Chris Henry Release... Could It Impact Pacman?

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I can't help but lump the 2 together since they were kind of co-poster boys for the Goodell boot out the door and both have that West Virginia conenction as well.

So I'm wondering as I sit here this morning what is going through the minds at the Titans front office this morning as they see yet another scrape send Henry to the homeless lines of the NFL.

Think it could motivate them a bit to see yet another instance of a player in troubel who just doesn't get it? They might even think they are dumping their problem on us.

Just speculating.
 

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I think the titans just lost the small amount of leverage they had.

If I am Jerry I take my offer off the table and let them deal with the problem of what to do.

then after he is released just sign him. He only wants to be in Dallas so just wait out the titans.

I cant imagine anyone else would risk a pacman jones on there team, especially now that henry proves once again these guys never change.
 

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Hostile;2023799 said:
I can't help but lump the 2 together since they were kind of co-poster boys for the Goodell boot out the door and both have that West Virginia conenction as well.

So I'm wondering as I sit here this morning what is going through the minds at the Titans front office this morning as they see yet another scrape send Henry to the homeless lines of the NFL.

Think it could motivate them a bit to see yet another instance of a player in troubel who just doesn't get it? They might even think they are dumping their problem on us.

Just speculating.

It's certainly possible.

But honestly, I'm having trouble understanding the Titans' thinking on this whole deal.

I think that both their asking price and clear attempts to generate a market where one does not exist have been hard for me to figure out.

It looks to me like they're being unreasonable given all circumstances and I'm wondering if there are other factors involved. Factors like Bud Adams having a grudge against Texas' NFL team and using this deal to 'stick it' to the Cowboys.
 

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stasheroo;2023804 said:
It's certainly possible.

But honestly, I'm having trouble understanding the Titans' thinking on this whole deal.

I think that both their asking price and clear attempts to generate a market where one does not exist have been hard for me to figure out.

It looks to be like they're being unreasonable given all circumstances and I'm wondering if there are other factors involved. Factors like Bud Adams having a grudge against Texas' NFL team and using this deal to 'stick it' to the Cowboys.

Well Bud can only stick it to us if we allow him to do so. Tenn wants to get rid of Pacman so let them. If Pacman truely wants to be a Cowboy as he said then he can come see us after Tenn cuts him.
 

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I think the Titans are going to hold this ridiculous demand for as long as humanly possible, they have until July to make a decision

what happened, Hos, I thought the PacMan deal was supposed to have been done already? ;)
 

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its pretty obvious to me that Bud Adams is calling the shots on this and I do not expect any rational decisions from them.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2023809 said:
I think the Titans are going to hold this ridiculous demand for as long as humanly possible, they have until July to make a decision

what happened, Hos, I thought the PacMan deal was supposed to have been done already? ;)
Learn to read. The entire context of that thread said it was my opinion and it could still fall through. It was what I expected, but it didn't happen. Big deal.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2023809 said:
I think the Titans are going to hold this ridiculous demand for as long as humanly possible, they have until July to make a decision

what happened, Hos, I thought the PacMan deal was supposed to have been done already? ;)

Well, if they want any draft picks this year, the clock is ticking.

In a few weeks, their chances for compensation diminish some.

I'm leaning towards offering a conditional draft choice next year based on Jones' performance (or lack thereof).

Offer a conditional pick next year ranging from a 6th rounder to a 4th rounder based on production. But if he doesn't play for the Cowboys, there is no draft pick changing hands.

And give them a 5th rounder this year for 'allowing the Cowboys to take the risk'.
 

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stasheroo;2023816 said:
Well, if they want any draft picks this year, the clock is ticking.

In a few weeks, their chances for compensation diminish some.

I'm leaning towards offering a conditional draft choice next year based on Jones' performance (or lack thereof).

Offer a conditional pick next year ranging from a 6th rounder to a 4th rounder based on production. But if he doesn't play for the Cowboys, there is no draft pick changing hands.

And give them a 5th rounder this year for 'allowing the Cowboys to take the risk'.

I don't think what the Titans are asking for is that bad, it's just unreasonable given the cirucmstances

but of course I'm amped about the idea of acquiring him
 

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Oh btw do you guys know any Titans boards worth a flip? Ive only found gotitans and they dont seem very bright over there and the others have almost no traffic.
 

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Henry's release should show them that they are lucky that they are getting anything for Pacman. Most teams have to just cut their mistakes.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2023819 said:
I don't think what the Titans are asking for is that bad, it's just unreasonable given the cirucmstances

but of course I'm amped about the idea of acquiring him

And I think the circumstances have a lot to do with a guy with his talent being available.

I'm right there with 'ya as far as wanting the deal to happen.

But at the right price.

A low risk/high reward deal.

If you give up too much, then you're essentially counting on Pacman to stay out of trouble, which to me is a high risk proposition.
 

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Unfortunately the Titans like to play games. Here is an article on how they treated McNair in 2006 when they gave him the run around and hes a franchise icon.

They are a classless organization from what i can see. I used to like them becasue of the fight the team put up in the 1999 SB nut after looking onto what they do I cannot maintain that.

