Changed my mind about Ramsey

[3rdEyewarrior]

He’s only 28. He’s a top 3 corner. He ran 4.41 at 208. Which means as he ages, he can drop a little weight. Slay is about 32 and still
Elite. Talib was elite into his 30s. He might have 3-4 pro bowl years left I. Him. I just wouldn’t give up a 1st for him. It might be wise to trade d-law. He’ll be 31. He’s still in his prime but it’s better to trade him a year early. We have his replacement t in the team ajready. If not law, offer a2nd and maybe Steele.

 

[Adreme]

The Rams are trying to clear cap not add to it so they are going to need that 1 and that is what it will take.

 

[DanA]

It starts to get expensive if your paying his contract, giving up a premium pick, and then throwing in an RFA on a cheap deal as a sweatener.

He’s a good player but that’s a no for me.

 

[USArmyVet]

He’s only 28. He’s a top 3 corner. He ran 4.41 at 208. Which means as he ages, he can drop a little weight. Slay is about 32 and still
Elite. Talib was elite into his 30s. He might have 3-4 pro bowl years left I. Him. I just wouldn’t give up a 1st for him. It might be wise to trade d-law. He’ll be 31. He’s still in his prime but it’s better to trade him a year early. We have his replacement t in the team ajready. If not law, offer a2nd and maybe Steele.

First things first: Trading DLaw escalates his dead money ($35M) immediately which when compared to his 2023 cap hit ($26M) means Dallas would absord a negative $9M cap hit against the 2023 cap.....so that alone, unless DLaw agrees to restructure his deal to make him more tradeable, is a no go in terms of trading DLaw....secondly, who would Dallas replace DLaw with and why would the Rams (if that is your suggestion) want a 31-year old DE with a big contract when they are ridding themselves of contracts????

Regarding Ramsey, his current remaining contract is as such:

2023: $17M base salary $32.1M dead money (that is dead money the Rams would absorb for trading him to include all bonuses)
2024: $14.5M cap hit
2025: $15.5M cap hit


So a 29-year-old CB that you say hypothetically has another 3-4 years of good football remaining has a contract that is somewhat expensive for the next 3 years so how could Dallas afford to trade for him (regardless of compensation) when they have the likes of Lamb, Diggs, and Parsons to pay in the next few years while Jerry also stated he is not an "all in"type of Owner/GM?

 

[ConstantReboot]

He’s only 28. He’s a top 3 corner. He ran 4.41 at 208. Which means as he ages, he can drop a little weight. Slay is about 32 and still
Elite. Talib was elite into his 30s. He might have 3-4 pro bowl years left I. Him. I just wouldn’t give up a 1st for him. It might be wise to trade d-law. He’ll be 31. He’s still in his prime but it’s better to trade him a year early. We have his replacement t in the team ajready. If not law, offer a2nd and maybe Steele.

I doubt that anyone wants Dlaw. His contract and his production is what makes him untradeable.

 

[noshame]

Quinn has demonstrated he can build a defense with moving parts.
. Build through the draft, find a QB, add OL and DT

 

[CTcowboy203]

I’m glad you have….now for the front office? Zero chance in hell they trade for him

 

[visionary]

It would be an idiotic move so I have no doubt we are exploring it

I would go the other way. Diggs will want more than Ramsey next off season and not worth it. I would trade him for a rd 1 pick now and take a CB with that pick

Take those 20 million you were going to pay Diggs and sign Hargrave and Hankins

Now you have essentially traded Diggs for a starting CB+Hargrave+Hankins

 

[Daillest88]

No. Go after DT. I liked Israel play, even tho it was a small sample I like his potential. We really need to get after DT. Regarding slay. His play toward the end of the year wasn’t that great. Also had the best pass rushing team in the league.

 

[Havic]

If we can get good pressure up the middle and continue to have edge rush in parsons and Williams, we don’t need elite corners. Plus we have a lot of holes to fill and not the best cap situation.

I’d love to take him but it’s just not possible imo.

 

[JW82]

cap/draft capital aside, you’d have a sick set of cbs. Would like it more if they could make the trade without losing this years 1.

