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Don Banks of SI , from Eageles Camp report below. Looks like Eggles are having a goo camp , they are awfully younger team , who has some upside . We should be wary of them , IMO.

Three Observations

1. Shall we be blunt? Trading Donovan McNabb, far more than serviceable at age 33, is the gutsiest trade the NFL has seen in a long time. This team will now live and die with Houston-educated Kevin Benjamin Kolb, a 25-year-old who's saying, if not yet doing, all the right things in camp, so far.
Philly brass liked what they saw of him in limited action last season -- he threw for 718 yards and four scores in his only two starts, when McNabb was tending to cracked ribs -- and Reid has noted the adjustments Kolb's making on the fly in Bethlehem. On Saturday, for instance, Kolb tossed two picks -- one to cornerback Dmitri Patterson, who had cased the would-be eight-yard hitch. Then Sunday, on the exact same call -- and with Asante Samuel waiting -- Kolb pump-faked and made the play. "When Kevin makes a mistake," Reid says, "he learns from it and makes progress."
Kolb already has the arm, his team's confidence in the huddle and the talent to succeed; here's hoping he gets those mistakes out of the way before fans start glancing longingly in the direction of D.C.
2. Then again, maybe the defense Kolb is facing in camp is just that good. Defensive coordinator Sean McDermott's unit, helmed by middle linebacker Stewart Bradley, has looked decidedly more impressive than the offense. It's also looked decidedly more physical. Eagles camp has been notable if only for the hard, game-quality hits levied by the defense in team drills.
Buckley alone has been legitimately trucked by both Bradley and his partner in crime, Ernie Sims, on separate occasions. ("The thing that stands out to me," Reid would say of Buckley, "is he is an extremely tough human being.") And if the ACL that the 6-foot-4, 260-pound Bradley tore this time last year is no longer an issue -- and Bradley tells me it isn't -- it's easy to imagine the linebacker leveraging his tremendous physical tools and brains to solidify a place among the NFL elite.
3. Bradley, by the way, is 26. Jackson, 23; McCoy, 22. The team's excellent tight end, Brent Celek, is 25. The team's other starting wideout, former Missouri bullet Jeremy Maclin, is 22. And then there are the 13 rookies the Eagles drafted and brought to camp, including early Defensive Rookie of the Year favorite Brandon Graham. Which is all to say: these Eagles are young. And even if they fall short this year, Philly is as stocked with talent for the next five years as anyone. In fact, it's to the point where it's been hard for the veterans here -- whose ranks are missing the big three of McNabb, Brian Westbrook and Brian Dawkins -- to simply remember who everyone is. (This is not a joke.)
New Face, New Place

Sims -- whom the Eagles got from Detroit for a fifth-rounder in a three-way trade with Denver last April -- is all of 25 himself. And though he racked up only 49 tackles in an injury-marred campaign last season, the fire he brings to practice has at once impressed and unsettled his teammates. That massive hit on Buckley came when the back had gone airborne to try to reel in a catch on a screen play in a passing drill; fullback Leonard Weaver noted that some team elders had to instruct Sims to calm down. Center Mike McGlynn audibly expressed displeasure right after that hit, fearing for his teammate's health. Then ... those are two offensive players.
Bradley is a huge fan of Sims, for one thing; the ever-vocal Samuel essentially went into a seizure of pleasure at the sight, and seems all too thrilled to foster an offense-defense turf war; the same goes for another former Patriots cornerback, Ellis Hobbs. And Sims doesn't exactly shy away from his rep. Pressed later about whether he'd been going for the ball or Buckley, Sims chuckled, wryly. 'Twas the latter.
Rookie Report

Graham, taken 13th overall out of Michigan, has already drawn national raves. It's easy to see why the bandwagon is filling up: Graham, 270 pounds and an alleged 6-foot-2, is constructed like a squatter version of Optimus Prime. And on top of having the motor to match, Graham has been busy perfecting his technique (recently the chop-and-swipe made famous by the late, great Reggie White). I don't yet know if he'll wind up being Dwight Freeney -- a guy who shares almost the exact same body type -- but Graham and the underappreciated Trent Cole (12.5 sacks last year) will wreak havoc from the edges.
Memorable Image

Simply this: Michael Vick signing autographs to kind words and applause and posing for photographs with little kids at their parents' asking. It's proof, as if we needed any more, that athletes don't even need to win to spark forgiveness or forgetfulness. All you need is a couple years. And yes: If Vick has genuinely turned the page, as Tony Dungy thinks, even better.
Parting Shots

1. The third-string quarterback in camp is none other than Northwestern's Mike Kafka, whom Philly drafted in the fourth round. If Vick is knocked down to third-string at some point, I'm obviously going to describe his experience with the Eagles as Kafkaesque.
2. Defensive tackle and Notre Dame product Trevor Laws, who had been dissatisfied by watching film of himself being repeatedly stonewalled by double-teams, has intentionally added both 20 pounds and a mustache to his frame. The Eagles are better for the changes.
3. DeSean Jackson no longer wishes to verbalize thought to the media, it seems. "I just don't want to talk," Jackson said to the press this weekend. "I have nothing to talk about." (He's said to be frustrated by his contract situation, or something.) Personally, I can't decide if it's better to have a player be up front about his general immaturity and/or disdain or have him simply "Both-teams-played-hard" his way through an otherwise horrible interview.
4. If you've been confused as to why some notable former players have been roaming the sidelines this summer while sporting team-issued paraphernalia, wonder no longer: The NFL's admirable Minority Coaching Fellowship Program is what brought erstwhile Eagles tailback Duce Staley back to Bethlehem. (And reunited Terrell Davis with Mike Shanahan in Ashburn, Va. with the Commanders.) The official title is "coaching intern."
5. Jason Avant, offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg said this morning, has had as good a camp as any wideout he's ever seen. Avant has caught 80 balls in competitive drills against zero -- yes, zero -- drops. Jackson, Maclin, Avant and Celek are on track to be one scary foursome.
 
