...if that's all you've got! You need to go talk to Rush again!

 

[Jarv]

I hate threads like the 1st page of this thread...When they are soooo wide you have to scroll back and forth to read line by line.

 

[lspain1]

Well PT you haven't gotten much of anything but abuse from this thread. I'll chime in briefly (I'm late for work).

For the Cowboys, we have not had the one thing a good running attack requires in the NFL...a decent offensive line. We haven't had one for many years. Last years line is an excellent case in point. While the Cowboys had some success berfore Adams went down, we were not running the ball effectively. Our line, for a number of reasons from injury to age, lacked the athleticism necessary to run the ball effectively. Based upon our off season additions and the strengths of a healthy Julius Jones (a big if I know), the Cowboys will not go to a power running game this year either IMO.

We all know how much Joe Gibbs likes power football. I'll note here that the Commanders offense last year was actually pretty balanced and was not a 'power' attack. However, Portis formed the core of a running attack that always had to be respected. I think most teams last year played the Commanders to make Brunnell beat them and not Portis. Brunnell was able to accomplish that more times than not and the Rewdskins went to the playoffs.

The NY Giants last year used Barber as a power back. They really were the power team in the NFC East last year. Oppenents in the NFC East basically played them to make Manning beat them and not let Tiki have his game. Sometimes that worked and sometimes it didn't. If Manning makes further improvement this year, I believe the Giants will begin to sport a balanced attack rather than a power attack.

I left the Eagles for last because they are so different than the rest of the division. They use the WCO and they have a quarterback who is mobile and ad-libs well. The Cowboys defense IMO is designed to stop McNabb. The rest of the division will have the same game plan even if they don't match up quite as well. With Terrell Owens, teams taking away the short routes were often burned deep. Without him, teams will try to take away the short passing routes and what do the Eagles do then? Westbrook is an excellent back (and an exciting player) but conventional wisdom says he is too small (and subject to injury) to handle the constant pounding required of a run first offense. Without that kind of threat (or a deep passing threat), the Eagles offense loses its 'balance' and becomes vulnerable.

For the Eagles and Cowboys, a combination of philosophy and personnel will lead them to pass first attacks this season. The Cowboys have a chance to become more 'balanced' if the o-line gels and Julius Jones stays healthy. I'm not sure what the Eagles are trying to do and I'd be interested in your spin on Andy Ried's plans for this season. The Commanders searched for weapons to help the passing attack in the off-season and I believe will remain a balanced offensive team. The Giants, IMO, are counting on Manning to continue to improve and make teams pay that stack 8 in the box.

 

[juck]

Apprerciate your perspective. If you're sorry because you made a weak excuse to justify a lame claim, I accept that sorry unjustified nonsense. There's no foundation to your accusations. You should be sorry!

You haven't defended anything about the Cowboys RB situation, you've accepted that your DL cannot stop Portis or Barber ...you just focused in on the Eagles non-existent ground game for the sake of a weak flame.

You should be sorry!

Please tell me why u waste ur time on a cowboys board.You must be really bored,damn.