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wow that's insane. They have so much and yet they dont appreciate life... i wonder what could have driven him to do that, specially take his childs life.
Chris Benoit found dead... RIP
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calico;1537768 said:
I'm just assuming and jumping to conclusions, but it would make sense that killing his wife was pure cold hate, while everything afterwards was a mental disorder. I'm only guessing because if it was all hate, i suspect all three would have been killed the same day.
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From insideprowrestling.com:
It is being reported he suffocated his wife and son, perhaps a day apart. And then hung himself. Late Sunday night, he sent a strange text message to a person within the WWE. The police broke into the house at 2:30 pm Monday and found them in separate rooms.
Vince called all the wrestlers backstage this afternoon for an emergency meeting. Wrestler were already bawling and crying. A longtime WWE wrestler said it was the most emotional state he’s ever seen the wrestlers.
There was a really uneasy feeling Sunday. Everybody felt something was wrong.
One wrestler said “It was bound to happen”. There was a strong suspicion backstage that Benoit did this right away. There was also a suspicion that Nancy had done it. They had a volatile relationship and everyone knew it.
Hardly anybody backstage really knew Benoit. He had a very small inner circle that one time included Eddy Guerrero and recently included Chavo Guerrero. But even they had a certain psychological distance from Benoit. Everyone could tell that something wasn’t right lately with Benoit.
Chris was a very nice and pleasant person to be around, but a person close to Benoit said that Chris had “snap potential”.
A lot of steroids were found in the Benoit household, and Benoit has had bouts with “roid rages”. WWE may suffer publicly because of their unenforced “Wellness Policy”.
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Depending on how tightly certain people guard Chris’ privacy, you should not be surprised to hear stories about how Benoit’s troubles at home were not exactly a well-kept secret over the past few weeks, to the point that co-workers were worried.
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Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer is reporting that an anonymous source within the police department, Chris was found dead in his weight room; Nancy was found dead in the living room; and Daniel was found dead in his bedroom. The Police Department is working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself on Monday.
WWE.com reported that Benoit sent curious text messages Sunday morning, which concerned friends to alert Richard Hering, WWE’s VP of Government Relations to call Fayette County sheriffs to check the residence. Sources report that Benoit sent the text messages to Chavo Guerrero, one of his close friends.
WWE officials learned of Benoit’s death at 4 p.m. They gathered the wrestlers to the ring area where they were told only of the deaths of Benoit, wife Nancy and son Daniel. They were told the live show was being canceled.
UPDATE: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has more details from the local authorities: Investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend and then himself sometime Monday. “I’m comfortable with our belief that this is a murder-suicide,” Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said Tuesday. The bodies were found in three rooms. Autopsies were planned for Tuesday.
Benoit’s employer, World Wrestling Entertainment, said on its Website Tuesday that Benoit had sent “several curious text messages” to friends, but police on Tuesday said they had identified only one. Fayette Sheriff’s Lt. Tommy Pope on Tuesday confirmed a text message had been sent from Benoit’s cellphone at 4:30 a.m. Saturday, but he decline to disclose the message’s content or recipient.
Benoit was found in the home’s weight room, his wife in an office and his son in an upstairs bedroom.
It is being reported he suffocated his wife and son, perhaps a day apart. And then hung himself. Late Sunday night, he sent a strange text message to a person within the WWE. The police broke into the house at 2:30 pm Monday and found them in separate rooms.
Vince called all the wrestlers backstage this afternoon for an emergency meeting. Wrestler were already bawling and crying. A longtime WWE wrestler said it was the most emotional state he’s ever seen the wrestlers.
There was a really uneasy feeling Sunday. Everybody felt something was wrong.
One wrestler said “It was bound to happen”. There was a strong suspicion backstage that Benoit did this right away. There was also a suspicion that Nancy had done it. They had a volatile relationship and everyone knew it.