I imagine they are going to stretch this out to the very last minute and then dump him.

Titans, Ravens agree to McNair trade

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Updated: June 8, 2006, 12:19 PM ET

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After an offseason of not being able to work out in the Titans facility, Steve McNair is finally going to have a new office to call home -- in Baltimore.

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2005 SEASON STATISTICS
Att Comp Yds TD Int Rat
476 292 3027 16 11 82.4

Pending a physical, McNair is on his way to Baltimore in a trade that is believed to involve a fourth-round choice in 2007. Those were terms that have been discussed for the past several weeks between the two teams. There is a possibility the draft pick could become a third-round choice depending on his playing time and performance in 2006.

The Titans released a statement Wednesday that spelled out McNair's departure. "We have granted permission to Baltimore to give Steve McNair a physical, which we expect to take place in the next 24 hours," the Titans said in statement. "Upon passing a physical, final trade terms will be agreed upon."

The trade ends one of the strangest exits of a franchise quarterback in recent NFL history. McNair, a 10-year institution with the Titans who helped take the team to a Super Bowl, had to win a grievance against the Titans to be allowed in the facility because the team feared an injury. McNair, considered a warrior who fought through numerous injuries to play during his 10-year career, had a $23 million cap number and the team didn't want him to be hurt and then be stuck with the high salary cap number.

After winning the grievance, the Titans informed him last week that he failed the team physical at the end of last season and needed to take another physical in order to return to the team. McNair and his agent, Bus Cook, were in the process of trying to schedule that physical when the team decided to let him go the Ravens.

During the second day of the NFL draft in April, the Titans gave Cook permission to talk to the Ravens about a new contract. Cook worked out a deal that gave him an $11 million signing bonus and a $1 million base salary. That was more than the $9 million he was scheduled to make in base salary for the Ravens in 2006.

In acquiring McNair, the Ravens feel they have received the final piece of the puzzle that could enable them to challenge the Steelers and the Bengals for the NFC North title. The 33-year-old McNair was the third pick in the 1995 draft and the Titans did the right thing in grooming him for greatness.

They only let him start six games during his first two seasons in Houston. By his third season, McNair was a starter in which the franchise was able to start building a winner. His completion percentage and quarterback rating kept improving as the team improve around him.

He went to the Pro Bowl in 2000, 2003 and 2005.

Though Kyle Boller is currently the Ravens starting quarterback, McNair goes to the team with enough time for him to win the starting job and try to take the team to the playoffs. He reunites with two former Titans -- wide receiver Derrick Mason and cornerback Samari Rolle. Mason and Rolle signed with the Ravens last year.

For McNair, the trade ends a tough exit from the Titans. While he thought he was going to have to take a Thursday physical in Nashville for a team that no longer wanted him, McNair can take a Thursday physical with a Raven team that has waited the entire offseason to get him.
 

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Hostile;2023799 said:
I can't help but lump the 2 together since they were kind of co-poster boys for the Goodell boot out the door and both have that West Virginia conenction as well.

So I'm wondering as I sit here this morning what is going through the minds at the Titans front office this morning as they see yet another scrape send Henry to the homeless lines of the NFL.

Think it could motivate them a bit to see yet another instance of a player in troubel who just doesn't get it? They might even think they are dumping their problem on us.

Just speculating.

Concur :cool:
 

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stasheroo;2023827 said:
And I think the circumstances have a lot to do with a guy with his talent being available.

exactly, that's why I think it's unreasonable for the Titans to be asking for 2 picks, one of them being pretty high, when in most other situations, the compensation agreed upon is usually much less

hell, Randy Moss and TO, w/ much less baggage, were aquired for single 4th, and 5th round picks respectively

stasheroo said:
I'm right there with 'ya as far as wanting the deal to happen.

But at the right price.

A low risk/high reward deal.

If you give up too much, then you're essentially counting on Pacman to stay out of trouble, which to me is a high risk proposition.

agreed
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2023820 said:
Oh btw do you guys know any Titans boards worth a flip? Ive only found gotitans and they dont seem very bright over there and the others have almost no traffic.
You going to go spread rumors that Pacman was at a strip club last night?









Hey, it could work.
 

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Hostile;2023868 said:
You going to go spread rumors that Pacman was at a strip club last night?

Hey, it could work.

Good idea brah but no. i was thinking to get some of their perspective specifically concerning Bud Adams and whether or not they thought that this was McNair 2.0.

I dont have a POP account so i cannot register over at gotitans as well.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2023872 said:
Good idea brah but no. i was thinking to get some of their perspective specifically concerning Bud Adams and whether or not they thought that this was McNair 2.0.

I dont have a POP account so i cannot register over at gotitans as well.
Had my hopes up there for a minute.

:D

One thing about Adams that I have always admired was his service during WWII. This is not at all well known about him, but do you know how he ended up in Houston in the first place? He was stranded because of fog. True story.

I think in some ways he has never left the fog.
 

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Bob Sacamano;2023818 said:
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH.
Damn.

I've broken Bob down to tears again.
 
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