Can The Dallas Cowboys Create A Dangerous Pass-Rush In 2014?

slomoxn said:
That's what I'm talking about, sacks are good but pressuring the QB into mistakes are even more effective as they compound over the course of the gsme
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show me a real effective pass rush that did not have a good number of sacks. Guess what, they go hand in hand.
 
I won't go as far as to say they will have a dangerous pass rush. That remains to be seen. However, with the new approach, fresh legs, younger better players than the street injured guys they were forced to play last year. They only can improve.

As to getting more sacks, that's not so much the issue. Just be consisitent. Then the sacks will come later. As a group, yes they can form a decent pass rush. they don't need a sack leader, as in Ware. They need to have guys with multiple sacks, so the QB doesn't know where the pass rush is coming from. They won't know who to double team. Until someone may step up to be that guy.

Stop the run, pressure the QB. Hopefully the secondary will finally show we have some players. Still all remains to be seen. But I'm going into this season feeling better about this defense than I have for a while, even with all the changes and new players. Kind of like when Jimmy was getting his defense together, but he had higher draft picks to work with. Actually I wonder how many high picks were taken on offense vs. defense. That's another thread though.
 
theogt said:
Dangerous for our secondary.
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I recall a lot of quick passes last year that were too easy to complete. There was no chance of a pass rush on those.

I didn't really study the game footage to see the reasons, but I'm guessing that the coverage of the LBs was part of the problem.

The 2013 defensive problems were not just the DLine, IMO.
 
Ntegrase96 said:
Seems like they're building a rotation of guys who are a bit better than average to make up for a non elite DL. I personally like the approach...

Related note: Seattle does not have an elite pass rusher. Just some above average FRESH guys wearing down the OL

It's amazing what base level NFL talent can do provided they be Fresh and knowing they can go 'all out' because they only have 20-25 more snaps.
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I see a lot of question marks. I wouldn't say anyone on this dline is above average, except Melton, but he isn't too far above average, and is coming off an injury. We don't have one guy who has proven himself on this dline.

As far as having a rotation, do we think Rod invented that concept? A rotation void of talent will still yield poor results.
 
CyberB0b said:
I see a lot of question marks. I wouldn't say anyone on this dline is above average, except Melton, but he isn't too far above average, and is coming off an injury. We don't have one guy who has proven himself on this dline.

As far as having a rotation, do we think Rod invented that concept? A rotation void of talent will still yield poor results.
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"As far as having a rotation, do we think Rod invented that concept? A rotation void of talent will still yield poor results."

Just because Rod didn't invent rotation doesn't degrade the idea. Fresh legs will be fresh legs.
Rotation will improve results low talent or high talent.
 
Right now it is an unknown, we have some young guys that will be seeing significate playing time along with some vets. Myself I would not write this group off so fast. Give them the chance to show what they can do some just may be surprised
 
waving monkey said:
"As far as having a rotation, do we think Rod invented that concept? A rotation void of talent will still yield poor results."

Just because Rod didn't invent rotation doesn't degrade the idea. Fresh legs will be fresh legs.
Rotation will improve results low talent or high talent.
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We rotated through about 20 different dlineman last year. Some fresh off the couch with no wear and tear. How did that work out?
 
More dangerous than 2013, yeah, I can see that happening. I think the DL is going to pleasantly surprise many people this year.

I think we will see a much improved DL from 2013. We need Selvie to be as good as last year or slightly better. If Crawford and Bass play decent to well, Lawrence plays like a good 2nd rd pick, Melton and McClain play well, and Gardner and others can show something, I think we may have a pretty good DL. If they can stay healthy...
 
waving monkey said:
how would have no rotation worked out
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You mean we wouldn't have broken multiple records in ineptitude if we didn't have such a great rotation of scrubs last year?

ninja said:
More dangerous than 2013, yeah, I can see that happening. I think the DL is going to pleasantly surprise many people this year.

I think we will see a much improved DL from 2013. We need Selvie to be as good as last year or slightly better. If Crawford and Bass play decent to well, Lawrence plays like a good 2nd rd pick, Melton and McClain play well, and Gardner and others can show something, I think we may have a pretty good DL. If they can stay healthy...
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That would mean they would have to be batting .1000 to get everything to fall into place exactly like that. I don't think it's likely, but we'll see, I guess.
 
Ntegrase96 said:
Seems like they're building a rotation of guys who are a bit better than average to make up for a non elite DL. I personally like the approach...

Related note: Seattle does not have an elite pass rusher. Just some above average FRESH guys wearing down the OL

It's amazing what base level NFL talent can do provided they be Fresh and knowing they can go 'all out' because they only have 20-25 more snaps.
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Yup...and they bring most if not all of them from diff. positions during the game......which presents a prep problem for the OLine as they study tendencies, fav. moves etc.........they have to prep for 4, maybe 8 guys---which wears mentally on the OLIne as they wear down late in the game.
 
To answer the threads question.....I don't know, but it is the key to EVERYTHING this season.
 
slomoxn said:
That's what I'm talking about, sacks are good but pressuring the QB into mistakes are even more effective as they compound over the course of the gsme
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One sack........when it seemed as if Manning was on the ground the whole game..........but they had a hand near the ball or were a step away the whole time, did get numerous hits on him..........These qB with the Welker type slots are going to be hard to sack, but pressure accomplishes the same thing, even makes a MVP out of a no-name LB with a pik 6
 
CyberB0b said:
You mean we wouldn't have broken multiple records in ineptitude if we didn't have such a great rotation of scrubs last year?



That would mean they would have to be batting .1000 to get everything to fall into place exactly like that. I don't think it's likely, but we'll see, I guess.
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well your sarcasm is duly noted but the point all along is rotation helps
of course your second comment is just furthering your attempt to throw dirt on their grave
hold that shovel of dirt please there's a phoenix arising
 
waving monkey said:
"As far as having a rotation, do we think Rod invented that concept? A rotation void of talent will still yield poor results."

Just because Rod didn't invent rotation doesn't degrade the idea. Fresh legs will be fresh legs.
Rotation will improve results low talent or high talent.
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lol, Vince Lombardi didn't invent a basic concept football...but his teams sure excelled in that.
 
From the start, this fan will be highly satisfied with Dallas defenders knocking the breaths and bouncing head gears with their collisions on bodies.

I'm not overly concerned with what survives after that, whether player or opponent's immediate gains.

This group of Cowboys will be gaining on success.
 
CyberB0b said:
I see a lot of question marks. I wouldn't say anyone on this dline is above average, except Melton, but he isn't too far above average, and is coming off an injury. We don't have one guy who has proven himself on this dline.

As far as having a rotation, do we think Rod invented that concept? A rotation void of talent will still yield poor results.
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Yeah a lot of question marks for sure. But it looks like that's the direction they're heading in. I recognize that a rotation of crappy talent will still produce crappy results. We saw that last year with our revolving door of scrubs, trying to plug a sinking ship.

I'd say Melton, when healthy, was well above average. Prior to his injury he was widely regarded as a fringe top 5 DT.
 
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