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Cowboys’ Championship Quest: Can Dallas Get To The Super Bowl With A Strong Offense And Mid-level Defense?

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...6-with-a-strong-offense-and-mid-level-defense


“Defense wins championships.” It’s an iconic phrase that’s been seared into our collective football consciousness for decades. But is it true? Not really, as it turns out.

Sure, great defensive teams have won plenty of Super Bowls. But plenty of great offensive teams without great defenses have won Super Bowls as well.

In this article, written just prior to last year’s Super Bowl between the Panthers and Broncos, Freakanomics writers Jon Wertheim and Sam Sommers essentially debunk the idea that top defensive play is necessary to Super Bowl success.

What we found: when it comes to winning championships – or winning in general, for that matter – defense and offense carry uncannily similar weight. Among the 49 NFL Super Bowls, the better defensive team, measured by points allowed that season, has won 30 times. The better offensive team has won 25 times. It’s a slight edge to defense, but it’s a pretty close call, and not different from random chance. The Super Bowl champ has been a top-five defensive team during the regular season on 31 occasions. How many times was the Super Bowl champ ranked among the top five in offense? 27. Damn near even.

Click here for a visual depiction of how Super Bowl teams have ranked on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. Again, it’s almost even. This NFL Network video comes to the same conclusion.

Doing my own unscientific research, I decided to look at the 20 Super Bowl matchups since the Dallas Cowboys faced off against the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XXX and won 27-17. (The MVP of that game was cornerback Larry Brown, who intercepted two passes that turned the game in Dallas’s favor, so maybe defense does matter?)

That’s 20 matchups, 40 teams, each with its own offensive and defensive rankings on the season. I looked at points scored and points allowed rankings, rather than yards gained or allowed, because points win games. What I found was:


  • 20 teams - 50% - had a higher offensive ranking than a defensive one on the season.
  • 10 teams - 25% - had defenses ranked 10th in the NFL or lower.
  • Eight teams - 20% - had defenses ranked 15th or lower.
  • Two teams ranked 15th, one each ranked 17th, 20th, 22nd, 23rd, 25th, and 28th.
Were those defensively-challenged teams always paired with top offenses? Usually, but not always. These are some of the splits of Super Bowl teams over the last 20 seasons with the first half of these splits the offensive ranking of the team, and the second half the defensive ranking: 1/22 (Denver 2013), 10/12 (Baltimore 2012), 9/25 (Giants 2011), 3/15 (Patriots 2011), 1/20 (New Orleans 2009), 3/28 (Arizona 2008), 14/17 (Giants 2007), 2/23 (Indy 2006), 15/10 (Carolina 2003), and 7/15 (Tennessee 1999).

In these last 20 years, Dallas has had three teams that fit these criteria: 2006 4/20, 2007 2/13, and 2014 5/15. The team didn’t make the Super Bowl, but you can easily spin out scenarios where they could have, if a play here or there had turned out differently. Certainly the 2007 and 2014 teams were strong enough to make the NFC Championship game, and would have been favored in 2007 had they gotten there.

Is there any reason to think the Dallas Cowboys have no chance to contend this season? The team’s defensive ranking fell from 15th in 2014 to 16th in 2015, but given the inept offense and lack of turnovers, there was so much more pressure on that unit than there is likely to be this year, so you’d have to consider it a step forward last year.

Can the defense make additional progress in 2016? The major negatives are the loss of Greg Hardy (perhaps not such a negative, as no other team was willing to take on his baggage) and Rolando McClain, and the suspensions of Demarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory. On the plus side, Cedric Thornton was added inside, Terrell McClain has returned, Tyrone Crawford is healthy, Orlando Scandrick is back, and Byron Jones is now the free safety. With the potential for improvement from lots of young players, and a certain bounce back in the turnover department, it’s not hard to see Dallas ranking in the middle of NFL defenses again, with the chance to do slightly better.

On offense, so much depends on the play of Dak Prescott, and it’s so difficult to project regular season performance for rookies off preseason stats, that we’ll have to wait and see before we know how good the offense might be. The same will be true when Romo returns, given his recent spate of injuries and inability to string healthy and productive games together over the last two years. But whether we know or not, it’s certainly easy to be excited about the potential at quarterback.

With an unmatched offensive line, what could be the strongest running game in the NFL, a deep set of receivers, and strong special teams play, why can’t Dallas contend for a championship in 2016? The defense may not help that cause, but the evidence demonstrates it’s possible to win a championship with a mid-pack defense.