Hardly anybody backstage really knew Benoit. He had a very small inner circle that one time included Eddy Guerrero and recently included Chavo Guerrero. But even they had a certain psychological distance from Benoit. Everyone could tell that something wasn’t right lately with Benoit.
Chris was a very nice and pleasant person to be around, but a person close to Benoit said that Chris had “snap potential”.
A lot of steroids were found in the Benoit household, and Benoit has had bouts with “roid rages”. WWE may suffer publicly because of their unenforced “Wellness Policy”.
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Depending on how tightly certain people guard Chris’ privacy, you should not be surprised to hear stories about how Benoit’s troubles at home were not exactly a well-kept secret over the past few weeks, to the point that co-workers were worried.
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Dave Meltzer of the Wrestling Observer is reporting that an anonymous source within the police department, Chris was found dead in his weight room; Nancy was found dead in the living room; and Daniel was found dead in his bedroom. The Police Department is working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself on Monday.
WWE.com reported that Benoit sent curious text messages Sunday morning, which concerned friends to alert Richard Hering, WWE’s VP of Government Relations to call Fayette County sheriffs to check the residence. Sources report that Benoit sent the text messages to Chavo Guerrero, one of his close friends.
WWE officials learned of Benoit’s death at 4 p.m. They gathered the wrestlers to the ring area where they were told only of the deaths of Benoit, wife Nancy and son Daniel. They were told the live show was being canceled.
UPDATE: The Atlanta Journal-Constitution has more details from the local authorities: Investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and son over the weekend and then himself sometime Monday. “I’m comfortable with our belief that this is a murder-suicide,” Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said Tuesday. The bodies were found in three rooms. Autopsies were planned for Tuesday.
Benoit’s employer, World Wrestling Entertainment, said on its Website Tuesday that Benoit had sent “several curious text messages” to friends, but police on Tuesday said they had identified only one. Fayette Sheriff’s Lt. Tommy Pope on Tuesday confirmed a text message had been sent from Benoit’s cellphone at 4:30 a.m. Saturday, but he decline to disclose the message’s content or recipient.
Benoit was found in the home’s weight room, his wife in an office and his son in an upstairs bedroom.
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The WWE needs to do something about the roid abuse or things like this will continue to happen. Between the roids and pain pills some of these wrestlers are on the edge of freaking out.
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Found this on another forum...I have no clue if this is legit or bull.
From TMZ.com
464. My second cousin is an officer with GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigations) and what he's heard in his circle is that Chirs Benoit's wife killed their son Daniel, called Chris and told him to rush home because of an emergency which is why he missed last Sunday's Vengeance PPV. Upon arriving home Benoit killed his wife in a rage for the death of his son and then killed himself Monday morning. His wife's body was found in the master bedroom, strangled with the cord from an alarm clock. The son's body was found in his room appearantly suffocated with a garbage bag. Chris then wrote a suicide note explaining what had happened, apologized to his family, his other children (from a seperate relationship), and his fans. He the fashioned a slip-knot noose from from rope taken from the garage and hung himself from the ballaster in the foyer of his suburban Atlanta home.
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Update*-Started looking on that main site and I am not finding this anywhere but maybe they have a forum or posting section I am missing.
From TMZ.com
464. My second cousin is an officer with GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigations) and what he's heard in his circle is that Chirs Benoit's wife killed their son Daniel, called Chris and told him to rush home because of an emergency which is why he missed last Sunday's Vengeance PPV. Upon arriving home Benoit killed his wife in a rage for the death of his son and then killed himself Monday morning. His wife's body was found in the master bedroom, strangled with the cord from an alarm clock. The son's body was found in his room appearantly suffocated with a garbage bag. Chris then wrote a suicide note explaining what had happened, apologized to his family, his other children (from a seperate relationship), and his fans. He the fashioned a slip-knot noose from from rope taken from the garage and hung himself from the ballaster in the foyer of his suburban Atlanta home.
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Update*-Started looking on that main site and I am not finding this anywhere but maybe they have a forum or posting section I am missing.