Yeah, they are very young and talented. But the fact of the matter is, if all those young guys turn into players, some of them are going to be lost due to free agency. It's the way the nfl is. You can't afford to keep everyone.
 
Andy Reid is always going to put a competitor on the field.

It's just all the people putting Kolb into the Hall of Fame that are pissing me off.
 
pgreptom;3492636 said:
Roll over - the Eagles have won the Superbowl in August.

I wouldn't say that but I don't think you can assume the Cowboys will beat them as badly as they did last season. It's certainly possible that we split with them.
 
Hopefully the Cowboys will also have improved over last year. Don't forget we lost big time to the Vikes. If Favre returns (despite recent comments) and plays like he did most of last year & against us in playoff game, we have to move up big time. By no means am I prepared to think the Eagles have improved significantly to beat a Dallas team which I really hope is much better then last year.
 
Well, good or bad, there won't be many dull moments.

I'll be watching that defense during the exhibition games. They were sort of middle of the pack last year (9th in total D, 19th in scoring). The offense was definitely the strength of that club.

I don't think its any kind of bandwagon, but does anybody think Kolb is going to have a hard time matching or exceeding McNabb's stats from last year? With Maclin, Jackson, Avant, Celek and Weaver to throw to? I don't. He might throw a few more up for grabs, but he'll probably also have fewer knocked out of his hand running around in the backfield because he doesn't have the balls to throw it. Oops, some of my anti-McNabb bias slipped in there.

So, if the offense doesn't take a step back, and the defense actually steps up, the Eagles could be a dangerous team this year, particularly late in the year. Lets hope that offensive line is as bad as it looks.

This one's for you, Sarge: 8-8, 3rd place in the NFC East.
 
I think the Cowboys as currently constructed match up quite well with the Eagles. Althogh i think the Eagles will be significantly better than last year's group that never really had a healthy Westbrook.
 
This article has been rolled out year after year.

Eagles replace the higher priced Vets with lower paid young players.

Sure they look good practicing against themselves. They do every year.

Did they sign any one significant Free Agent this off Season????

All they do is switch the names......
 
cowboy fans are scared of the eagles no matter what. i remember last year half of the board was scared to play philly 2 games in a row towards the playoffs. like that made a difference. grow some nuggets
 
Any Given Sunday really should Any Given Season. So, the Eagles could be tough this year.

But I'd put my money that they won't be that good. Westbrook was that teams offense. **** McNabb, that team was about Westbrook. Now, no Westbrook and no McNabb.

That defense was Jim Johnson. Without him they were mediocre last year.
He's not coming back.

I just do not see the Eagles being a strong team this year. They are a LOT closer to 6-10 than 10-6, imo.
 
Nightshade;3492885 said:
I think the Cowboys as currently constructed match up quite well with the Eagles. Althogh i think the Eagles will be significantly better than last year's group that never really had a healthy Westbrook.
not really afraid.

mccoy is no westbrook.
 
stilltheguru;3493117 said:
cowboy fans are scared of the eagles no matter what.

How in the **** would you know anything about Cowboy fans?

Go play with your T.O. bobble head ......
 
casmith07;3492634 said:
Andy Reid is always going to put a competitor on the field.

It's just all the people putting Kolb into the Hall of Fame that are pissing me off.

I could live with the hype if there was any substance to back it up, but there's none whatsoever. Oh boy, he played two games, threw touchdowns, and threw a fair amount of interceptions in those games as well.

He's getting the Romo treatment if this keeps up, lol.

"Hasn't won a playoff game."
"Kevin KornKolb"
"He's a turnover machine."
 
Philly will go as far as Kolb takes them. Their OL was no great last yr. and we will rush the crap out of him.

Their D can be run on. The front 7 was overrated. IF we can block the DEs, they don't worry me that much.
 
I just think it is impressive that eagles still have a bright future when they have cut ties with guys like Mcnabb, Westbrook, Dawkins, both tackles, Andrews, etc. All guys who were key players for their playoff runs. That is really impressive to do this without going through a rebuilding stage.
 
canters;3494287 said:
Philly will go as far as Kolb takes them.

I agree with this. I know it's preseason and safe to say that Jacksonville will be terrible this year, but still, Kolb looked impressive from what I saw, and seems to have a gunslinger type of arm. Very dangerous with those receivers. And Vick looks more like the Vick of old, at least with his feet, than he did last year. If this team does anything on defense, they could be very dangerous. I'd love to believe that they are falling back this year, but I for one am not sleeping on the Ea girls.

:starspin
 

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