Chris Carter on our Offense

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I'm paraphrasing a bit because he had a lot to say this morning but here are the highlights.

  1. These guys (WRs) are role players. I don't expect them to have the route saaviness to make route adjustments. (he eluded to none of our WRs being a marquee name)
  2. The Cowboys don't have the flexibility to be able to get out of a bad play and make route adjustments.
  3. The receivers don't have the flexility to adjust their route on the fly.
  4. Dak doesn't have the flexibility to adjust when the called defense on the other side is better than their called offense. It's not available for him.
  5. There's a reason why WRs have such a difficult time adjusting to playing in New England. All of their routes are built to adjust at the line based upon the coverage.
Hearing this from Chris Carter today when responding to the Allen Hurns comments further cements it for me. Linehan is a six feet under man walking. I'm trying not to make this about our HCIT (head coach in training)...

Chris Carter's comments are a direct indictment of Scott Linehan.
 
Bleu Star said:
I'm paraphrasing a bit because he had a lot to say this morning but here are the highlights.

  1. These guys (WRs) are role players. I don't expect them to have the route saaviness to make route adjustments. (he eluded to none of our WRs being a marquee name)
  2. The Cowboys don't have the flexibility to be able to get out of a bad play and make route adjustments.
  3. The receivers don't have the flexility to adjust their route on the fly.
  4. Dak doesn't have the flexibility to adjust when the called defense on the other side is better than their called offense. It's not available for him.
  5. There's a reason why WRs have such a difficult time adjusting to playing in New England. All of their routes are built to adjust at the line based upon the coverage.
Hearing this from Chris Carter today when responding to the Allen Hurns comments further cements it for me. Linehan is a six feet under man walking. I'm trying not to make this about our HCIT (head coach in training)...

Chris Carter's comments are a direct indictment of Scott Linehan.
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More comments and observations to add the the mile high list of examples and indictments we already have.

Thanks for taking the time and effort to recap.
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I like what Troy Aikman said earlier this week. He had several suggestions:

1. Get to the line and run the dang play! Troy said even when Romo was here, there’s way too much pre-snap chatter and changes. Stop making 3-4 pre-snap changes EVERY PLAY.

2. Dak needs to get the ball out quicker. Plain and simple, he’s holding onto the ball too long while waiting for the perfect route to develop. His accuracy needs to improve, and it can if he gets the ball out quicker.

3. Allow Dak to run more. Too often, Dak is staying too long in the pocket waiting for a route to develop, when he could actually pick up a first down by simply running himself.

4. Dak is thinking way too much. There is a lot of mental aspects to being a QB, but it is possible to over-think it too. Dak is a good athlete. He doesn’t have the best, most accurate arm in the league. But he’s playing way worse than he should be. He is capable of doing a lot more than he’s been showing.
 
Bleu Star said:
I'm paraphrasing a bit because he had a lot to say this morning but here are the highlights.

  1. These guys (WRs) are role players. I don't expect them to have the route saaviness to make route adjustments. (he eluded to none of our WRs being a marquee name)
  2. The Cowboys don't have the flexibility to be able to get out of a bad play and make route adjustments.
  3. The receivers don't have the flexility to adjust their route on the fly.
  4. Dak doesn't have the flexibility to adjust when the called defense on the other side is better than their called offense. It's not available for him.
  5. There's a reason why WRs have such a difficult time adjusting to playing in New England. All of their routes are built to adjust at the line based upon the coverage.
Hearing this from Chris Carter today when responding to the Allen Hurns comments further cements it for me. Linehan is a six feet under man walking. I'm trying not to make this about our HCIT (head coach in training)...

Chris Carter's comments are a direct indictment of Scott Linehan.
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I generalize to a point on the Patriot Way:
Churning 2nd tier WRs may only work if you've got a QB who can make all the throws, and a QB and WRs who can make all the adjustments.

It's to hear about all the adjustments between QB and WR that we *don't* make now.

That was the mark of Garrett's early passing game. It used to cause us problems too. The dreaded lack of "synch" between Romo and the WRs. Maybe if we had had fewer "athletes" and jerk offs, it would have worked better. One thing about old Randy Moss - not just a physical freak, but a smart dude too.
 