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When you pump yourself full of roids for years like these guys do, this stuff is going to happen.
It's just too bad for the child. It's not his fault those around him were abusing drugs.
But since roids are part and parcel of "wrestling", unfortunately this won't be the last incident like this.
It's just too bad for the child. It's not his fault those around him were abusing drugs.
But since roids are part and parcel of "wrestling", unfortunately this won't be the last incident like this.
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Here is the story being reported by the AP:
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Benoit Strangled Wife, Smothered Son
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By GREG BLUESTEIN
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Posted: Today at 12:54 p.m.
Updated: 21 minutes ago
ATLANTA — Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his 7-year-old son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself by the pulley of a weightlifting machine, authorities said Tuesday.
Investigators also found prescription anabolic steroids in the house, Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department. He would not comment on Benoit's state of mind or possible motive.
Autopsies showed all three died of asphyxiation, Pope said.
Benoit's wife, Nancy, was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle, Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said.
The son, Daniel, was likely killed late Saturday or early Sunday, the body found in his bed, Ballard said.
Benoit apparently killed himself several hours and as long as a day later, Ballard said. His body was found in a downstairs weight room, his body found hanging from the pulley of a piece of exercise equipment.
The prosecutor said he found it "bizarre" that the WWE wrestling star spread out the killings over a long weekend and appeared to remain in the house for up to a day with the bodies.
"I'm baffled about why anybody would kill a 7-year-old," Ballard said. "I don't think we'll ever be able wrap our head around that."
Earlier, a law enforcement official speaking on a condition of anonymity said Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son.
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I can't imagine how someone could bring themselves to kill a child. This is just horrible.
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Benoit Strangled Wife, Smothered Son
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By GREG BLUESTEIN
Associated Press Writer
Posted: Today at 12:54 p.m.
Updated: 21 minutes ago
ATLANTA — Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his 7-year-old son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself by the pulley of a weightlifting machine, authorities said Tuesday.
Investigators also found prescription anabolic steroids in the house, Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department. He would not comment on Benoit's state of mind or possible motive.
Autopsies showed all three died of asphyxiation, Pope said.
Benoit's wife, Nancy, was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle, Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said.
The son, Daniel, was likely killed late Saturday or early Sunday, the body found in his bed, Ballard said.
Benoit apparently killed himself several hours and as long as a day later, Ballard said. His body was found in a downstairs weight room, his body found hanging from the pulley of a piece of exercise equipment.
The prosecutor said he found it "bizarre" that the WWE wrestling star spread out the killings over a long weekend and appeared to remain in the house for up to a day with the bodies.
"I'm baffled about why anybody would kill a 7-year-old," Ballard said. "I don't think we'll ever be able wrap our head around that."
Earlier, a law enforcement official speaking on a condition of anonymity said Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son.
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I can't imagine how someone could bring themselves to kill a child. This is just horrible.
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This was posted on WWE's website tonight:
WWE.com learned from an interview conducted Tuesday by Vancouver’s News1130 that Chris Benoit’s son Daniel possibly suffered from Fragile X Syndrome, a genetically passed-on condition that results in impairments ranging from physical and learning disabilities, to more severe cognitive or intellectual disabilities.
In the interview with News1130, Pam Winthrope, whose own 12-year-old son suffers from Fragile X Syndrome, recounted how she and her husband talked to Benoit about the condition five years ago.
“We talked to him because I was trying to set up a support group in B.C. and in Canada; we only have a couple of them,” she said. “My husband was struggling when we got diagnosed with our son, and Chris was struggling with his. They talked for a few minutes, and then he said he didn’t want to be a public face for Fragile X. He just wanted to keep it really, really quiet.”
A source close to Benoit recalls similar conversations with him, where he described his son’s condition as “a learning disability much like autism.” This source quotes Benoit as saying “Daniel wasn’t capable of interacting with other children and was afraid of other children. Daniel also had a hard time making eye contact with everyone, which was another symptom of his disability.” Benoit also claimed that his son was on medication for this condition.
