Can Carter be an OLB possibility?

[Risen Star]

I asked this over at the news section but it got lost in the shuffle.

This is merely food for thought. Another option on the table. This year's draft will be rich at ILB. Do you think it's possible that the Cowboys find themselves with ILB at the very top of their board in the 1st or 2nd round this April and go BPA. Then shift Carter to OLB to replace Spencer?

I realize he's a bit undersized right now but I don't think he'd be much smaller than Spencer after an offseason with the strength coach.

It would seem to me that would showcase Carter's strengths a little more and make his physicality less of an issue.

He's an elite cover guy. He's quick and fast. I want that guy on the edge, not in the middle.

Ware......Lee.......Rookie........Carter

Your 2012 starting LBs.

 

[dargonking999]

So now weve gone from Butler being the heir apparent to Carter?

 

[Risen Star]

So now weve gone from Butler being the heir apparent to Carter?

I never had Butler as the heir apparent.

 

[DFWJC]

I like the idea of Ware..Lee..Carter..Butler.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I like the idea of Ware..Lee..Carter..Butler.

I like the idea of: Ware - Lee - Carter - USPS.

 

[LeonDixson]

I like the idea of: Ware - Lee - Carter - USPS.

From the Arizona office? I see what you did there. I think

 

[TwentyOne]

It would seem to me that would showcase Carter's strengths a little more and make his physicality less of an issue.

He's an elite cover guy. He's quick and fast. I want that guy on the edge, not in the middle.

So you want to replace Spencer because of what ? The biggest critics Spencer is getting is because he hasn't many sacks.

Now you want to put an "elite cover guy" in a spot where he has to play especially against the run (Spencers the strong side guy) and rushes the passer ? That makes little sense to me. Or do you want him to cover TEs and therfore lose him for the pass rush ? Or do you want him to bulk up (say 10-15 pounds) so he can play the run but make him lose his quickness and cover ability ?

Then in a 3-4 afaik the MLBs are usually smaller and more agile then the OLB. They have more cover responsibilities and should be quick. To me Carter (i havent seen him play at an elite level) seems to be a good fit inside.

 

[texbumthelife]

Now you want to put an "elite cover guy" in a spot where he has to play especially against the run (Spencers the strong side guy) and rushes the passer ?

Talk about making no sense...

 

[speedkilz88]

I like the idea of Ware..Lee..Carter..Butler.

It's Ware..Carter..Lee..Spencer.

Carter is the fast, chase LB on the weakside. Lee can play both for now but he's more suited to play the MLB spot due to his instincts at diagnosing the plays.

 

[Risen Star]

So you want to replace Spencer because of what ? The biggest critics Spencer is getting is because he hasn't many sacks.

Now you want to put an "elite cover guy" in a spot where he has to play especially against the run (Spencers the strong side guy) and rushes the passer ? That makes little sense to me. Or do you want him to cover TEs and therfore lose him for the pass rush ?

Then in a 3-4 afaik the MLBs are usually smaller and more agile then the OLB. They have more cover responsibilities and should be quick. To me Carter (i havent seen him play at an elite level) seems to be a good fit inside.

I probably do want to replace Spencer. Why? Because he can't get to the QB. If that continues this year, I say smell ya later. We'll find someone who can.

I'd prefer Carter outside because he isn't physical, so I want to keep him away from the trash inside if I can help it and I think he can really do well covering backs and tight ends. He'll cover more ground free of the trash at OLB.

Now he would also have to be able to get to the QB too. By no means am I claiming he'd be a complete success there. Just that it might be an option worth considering and these fans who say we can't possibly draft another ILB high in the draft this year should consider this as an option.

It's all about getting your best players on the field. Your head coach says that. He also says he believes in taking the best player in the draft. Well, honoring those two statements, here's a scenario where Bruce Carter might end up your starting OLB next year.

 

[TwentyOne]

Talk about making no sense...

In the 3-4 the OLB often has to take on the OT against the run. Or he is double teamed by the OT an TE. The MLBs have to deal with FB or guards. So to say with single blockers an those are not as heavy.

 

[5Stars]

I like the idea of: Ware - Lee - Carter - USPS.

:laugh1:

(stupid cowboy fans)


I see you...

 

[TwentyOne]

I'd prefer Carter outside because he isn't physical, so I want to keep him away from the trash inside if I can help it and I think he can really do well covering backs and tight ends. He'll cover more ground free of the trash at OLB.

Now he would also have to be able to get to the QB too. By no means am I claiming he'd be a complete success there. Just that it might be an option worth considering and these fans who say we can't possibly draft another ILB high in the draft this year should consider this as an option.

My point was that in our scheme the SLB (which is Spencer usually) has a harder job and has mor traffic on his side then the MLBs. As i wrote the OLBs in a 3-4 are usually bigger then the MLBs.

Just compare ours:

OLBs: Ware 260. Spencer 257
MLBs: Lee 245, James 246.

In a 4-3 System its usually different. There the MLB is stronger then the outside guys. But not in a 3-4 or the scheme that rob Ryan plays (whatever you will call it)

 

[jobberone]

People need to know what duties the SOLB and the WILB have.

 

[baj1dallas]

Makes no sense. OLB needs to be able to take on linemen. This is a 3-4 not a 4-3.

 

[jjktkk]

People need to know what duties the SOLB and the WILB have.

I atribute these youngsters coming up with these ideas to: If I can imagine it, then its definitely doable.

 

[AsthmaField]

People need to know what duties the SOLB and the WILB have.

Apparently, the WOLB rushes the passer and the SOLB sends in the mail.

When I said Spencer was going to go 'postal'... that isn't what I had in mind.

 

[5Stars]

I atribute these youngsters coming up with these ideas to: If I can imagine it, then its definitely doable.

That applies to not only football, but life also.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I like the idea of Ware..Lee..Carter..Butler.

This!

 

[CowboyStar88]

I probably do want to replace Spencer. Why? Because he can't get to the QB. If that continues this year, I say smell ya later. We'll find someone who can.

I'd prefer Carter outside because he isn't physical, so I want to keep him away from the trash inside if I can help it and I think he can really do well covering backs and tight ends. He'll cover more ground free of the trash at OLB.

Now he would also have to be able to get to the QB too. By no means am I claiming he'd be a complete success there. Just that it might be an option worth considering and these fans who say we can't possibly draft another ILB high in the draft this year should consider this as an option.

It's all about getting your best players on the field. Your head coach says that. He also says he believes in taking the best player in the draft. Well, honoring those two statements, here's a scenario where Bruce Carter might end up your starting OLB next year.

Since when is Carter not physical? Are you sure about that?