Bobhaze said:
I like what Troy Aikman said earlier this week. He had several suggestions:

1. Get to the line and run the dang play! Troy said even when Romo was here, there’s way too much pre-snap chatter and changes. Stop making 3-4 pre-snap changes EVERY PLAY.

2. Dak needs to get the ball out quicker. Plain and simple, he’s holding onto the ball too long while waiting for the perfect route to develop. His accuracy needs to improve, and it can if he gets the ball out quicker.

3. Allow Dak to run more. Too often, Dak is staying too long in the pocket waiting for a route to develop, when he could actually pick up a first down by simply running himself.

4. Dak is thinking way too much. There is a lot of mental aspects to being a QB, but it is possible to over-think it too. Dak is a good athlete. He doesn’t have the best, most accurate arm in the league. But he’s playing way worse than he should be. He is capable of doing a lot more than he’s been showing.
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Never fear! We hired the water boy to coach up Dak!
 
Bob why not just get a good qb. Why change the whole team to make a backup an average to below average qb.
 
so what are we going to do. Pick up some wr's so Dak can't see them either. He slow on reads, has no internal clock, panic when pressured or not even pressured. Hesitant to throw the ball, so how is any quarterback coach going to fix this. Scheme, like what.
 
Not buying the wide receiver excuse anymore.

Sure, they aren't superstars and they don't have big time names on the back of their jerseys but they are indeed getting open enough for this offense to be successful. Dak just isn't getting them the ball.

I like Dak. He seems like a good guy and he does have some leadership qualities. The fact is that he is just too limited as a pure passer to seriously be considered for the position long-term.

I've had issues with Linehan and his play calls but what is he supposed to do? His quarterback either won't throw the ball or can't hit open receivers almost at all, much less consistently. The only suggestion I've seen that might work out better is to have Dak run more but that's really just putting lipstick on a pig. We are still going to have to pass.

What I'm wondering is what is going on in the film room after these games when the coaches sit down and watch it.
 
Bleu Star said:
I'm paraphrasing a bit because he had a lot to say this morning but here are the highlights.

  1. These guys (WRs) are role players. I don't expect them to have the route saaviness to make route adjustments. (he eluded to none of our WRs being a marquee name)
  2. The Cowboys don't have the flexibility to be able to get out of a bad play and make route adjustments.
  3. The receivers don't have the flexility to adjust their route on the fly.
  4. Dak doesn't have the flexibility to adjust when the called defense on the other side is better than their called offense. It's not available for him.
  5. There's a reason why WRs have such a difficult time adjusting to playing in New England. All of their routes are built to adjust at the line based upon the coverage.
Hearing this from Chris Carter today when responding to the Allen Hurns comments further cements it for me. Linehan is a six feet under man walking. I'm trying not to make this about our HCIT (head coach in training)...

Chris Carter's comments are a direct indictment of Scott Linehan.
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except that Romo, Dez, Witten, and Beasley managed to put up a lot of yards and TDs with the same horrible coaches.
 
Bleu Star said:
I'm paraphrasing a bit because he had a lot to say this morning but here are the highlights.

  1. These guys (WRs) are role players. I don't expect them to have the route saaviness to make route adjustments. (he eluded to none of our WRs being a marquee name)
  2. The Cowboys don't have the flexibility to be able to get out of a bad play and make route adjustments.
  3. The receivers don't have the flexility to adjust their route on the fly.
  4. Dak doesn't have the flexibility to adjust when the called defense on the other side is better than their called offense. It's not available for him.
  5. There's a reason why WRs have such a difficult time adjusting to playing in New England. All of their routes are built to adjust at the line based upon the coverage.
Hearing this from Chris Carter today when responding to the Allen Hurns comments further cements it for me. Linehan is a six feet under man walking. I'm trying not to make this about our HCIT (head coach in training)...