Winthrope discussed the pressures facing parents of children diagnosed with Fragile X syndrome. During her interview with News1130, she stated that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. Winthrope added, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy -- they don't tell you."
A co-worker and long-time friend of the Benoits speculates that perhaps the pressures of home and Daniel’s illness had gotten to him, causing him to snap and take the lives of his wife and son before taking his own.
“Is it possible that after Chris killed Nancy (for whatever reason), he felt Daniel wouldn't be able to get the care and attention he required as a special needs child (if that is indeed true) with no mother and a father either in jail or dead? Did he then decide that the only way he could protect and take care of his son was to take him to the next world and go with him? In his warped and twisted state, did he think this was the only way to shield his son from a difficult life of pain and hardship? It doesn't condone or justify a damn thing, but it's the best reason I can think of. I'm trying to put together some semblance of logic for his actions, but it's an impossible task trying to explain this.”
WWE.com learned from an interview conducted Tuesday by Vancouver’s News1130 that Chris Benoit’s son Daniel possibly suffered from Fragile X Syndrome, a genetically passed-on condition that results in impairments ranging from physical and learning disabilities, to more severe cognitive or intellectual disabilities.
In the interview with News1130, Pam Winthrope, whose own 12-year-old son suffers from Fragile X Syndrome, recounted how she and her husband talked to Benoit about the condition five years ago.
“We talked to him because I was trying to set up a support group in B.C. and in Canada; we only have a couple of them,” she said. “My husband was struggling when we got diagnosed with our son, and Chris was struggling with his. They talked for a few minutes, and then he said he didn’t want to be a public face for Fragile X. He just wanted to keep it really, really quiet.”
A source close to Benoit recalls similar conversations with him, where he described his son’s condition as “a learning disability much like autism.” This source quotes Benoit as saying “Daniel wasn’t capable of interacting with other children and was afraid of other children. Daniel also had a hard time making eye contact with everyone, which was another symptom of his disability.” Benoit also claimed that his son was on medication for this condition.
Winthrope discussed the pressures facing parents of children diagnosed with Fragile X syndrome. During her interview with News1130, she stated that families can be torn apart by the disease because it's very difficult to find help and support. Winthrope added, "You as a parent have to go out there and find what's available and it's not easy -- they don't tell you."
A co-worker and long-time friend of the Benoits speculates that perhaps the pressures of home and Daniel’s illness had gotten to him, causing him to snap and take the lives of his wife and son before taking his own.
“Is it possible that after Chris killed Nancy (for whatever reason), he felt Daniel wouldn't be able to get the care and attention he required as a special needs child (if that is indeed true) with no mother and a father either in jail or dead? Did he then decide that the only way he could protect and take care of his son was to take him to the next world and go with him? In his warped and twisted state, did he think this was the only way to shield his son from a difficult life of pain and hardship? It doesn't condone or justify a damn thing, but it's the best reason I can think of. I'm trying to put together some semblance of logic for his actions, but it's an impossible task trying to explain this.”
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Or he was crazy as a **** HOUSE RAT
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The Real Mavs Man;1539821 said:
I have a special needs daughter,and it takes a lot of time, care, love and responsibilty. I am not rich, and times are not always easy. These kids show you love and you must show them love and protect them in return. I can understand the stress involved, but he had to have been mentally unbalanced to do this. He had other steps he could have taken instead of committing murder. My sympathy goes out to the family of Chris and the family of his deceased wife. His cowardly act also affected his family members as well as the outside world that only really new him as a wrestler.
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Wikipedia posting is eerie twist in Benoit case
Web site posting referred to wife's death 14 hours before cops found her
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Updated: 7:39 p.m. CT June 27, 2007
ATLANTA - Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit’s Wikipedia entry to mention his wife’s death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.
Benoit’s Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife’s death.
A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.
An IP address, a unique series of numbers carried by every machine connected to the Internet, does not necessarily have to be broadcast from where it is registered. The bodies were found in Benoit’s home in suburban Atlanta, and it’s not known where the posting was sent from, Bass said.