America’s Team faces uphill odds making the Super Bowl this year, but its defensive ranking isn’t going to keep the team from having a chance.
 

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If we can force turnovers, we can contend. If we can score points, it'll make that job much easier.

The Saints and Packers come to mind of recent teams that didn't have very good defenses but got a Lombardi by scoring points and forcing turnovers.
 

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I think the defense will have to step up in a major way to win it all.
Lets hope they do.
 

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Great players win championships.

Can they: read the sig
 
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If we can force turnovers, we can contend. If we can score points, it'll make that job much easier.

The Saints and Packers come to mind of recent teams that didn't have very good defenses but got a Lombardi by scoring points and forcing turnovers.

I agree, D needs lots of takeaways and TDs. But I'd still rather have a pass rush too, just makes the road to SB much easier.
 

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No, no, and no. It's SB talk like this that makes us the laughing stock of the NFL every year. This thread should be locked right now and reopened about 4 months from now if still relevant.
 

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how about they try winning some games first before the superbowl talk starts it takes a team with all parts of it to get to the playoffs and win a championship
 

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No, no, and no. It's SB talk like this that makes us the laughing stock of the NFL every year. This thread should be locked right now and reopened about 4 months from now if still relevant.

So, there is a preference to entering a season with a demoralizing 'We just can't do it.' Huh?
 

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The OP also showed a relationship that isn't written in stone, concerning levels of success with a less than top five defense picture...but who cares, right?

Advance to the rear....run away....quickly!

Really, who can remember all the way back to the season prior to last season, and they had a 12 win regular season...then a fumble, missed field goal, and horrid officials call on Dez Bryant kept the team out of the NFC Championship game. But there are more excuses that can be conjured up, for sure...

There's just no one on the current team with enough pride and memories to count on any level of success....

yep, real beauts for fans here...
 

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Cowboys’ Championship Quest: Can Dallas Get To The Super Bowl With A Strong Offense And Mid-level Defense?

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016...6-with-a-strong-offense-and-mid-level-defense


“Defense wins championships.” It’s an iconic phrase that’s been seared into our collective football consciousness for decades. But is it true? Not really, as it turns out.

Sure, great defensive teams have won plenty of Super Bowls. But plenty of great offensive teams without great defenses have won Super Bowls as well.

In this article, written just prior to last year’s Super Bowl between the Panthers and Broncos, Freakanomics writers Jon Wertheim and Sam Sommers essentially debunk the idea that top defensive play is necessary to Super Bowl success.

What we found: when it comes to winning championships – or winning in general, for that matter – defense and offense carry uncannily similar weight. Among the 49 NFL Super Bowls, the better defensive team, measured by points allowed that season, has won 30 times. The better offensive team has won 25 times. It’s a slight edge to defense, but it’s a pretty close call, and not different from random chance. The Super Bowl champ has been a top-five defensive team during the regular season on 31 occasions. How many times was the Super Bowl champ ranked among the top five in offense? 27. Damn near even.

Click here for a visual depiction of how Super Bowl teams have ranked on the offensive and defensive side of the ball. Again, it’s almost even. This NFL Network video comes to the same conclusion.

Doing my own unscientific research, I decided to look at the 20 Super Bowl matchups since the Dallas Cowboys faced off against the Pittsburgh Steelers in Super Bowl XXX and won 27-17. (The MVP of that game was cornerback Larry Brown, who intercepted two passes that turned the game in Dallas’s favor, so maybe defense does matter?)

That’s 20 matchups, 40 teams, each with its own offensive and defensive rankings on the season. I looked at points scored and points allowed rankings, rather than yards gained or allowed, because points win games. What I found was:


  • 20 teams - 50% - had a higher offensive ranking than a defensive one on the season.
  • 10 teams - 25% - had defenses ranked 10th in the NFL or lower.
  • Eight teams - 20% - had defenses ranked 15th or lower.
  • Two teams ranked 15th, one each ranked 17th, 20th, 22nd, 23rd, 25th, and 28th.
Were those defensively-challenged teams always paired with top offenses? Usually, but not always. These are some of the splits of Super Bowl teams over the last 20 seasons with the first half of these splits the offensive ranking of the team, and the second half the defensive ranking: 1/22 (Denver 2013), 10/12 (Baltimore 2012), 9/25 (Giants 2011), 3/15 (Patriots 2011), 1/20 (New Orleans 2009), 3/28 (Arizona 2008), 14/17 (Giants 2007), 2/23 (Indy 2006), 15/10 (Carolina 2003), and 7/15 (Tennessee 1999).

