can we finally put the Patriot dynasty away?

[blindzebra]

3 wins by 9 points and 2 losses.

Belicheat is NOT the best coach ever.

Brady is NOT the best QB ever.

 

[skinsscalper]

3 wins by 9 points and 2 losses.

Belicheat is NOT the best coach ever.

Brady is NOT the best QB ever.

And an appearance in 5 of the last 11 Super Bowls. Care to name another team or QB/HC that's accomplished the same feat? You're argument couldn't be more stupid if you tried.

 

[Brian_C82]

I think they're the best dynasty in history along with the 70's Cowboys.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

3 wins by 9 points and 2 losses.

Belicheat is NOT the best coach ever.

Brady is NOT the best QB ever.

You've got to be joking. 3 wins is 3 wins who gives a **** if they were only by 9 points?

 

[tyke1doe]

3 wins by 9 points and 2 losses.

Belicheat is NOT the best coach ever.

Brady is NOT the best QB ever.

Getting to five Super Bowls and winning three is still pretty impressive.

Only one other quarterback got to five Super Bowls other than Brady and that's John Elway.

I don't think Brady would have been the best quarterback ever even if he had won this Super Bowl. Just too subjective. But he's one of the best, probably top five even losing.

 

[Hoofbite]

They've consistently been competitive for a decade and have been to half the Super Bowls in that time.

What if they aren't done?

 

[jimmy40]

I think they're the best dynasty in history along with the 70's Cowboys.

70's Cowboys over 70's Steelers?

 

[blindzebra]

The 60's Packers, 70's Steelers and Cowboys, 80's Niners, 90's Cowboys would all CRUSH NE.

Hell they would get killed by the 90's Bills too.

 

[Brian_C82]

70's Cowboys over 70's Steelers?

I would rank the 70's Steelers with the 90's Cowboys. They were great for a few years (1974-1979), but fell apart pretty rapidly after that. The Cowboys were consistently one of the top teams from 1967 to 1982. The Patriots and 49ers are the only other dynasties with that kind of longevity.

 

[Brian_C82]

The 60's Packers, 70's Steelers and Cowboys, 80's Niners, 90's Cowboys would all CRUSH NE.

Hell they would get killed by the 90's Bills too.

None of those old teams would stand a chance against the 2011 Patriots or Giants. Today's players are MUCH faster, bigger, stronger, etc. Even the 2011 Cowboys would probably beat them. It wouldn't even be a contest.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Zero Super Bowl wins after the defense's had a chance to change their playcalling once Spy Gate broke. 2-2 in the playoffs since then, including a pair of first round playoff losses.

Belicheat had a chance tonight, but he's Coughlin's little *****.

 

[dthahn]

And an appearance in 5 of the last 11 Super Bowls. Care to name another team or QB/HC that's accomplished the same feat? You're argument couldn't be more stupid if you tried.

You've obviously missed the cheating reference. The point is the Pats never would have won if they hadn't cheated their arses off. Do you also consider the Buffalo Bills a dynasty too! Get a clue!

 

[TheCoolFan]

Belichick's stock took a huge hit tonight and he knows it. Pats are too finesse with that spread offense. You need real WRs that can stretch the field and put pressure on DBs...look at what the Giants, Packers, and Saints do. On top of that, their defense has problems...

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Belichick's stock took a huge hit tonight and he knows it. Pats are too finesse with that spread offense. You need real WRs that can stretch the field and put pressure on DBs...look at what the Giants, Packers, and Saints do. On top of that, their defense has problems...

Their defense was actually solid tonight. They only allowed 2 touchdowns. They just couldn't score on the Giants.

 

[CowboyMike]

The 60's Packers, 70's Steelers and Cowboys, 80's Niners, 90's Cowboys would all CRUSH NE.

Hell they would get killed by the 90's Bills too.

Using their rules? Probably.

Using today's rules? I'd say NE beats them 6 out of 10 times. Those teams wouldn't be able to play NE's receivers physically like they did back in their day. It's a different game now.

 

[TheCoolFan]

But it's not the same dominant defense it was during their dynasty years...the defense that would take the Colts' offense and shut them down. That was their identity and somewhere along the line, Belichick's team lost their identity and they became more of an offensive team to cater to Brady's development as an elite QB.

 

[Bloodbunny]

None of those old teams would stand a chance against the 2011 Patriots or Giants. Today's players are MUCH faster, bigger, stronger, etc. Even the 2011 Cowboys would probably beat them. It wouldn't even be a contest.

Don't kid yourself, the game/players haven't changed THAT much since the 90s. The 60s and 70s? Yes certainly; but the late 80s and 90s teams most certainly could.. hell Brett Favre was a product of that era and played well until 2010....

 

[Doomsday101]

3 wins by 9 points and 2 losses.

Belicheat is NOT the best coach ever.

Brady is NOT the best QB ever.

Regardless of who people feel is the better coach or QB "ever" does not change the fact that the Pats have put together a great Franchise under Belicheck. I'm not a fan of the Pats but I will give credit where it is due.
Fact is in 12 season in NE Belicheck has had 10 of 12 years where they have won 10 or more games and have gone to 5 SB winning 3.

Whether we call it best ever or one of the best, it is very impressive what they have accomplished

 

[Aikbach]

The Patriots are a dynasty, the caveat is they presided over a truly vanilla era in NFL competition.

 

[yimyammer]

Yeah they suck, Landry did too since he lost 3 Super Bowls

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