Benoit strangled his wife and son during the weekend, placing Bibles next to their bodies, before hanging himself on the cable of a weight-machine in his home, authorities said. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.
Also Thursday, federal drug agents said they had raided the west Georgia office of a doctor who prescribed testosterone to Benoit.
The raid at Dr. Phil Astin’s office in Carrollton began Wednesday night and concluded early Thursday, said agent Chuvalo Truesdell, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration. No arrests were made.
Hours before the raid, Astin told The Associated Press he had treated Benoit for low testosterone levels, which he said likely originated from previous steroid use.
Among other things, investigators were looking for Benoit’s medical records to see whether he had been prescribed steroids and, if so, whether that prescription was appropriate, according to a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because records in the case remain sealed.
Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office Friday.
State medical records show that Astin’s privileges were suspended for three months in 2001 at a Georgia hospital for “reasons related to competence or character.”
Astin did not return calls to his cell phone from the AP on Thursday.
Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit’s home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as “roid rage.”
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said in a statement Thursday that he could not immediately comment on the raid.
Benoit’s page on Wikipedia, a reference site that allows users to add and edit information, was updated at 12:01 a.m. Monday, about 14 hours before authorities say the bodies were found. The reason he missed a match Saturday night was “stemming from the death of his wife Nancy,” it said.
Reporters informed the Fayette County district attorney’s office of the posting Thursday, and the agency forwarded the information to sheriff’s investigators, who are looking into it, a legal assistant said in an e-mail to the AP.
WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt said that to his knowledge, no one at the WWE knew Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday afternoon. Text messages released by officials show that messages from Chris Benoit’s cell phone were being sent to co-workers a few hours after the Wikipedia posting.
WWE employees are given WWE e-mail addresses, McDevitt said, though he did not know whether Chris Benoit had one.
“I have no idea who posted this,” McDevitt said. “It’s at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we’re unaware of. We don’t know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities.”
On Thursday afternoon, the Wikipedia page about Benoit carried a note stating that editing by unregistered or newly registered users was disabled until July 8 because of vandalism.
In other developments Thursday, Ballard told the AP that 10 empty beer cans were found in a trash can in the Benoit home. An empty wine bottle was found a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself, Ballard said.
It could take several weeks for toxicology tests to be completed on Benoit to see what substances, if any, were in his system.
Benoit took four months off from work in 2006 for undisclosed personal reasons, McDevitt said.
“He was feeling depressed, that kind of thing,” McDevitt said.
In the days before the killings, Benoit and his wife argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally ******** 7-year-old son, according to an attorney for the WWE wrestling league.
The child had a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism.
Chris Benoit’s father, Michael Benoit, declined to comment on the slayings when reached Thursday by telephone in Alberta, Canada. Funeral arrangements were incomplete.
© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Web site posting referred to wife's death 14 hours before cops found her
The Associated Press
Updated: 7:39 p.m. CT June 27, 2007
ATLANTA - Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit’s Wikipedia entry to mention his wife’s death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.
Benoit’s Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife’s death.
A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.
An IP address, a unique series of numbers carried by every machine connected to the Internet, does not necessarily have to be broadcast from where it is registered. The bodies were found in Benoit’s home in suburban Atlanta, and it’s not known where the posting was sent from, Bass said.
Benoit strangled his wife and son during the weekend, placing Bibles next to their bodies, before hanging himself on the cable of a weight-machine in his home, authorities said. No motive was offered for the killings, which were discovered Monday.
Also Thursday, federal drug agents said they had raided the west Georgia office of a doctor who prescribed testosterone to Benoit.
The raid at Dr. Phil Astin’s office in Carrollton began Wednesday night and concluded early Thursday, said agent Chuvalo Truesdell, a spokesman for the Drug Enforcement Administration. No arrests were made.
Hours before the raid, Astin told The Associated Press he had treated Benoit for low testosterone levels, which he said likely originated from previous steroid use.