Chris Carter's comments are a direct indictment of Scott Linehan.
Click to expand...
Leinehan is running Garrett's offense. So this is on Garrett
 
Captain-Crash said:
so what are we going to do. Pick up some wr's so Dak can't see them either. He slow on reads, has no internal clock, panic when pressured or not even pressured. Hesitant to throw the ball, so how is any quarterback coach going to fix this. Scheme, like what.
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Specifically, they've got to work on his timing in practice. Break this terrible habit of the "perfect look" he's got in his head. Stand there and shout "ball's out!" or "throw the ball!" if you have to, whatever it takes to reinforce to him that he has this much time to make a decision and a throw. It's "football for dummies" level stuff, but that's apparently who we're dealing with here, so things have to be really basic.

There was an interesting comment made during a recent Romo appearance on the CBS set. They talked about Parcells essentially telling Simms to throw two interceptions. And what it meant was to not be overly worried about them resulting in being too conservative. I think the same should be said to Dak in an effort to have him turn it loose more. He needs to trust the play, trust the receiver, and most of all, trust himself. I think he's so overly concerned with not making mistakes that he doesn't make any plays either. And his indecision is what gives defenders the time they need to react to what's happening and the few interceptions he has thrown.

It's funny but it seems like we've gone from a quarterback in Romo who sometimes took too many chance to a quarterback in Dak who's afraid to take any.
 
Bobhaze said:
I like what Troy Aikman said earlier this week. He had several suggestions:

1. Get to the line and run the dang play! Troy said even when Romo was here, there’s way too much pre-snap chatter and changes. Stop making 3-4 pre-snap changes EVERY PLAY.

2. Dak needs to get the ball out quicker. Plain and simple, he’s holding onto the ball too long while waiting for the perfect route to develop. His accuracy needs to improve, and it can if he gets the ball out quicker.

3. Allow Dak to run more. Too often, Dak is staying too long in the pocket waiting for a route to develop, when he could actually pick up a first down by simply running himself.

4. Dak is thinking way too much. There is a lot of mental aspects to being a QB, but it is possible to over-think it too. Dak is a good athlete. He doesn’t have the best, most accurate arm in the league. But he’s playing way worse than he should be. He is capable of doing a lot more than he’s been showing.
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Dak seemed to have pretty good success when he just ran the play in his first year here . I think Garrett kind of appreciated Dak running the play that was called .

Now I wonder since Dak has the ability to change plays are the Defenses baiting him into changing to what they want to defend .
I would like to see Dak run a bit more make the defense have to spy him and use up personnel.

Dak can play much better we see the flashes he just needs the coaching to help him right now and we don't have it He looked much better with Romo and Sanchez coaching him on the sidelines
 
Bobhaze said:
Because we can’t get a new QB right now. Maybe next season, but we’re talking about what we can do right now. Last time I checked, there aren’t any franchise QBs sitting around waiting for a phone call.
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Who’s the franchise qb available next year? The draft? Who’s a can’t miss prospect we have a good shot at?
 
stasheroo said:
Specifically, they've got to work on his timing in practice. Break this terrible habit of the "perfect look" he's got in his head. Stand there and shout "ball's out!" or "throw the ball!" if you have to, whatever it takes to reinforce to him that he has this much time to make a decision and a throw. It's "football for dummies" level stuff, but that's apparently who we're dealing with here, so things have to be really basic.

There was an interesting comment made during a recent Romo appearance on the CBS set. They talked about Parcells essentially telling Simms to throw two interceptions. And what it meant was to not be overly worried about them resulting in being too conservative. I think the same should be said to Dak in an effort to have him turn it loose more. He needs to trust the play, trust the receiver, and most of all, trust himself. I think he's so overly concerned with not making mistakes that he doesn't make any plays either. And his indecision is what gives defenders the time they need to react to what's happening and the few interceptions he has thrown.

It's funny but it seems like we've gone from a quarterback in Romo who sometimes took too many chance to a quarterback in Dak who's afraid to take any.
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I agree he has to get the ball out and stop waiting for the perfect look but our receivers are so inconsistent they have tipped 4 balls for INTs just this season . I think its making him gunshy to just let it rip in the real game .

He may do it in practice but then when it matters I think he gets worried and his receivers are not helping him have the confidence he needs to just let it go .

The whole thing has snowballed into a mess . A receiver like Hopkins that catches anything that touches his finger tips would go a long way in curing his apprehension and indecision IMO
 
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