 

[Flamma]

So a 29-year-old CB that you say hypothetically has another 3-4 years of good football remaining has a contract that is somewhat expensive for the next 3 years so how could Dallas afford to trade for him (regardless of compensation) when they have the likes of Lamb, Diggs, and Parsons to pay in the next few years while Jerry also stated he is not an "all in"type of Owner/GM?

Because Lamb, Diggs, and Parsons big cap hits don't start right away. Diggs, 2025, Lamb, 2026, and Parsons, 2027. If signed, that's when we'll see big cap hits from those players. We have a two year window if we picked up Ramsey.

 

[USArmyVet]

Because Lamb, Diggs, and Parsons big cap hits don't start right away. Diggs, 2025, Lamb, 2026, and Parsons, 2027. If signed, that's when we'll see big cap hits from those players. We have a two year window if we picked up Ramsey.

The question then is what does Dallas offer and what do the Rams accept as compensation?

From a salary cap aspect for 2023 Dallas has 2 players they can designate as post June 1st cap cuts: Zeke and Tyron Smith wherein those 2 releases alone make available $24.345M ($9.98M in dead money for 2023 and $9.98M in dead money for 2024) so that money could, in theory, just about cover the salary of Ramsey as it currently stands for 2023 ($17M) as well as going after Bobby Wagner (offer him $10M for 2023).....so 2 subtractions of used to be players from the offense to add 2 players playing at high levels for the defense.

 

[Flamma]

The question then is what does Dallas offer and what do the Rams accept as compensation?

From a salary cap aspect for 2023 Dallas has 2 players they can designate as post June 1st cap cuts: Zeke and Tyron Smith wherein those 2 releases alone make available $24.345M ($9.98M in dead money for 2023 and $9.98M in dead money for 2024) so that money could, in theory, just about cover the salary of Ramsey as it currently stands for 2023 ($17M) as well as going after Bobby Wagner (offer him $10M for 2023).....so 2 subtractions of used to be players from the offense to add 2 players playing at high levels for the defense.

Yes, but will Jerry do that? If you want to win, you have to get a little aggressive. I just don't see it happening because another team is going to swoop in and do better than us. We have the 27th pick. I'm not sure I'd want to give up more than that. There's risk, and there's reckless.

 

[Bowdown27]

I’d rather dt and wr over Ramsey imo

 

[Jarntt]

He’s only 28. He’s a top 3 corner. He ran 4.41 at 208. Which means as he ages, he can drop a little weight. Slay is about 32 and still
Elite. Talib was elite into his 30s. He might have 3-4 pro bowl years left I. Him. I just wouldn’t give up a 1st for him. It might be wise to trade d-law. He’ll be 31. He’s still in his prime but it’s better to trade him a year early. We have his replacement t in the team ajready. If not law, offer a2nd and maybe Steele.

So you will be ok with bringing in one of the best CBs in the league? Good stuff

On your last comment you would prefer to give up a 2nd and a young very good RT who seems to be getting even better, but not a 1st? I'm not saying I'd give up a first for Ramsey, but I'm trying to figure out if it is better to trade a 1st for an asset or a 2nd and our starting RT. My issue here is then you need a RT and probably have to use your 1st to get one and hope he is as good as Steele. Maybe better, sure, but certainly maybe worse also.

 

[CTcowboy203]

it Would be like 35+ million committed to corner next season.there’s no way they are doing it and shouldn’t

 

[CashMan]

He’s only 28. He’s a top 3 corner. He ran 4.41 at 208. Which means as he ages, he can drop a little weight. Slay is about 32 and still
Elite. Talib was elite into his 30s. He might have 3-4 pro bowl years left I. Him. I just wouldn’t give up a 1st for him. It might be wise to trade d-law. He’ll be 31. He’s still in his prime but it’s better to trade him a year early. We have his replacement t in the team ajready. If not law, offer a2nd and maybe Steele.

How do you expect to re-sign players, if you keep adding payroll.

 

[CATCH17]

I’d like to see Dallas go for Aaron Donald if anything.

Get him for 3 seasons and pair him with Parsons..

 

[Bobhaze]

Yes Ramsey is still effective. But adding a Corner doesn’t do as much for this team as adding a top shelf interior defensive lineman.