Among other things, investigators were looking for Benoit’s medical records to see whether he had been prescribed steroids and, if so, whether that prescription was appropriate, according to a law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity because records in the case remain sealed.
Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past but would not say what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office Friday.
State medical records show that Astin’s privileges were suspended for three months in 2001 at a Georgia hospital for “reasons related to competence or character.”
Astin did not return calls to his cell phone from the AP on Thursday.
Anabolic steroids were found in Benoit’s home, leading officials to wonder whether the drugs played a role in the killings. Some experts believe steroids cause paranoia, depression and violent outbursts known as “roid rage.”
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said in a statement Thursday that he could not immediately comment on the raid.
Benoit’s page on Wikipedia, a reference site that allows users to add and edit information, was updated at 12:01 a.m. Monday, about 14 hours before authorities say the bodies were found. The reason he missed a match Saturday night was “stemming from the death of his wife Nancy,” it said.
Reporters informed the Fayette County district attorney’s office of the posting Thursday, and the agency forwarded the information to sheriff’s investigators, who are looking into it, a legal assistant said in an e-mail to the AP.
WWE attorney Jerry McDevitt said that to his knowledge, no one at the WWE knew Nancy Benoit was dead before her body was found Monday afternoon. Text messages released by officials show that messages from Chris Benoit’s cell phone were being sent to co-workers a few hours after the Wikipedia posting.
WWE employees are given WWE e-mail addresses, McDevitt said, though he did not know whether Chris Benoit had one.
“I have no idea who posted this,” McDevitt said. “It’s at least possible Chris may have sent some other text message to someone that we’re unaware of. We don’t know if he did. The phone is in the possession of authorities.”
On Thursday afternoon, the Wikipedia page about Benoit carried a note stating that editing by unregistered or newly registered users was disabled until July 8 because of vandalism.
In other developments Thursday, Ballard told the AP that 10 empty beer cans were found in a trash can in the Benoit home. An empty wine bottle was found a few feet from where Benoit hanged himself, Ballard said.
It could take several weeks for toxicology tests to be completed on Benoit to see what substances, if any, were in his system.
Benoit took four months off from work in 2006 for undisclosed personal reasons, McDevitt said.
“He was feeling depressed, that kind of thing,” McDevitt said.
In the days before the killings, Benoit and his wife argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their mentally ******** 7-year-old son, according to an attorney for the WWE wrestling league.
The child had a rare medical condition called Fragile X Syndrome, an inherited form of mental retardation often accompanied by autism.
Chris Benoit’s father, Michael Benoit, declined to comment on the slayings when reached Thursday by telephone in Alberta, Canada. Funeral arrangements were incomplete.
© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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Faerluna;1540530 said:
This whole thing is bizarre ...... I am sure that Benoit did these horrible things. But Noone knows anything for sure yet.
1. Someone reported Nancy was dead 14 hours before cops found the bodies on wikipedia.
2. Crazy text messages were being sent hours before the cops found the bodies.
3. Growth Hormones, steroids, bibles, reports that Benoits hands were bound..... crazy stuff.
The Autopsy and Blood reports are not even back yet ..... and everyone is already sure he is the Roid Rage Murderer.
Like I said .... I am sure it is what it appears to be ..... but I am gonna wait to see what really happens.
This whole situation gives me a creepy feeling.
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zrinkill;1540582 said:
No joke. Not to mention the awkwardness of WWe doing a 3 hour tribute to him, just to come back the next night and apologize and say they were never mentioning his name again.
WWe has even deleted all record of him off their ShopZone I read in one article. Even deleting mention of him in DVD descriptions to the point where it doesn't mention he was in the match.
We'll never know what exactly happened (we'll have a good idea at some point) but I'd personally like to find out more details on what would make somebody do something like that.
This whole situation is weird, the only words that can describe it are bizarre and tragic.