In these last 20 years, Dallas has had three teams that fit these criteria: 2006 4/20, 2007 2/13, and 2014 5/15. The team didn’t make the Super Bowl, but you can easily spin out scenarios where they could have, if a play here or there had turned out differently. Certainly the 2007 and 2014 teams were strong enough to make the NFC Championship game, and would have been favored in 2007 had they gotten there.

Is there any reason to think the Dallas Cowboys have no chance to contend this season? The team’s defensive ranking fell from 15th in 2014 to 16th in 2015, but given the inept offense and lack of turnovers, there was so much more pressure on that unit than there is likely to be this year, so you’d have to consider it a step forward last year.

Can the defense make additional progress in 2016? The major negatives are the loss of Greg Hardy (perhaps not such a negative, as no other team was willing to take on his baggage) and Rolando McClain, and the suspensions of Demarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory. On the plus side, Cedric Thornton was added inside, Terrell McClain has returned, Tyrone Crawford is healthy, Orlando Scandrick is back, and Byron Jones is now the free safety. With the potential for improvement from lots of young players, and a certain bounce back in the turnover department, it’s not hard to see Dallas ranking in the middle of NFL defenses again, with the chance to do slightly better.

On offense, so much depends on the play of Dak Prescott, and it’s so difficult to project regular season performance for rookies off preseason stats, that we’ll have to wait and see before we know how good the offense might be. The same will be true when Romo returns, given his recent spate of injuries and inability to string healthy and productive games together over the last two years. But whether we know or not, it’s certainly easy to be excited about the potential at quarterback.

With an unmatched offensive line, what could be the strongest running game in the NFL, a deep set of receivers, and strong special teams play, why can’t Dallas contend for a championship in 2016? The defense may not help that cause, but the evidence demonstrates it’s possible to win a championship with a mid-pack defense.

America’s Team faces uphill odds making the Super Bowl this year, but its defensive ranking isn’t going to keep the team from having a chance.
One thing I don't want to hear today: "Eli gets the ball out quick." Then don't play 5 yards off the receiver!!!! I'm not trying to hear it 2day.
 

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One thing I don't want to hear today: "Eli gets the ball out quick." Then don't play 5 yards off the receiver!!!! I'm not trying to hear it 2day.

lol, good secondaries always make my days as a fan...in this amped up NFL.

I don't want to watch unequal penalties against the Cowboys. Their play will be alright.
 

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No, no, and no. It's SB talk like this that makes us the laughing stock of the NFL every year. This thread should be locked right now and reopened about 4 months from now if still relevant.

Well then go away and come back in 4 months...then we won't have to have another negative Nancy around....
 

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how about they try winning some games first before the superbowl talk starts it takes a team with all parts of it to get to the playoffs and win a championship

And it needs to start some where to win some games to get the talk starting. So let's get it started over the next 4 weeks. This is why we are fans. The first game of the season, and all fans of all teams have SB thoughts.
 

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Great players win championships.

Can they: read the sig

Let's check out some of the slouches that neve won...

Marino, Fouts, Jorgenson, Tarkenton, Derrick Thomas, Deacon Jones, Tim Brown, Chris Carter, Steve Largen, Eric Allen, etc....

I could go on and on and on, but that would be piling on. Your sig is just too easy so I'll be nice.

BTW - I sincerely hope you dropped a grand on Dallas in Vegas.
 

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So, there is a preference to entering a season with a demoralizing 'We just can't do it.' Huh?
Did I say that? No.

Well then go away and come back in 4 months...then we won't have to have another negative Nancy around....
Lol, yeah, I'm negative Nancy because I'm sick of hearing about the Cowboys going to the Superbowl every year. Actions speak louder than words. I don't like losing but I can't imagine how disappointed you must be every season with that expectation.

I bet you agree with Jerry that Romo has another 4-5 good years left, lol. I happen to disagree but I guess that's because I'm negative Nancy. I think our defense is lackluster and is our weakest point, but again, I'm just being negative Nancy. I think Elliot will get ~1,500 yards this season but may not break the rookie rushing record but I'm just negative.
 

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Did I say that? No.


Lol, yeah, I'm negative Nancy because I'm sick of hearing about the Cowboys going to the Superbowl every year. Actions speak louder than words. I don't like losing but I can't imagine how disappointed you must be every season with that expectation.


Don't like the heat...stay out of the kitchen.

Uh, that doesn't discuss a difference in observation point.
 

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Don't like the heat...stay out of the kitchen.

Uh, that doesn't discuss a difference in observation point.
I don't even know what you're trying to say and I'm pretty sure you don't either.
 
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