News: CBS: Cowboys rookie CB Byron Jones has impressed during practice

[TheEnigma]

I don't understand why so many want him at Safety more than corner. You realize that we only have 2 decent corners right???? Scandrick is the best corner we have but he is far from a great corner. And Carr..... well, he is average at best. Church and Wilcox can at least hold there own but corner play is going to kill us if we don't get it covered. We need BJ at corner far more than safety.

I think it's a combination of Byron may have higher upside at safety and we haven't had an great free safety since Wooson.

 

[KJJ]

I'll get excited when Jones impresses during games. Just like with everyone the Cowboys drafted the jury is still out until we see them play in games.

 

[KJJ]

I've never been one to get excited about a player due to great practice reviews. I'm hearing that RG3 has improved his pocket presence during mini camps. Don't know how that can be determined when he's not facing a real pass rush. Hard to make accurate judgments about a player until the real bullets start flying in Sept.

 

[CCBoy]

KJJ, that is sound...but these early season directional indicators do provide comparisons and foundation observations for the current season. But on the carpet film is always a sounder investment for a fan.

 

[guag]

The media likes to talk about Claiborne, but I think a big key to whether or not the Cowboys are deep in the secondary will revolve around Corey White. He showed some really good ability with the Saints but lacked consistency. If he can become consistent, I think it really improves the depth at DB. Marinelli is much more about teaching fundamentals and having a more simple scheme then Rob Ryan, so I think that will be good for a player like White.

Wilcox made some mistakes last year no doubt, but when I went back and really studied him on the All-22, about half of what I originally thought were mistakes by him were actually mistakes by the players around him. Marinelli requires the FS to play the scheme and assume that the surrounding players will do what they are expected to do within the scheme. When LBs or CBs don't play the scheme correctly, it makes the FS appear to have been out of position. Bruce Carter was one of the culprits. Cam Lawrence and Keith Smith played a few snaps at LB and they screwed Wilcox over on most of those snaps. RoMc was not perfect in this area either. The CB Moore had a tendency to freelance at times. Claiborne when he was starting early in the season made a few really dumb decisions.

I lot of playing within the scheme is fairly simple stuff. If the FS expects the LB to funnel the runner inside but the LB lets him get outside, then the FS is out of position. Those types of issues are often not really visible on the broadcast footage.

Did not realize that about Wilcox, I don't have access to All-22 and haven't had a chance to look back at that stuff. I really think I should just bite the bullet though and buy NFL Game Rewind. In fact, I'm going to do that right now.

BTW I'm not sure where to ask this so I'll just ask it here... should I pay the $24.99 for NFL Game Rewind now, which lasts through July 31st, or should I just buy a subscription on August 1st? Is $24.99 for essentially 1 month worth it?

 

[kevm3]

I hope we don't ruin his development by having him jump around all of these different positions. Find out quickly whether you want him at safety or corner and leave him there so he can immerse himself in a position.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I have an eye for talent. This kid is going to be good. It's just a matter of how good. He has the smarts and athleticism that guys like Mo lack.

Forgive me for believing you can evaluate guys without seeing full padded practices.

 

[jnday]

I'm honestly very excited about the secondary prospects. I really hope Mo plays up to his potential....

I am just happy that it looks like they drafted a solid DB and didn't have to make a horrible trade to do it. I like the fact that Jones is smart and his wonderlic score was above single digits. One of Jimmy Johnson's rules was to never draft a dumb player.

 

[jnday]

I have an eye for talent. This kid is going to be good. It's just a matter of how good. He has the smarts and athleticism that guys like Mo lack.

Forgive me for believing you can evaluate guys without seeing full padded practices.

You need to work for a NFL team if you have that ability . I have seen some players look like All Pros until they had to make contact with pads on. Every year there are some OTA superstars that fade away during training camp when the pads are put on.they are unemployed a short time later.

 

[guag]

I have an eye for talent.

Your avatar agrees with you.

 

[Seven]

I don't understand why so many want him at Safety more than corner. You realize that we only have 2 decent corners right???? Scandrick is the best corner we have but he is far from a great corner. And Carr..... well, he is average at best. Church and Wilcox can at least hold there own but corner play is going to kill us if we don't get it covered. We need BJ at corner far more than safety.

.................And you realize we have even less at a true FS position.

Wilcox isn't the answer.

Church is a biscuit away from being a line backer..............

 

[xwalker]

I am just happy that it looks like they drafted a solid DB and didn't have to make a horrible trade to do it. I like the fact that Jones is smart and his wonderlic score was above single digits. One of Jimmy Johnson's rules was to never draft a dumb player.

It would be great if message board posters had to take the Wonderlic. The scores could be displayed under each poster's avatar.

 

[AsthmaField]

You need to work for a NFL team if you have that ability . I have seen some players look like All Pros until they had to make contact with pads on. Every year there are some OTA superstars that fade away during training camp when the pads are put on.they are unemployed a short time later.

That's because another one of Jimmy's rules was to never draft a guy who didn't like the contact that comes with pro football. They can look great until they're having to worry about collisions, then they suddenly aren't playing as well.

Luckily, I think Jones doesn't shy away from contact, but you're right... we really never know until they practice in full pads.

The best news is that the team has done a real good job of finding guys who can really play now... at least since about 2010.

 

[AsthmaField]

It would be great if message board posters had to take the Wonderlic. The scores could be displayed under each poster's avatar.

lol, I'd be down with that...

 

[erod]

It would be great if message board posters had to take the Wonderlic. The scores could be displayed under each poster's avatar.

Had to take one at work back in the 90s. All new applicants' did. You don't see it much anymore because we're getting dumber as a society.

 

[waving monkey]

Standard generic puff piece. When was the last time you heard of someone being terrible at OTAs? They're glorified walk throughs.

I have heard reports when players show stiff hips,slow hard time picking up the keys and responsibility.
All reports on Jones is none of that. He has done what he has been ask to do.
Because Jones tend to throw bouquets doesn't mean its not for good reason.
of course I dont know one way are the other

 

[xwalker]

Had to take one at work back in the 90s. All new applicants' did. You don't see it much anymore because we're getting dumber as a society.

It would be great comedy if everyone's score really was under their avatar.

 

[AsthmaField]

It would be great comedy if everyone's score really was under their avatar.

lol, we could let all the members vote on what they think everyone else's score would be, and then put their average below their avatar.

 

[jblaze2004]

He must be pretty smart learning 2 positions as a rookie. (even though he played both in college).

 

[Future]

I don't understand why so many want him at Safety more than corner. You realize that we only have 2 decent corners right???? Scandrick is the best corner we have but he is far from a great corner. And Carr..... well, he is average at best. Church and Wilcox can at least hold there own but corner play is going to kill us if we don't get it covered. We need BJ at corner far more than safety.

Agreed.

I'd take a good corner over a good safety all day.