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http://www.torontosun.com/News/Canada/2007/06/29/4299824-sun.html
'FREAK'
Bruce Hart says killer Benoit had trouble with reality
By STEVE SIMMONS
Chris Benoit was a "delusional juice freak" who chased the dark side and had trouble distinguishing between his fictional character and reality, says the man who started him out in professional wrestling.
"The last time I saw him he was in pretty rough shape mentally," said Bruce Hart, son of the legendary Stu Hart. "I didn't know all the details but I knew it wasn't good. I was not at all shocked (by what happened).
"If I could see and determine that in a few visits, how the hell could they (World Wrestling Entertainment) not have known something was wrong? (In my opinion) I think the WWE needs to re-evaluate what it is doing here."
Hart will not simplify the shocking murder of Benoit's wife and 7-year-old son or the eventual suicide of the wrestler by attributing it only to steroid usage. But he truly believes that steroid abuse, in combination with delusional behaviour, painkillers and failing health -- "almost all the people we started out with (who did steroids) began breaking down around 40," Hart said -- is a deadly cocktail that needs to be further examined.
"I've known too many wrestlers who couldn't separate the character they play on television from their real life," said Hart, who has wrestled professionally, promoted wrestling and trained wrestlers all his life.
"Wrestlers start believing their press clippings and what is said on television. It's like an actor leaving the set but still playing the part. There's a delusional element to this. I've seen it over and over again. Some people can't separate the character from real life, and Chris was one of those people.
"From my experience, that has been quite prevalent with wrestlers and that becomes exacerbated by steroids, drugs, painkillers and failing health."
They hadn't seen each other much over the past few years, with Hart still in Calgary and Benoit working the circuit. "We saw each other mostly at funerals," Hart said. "At my brother's (Owen), my dad's, my brother-in-law's (Davey Boy Smith). Not that long ago I was talking to Hillbilly Jim and we were reminiscing a little. I told him I was worried about Chris."
While the WWE has a drug-testing policy, Hart believes they should bring in psychologists and physicians to evaluate not only their drug-testing procedures but how they treat their athletes, deal with them, and the toll their gimmicks take on the lives of their performers.
"Imagine if Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux and Mark Messier were all dead in their 40s. Imagine what the reaction would be?" Hart asked. "There would be investigations and more investigations. Wouldn't people want to know what happened and why?"
Hart was also deeply angered that the WWE aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit on Monday night.
"I kept hearing 'He was a nice guy, a great guy' and I knew him when he was a kid. But all I know now is he's a murderer," Hart said. In my opinion, "for them to do a tribute show was disgraceful."
Officials at WWE Canada refused to comment yesterday.
WWE owner Vince McMahon told NBC Today Show viewers yesterday that "steroids may or may not have had anything to do with this. It's all speculation until the toxicology reports come back."
Hart did wonder if Benoit had been given an unfavourable medical report, which may been another factor in his violent behaviour. "A lot of the steroid users start getting liver and kidney problems around the age of 40," Hart said. "There are a lot of wrestlers out there who are dead that you never heard about whose bodies broke down. I've known others who had looming health issues and went a little crazy. Maybe this caused him to go off."
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Bruce Hart says killer Benoit had trouble with reality
By STEVE SIMMONS
Chris Benoit was a "delusional juice freak" who chased the dark side and had trouble distinguishing between his fictional character and reality, says the man who started him out in professional wrestling.
"The last time I saw him he was in pretty rough shape mentally," said Bruce Hart, son of the legendary Stu Hart. "I didn't know all the details but I knew it wasn't good. I was not at all shocked (by what happened).
"If I could see and determine that in a few visits, how the hell could they (World Wrestling Entertainment) not have known something was wrong? (In my opinion) I think the WWE needs to re-evaluate what it is doing here."
Hart will not simplify the shocking murder of Benoit's wife and 7-year-old son or the eventual suicide of the wrestler by attributing it only to steroid usage. But he truly believes that steroid abuse, in combination with delusional behaviour, painkillers and failing health -- "almost all the people we started out with (who did steroids) began breaking down around 40," Hart said -- is a deadly cocktail that needs to be further examined.
"I've known too many wrestlers who couldn't separate the character they play on television from their real life," said Hart, who has wrestled professionally, promoted wrestling and trained wrestlers all his life.
"Wrestlers start believing their press clippings and what is said on television. It's like an actor leaving the set but still playing the part. There's a delusional element to this. I've seen it over and over again. Some people can't separate the character from real life, and Chris was one of those people.
"From my experience, that has been quite prevalent with wrestlers and that becomes exacerbated by steroids, drugs, painkillers and failing health."
They hadn't seen each other much over the past few years, with Hart still in Calgary and Benoit working the circuit. "We saw each other mostly at funerals," Hart said. "At my brother's (Owen), my dad's, my brother-in-law's (Davey Boy Smith). Not that long ago I was talking to Hillbilly Jim and we were reminiscing a little. I told him I was worried about Chris."
While the WWE has a drug-testing policy, Hart believes they should bring in psychologists and physicians to evaluate not only their drug-testing procedures but how they treat their athletes, deal with them, and the toll their gimmicks take on the lives of their performers.
"Imagine if Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux and Mark Messier were all dead in their 40s. Imagine what the reaction would be?" Hart asked. "There would be investigations and more investigations. Wouldn't people want to know what happened and why?"
Hart was also deeply angered that the WWE aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit on Monday night.
"I kept hearing 'He was a nice guy, a great guy' and I knew him when he was a kid. But all I know now is he's a murderer," Hart said. In my opinion, "for them to do a tribute show was disgraceful."
Officials at WWE Canada refused to comment yesterday.
WWE owner Vince McMahon told NBC Today Show viewers yesterday that "steroids may or may not have had anything to do with this. It's all speculation until the toxicology reports come back."
Hart did wonder if Benoit had been given an unfavourable medical report, which may been another factor in his violent behaviour. "A lot of the steroid users start getting liver and kidney problems around the age of 40," Hart said. "There are a lot of wrestlers out there who are dead that you never heard about whose bodies broke down. I've known others who had looming health issues and went a little crazy. Maybe this caused him to go off."
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Uh, this story is getting wierder and wierder.
Has anyone else heard the rumor that "Scary" Sherry Martel died the same day? She's supposedly the girlfriend of Kevin Sullivan, who was the husband of Nancy Benoit that Chris stole her away from.
I saw a blurb about this on the TV while at lunch, a replay of Geraldo Rivera on Bill O'reilly's show last night.
I'm not joking about this, if you were to ask me which wrestler I thought could be a multiple murderer between Sullivan and Benoit, my answer would be Sullivan without hesitation. He always played a Satanist character who talked about tying his opponents to the "tree of woe" and making them observe their worst nightmares.
Now, I'm not saying he killed all of them and made Benoit watch as he did it (tied to the tree of woe) before killing him too, but it makes me wonder. Benoit probably did it, and Martel's death at the same time is a coincidence, but it's an awfully strange coincidence given the cross stories of adultery and hatred between Sullivan and Benoit.
Has anyone else heard the rumor that "Scary" Sherry Martel died the same day? She's supposedly the girlfriend of Kevin Sullivan, who was the husband of Nancy Benoit that Chris stole her away from.
I saw a blurb about this on the TV while at lunch, a replay of Geraldo Rivera on Bill O'reilly's show last night.
I'm not joking about this, if you were to ask me which wrestler I thought could be a multiple murderer between Sullivan and Benoit, my answer would be Sullivan without hesitation. He always played a Satanist character who talked about tying his opponents to the "tree of woe" and making them observe their worst nightmares.
Now, I'm not saying he killed all of them and made Benoit watch as he did it (tied to the tree of woe) before killing him too, but it makes me wonder. Benoit probably did it, and Martel's death at the same time is a coincidence, but it's an awfully strange coincidence given the cross stories of adultery and hatred between Sullivan and Benoit.