Clarence Hill and Hellman nugget on Dak cracking under pressure

[erod]

Dak’s not a big game player.

Just is what it is.

That’s why a running game with him as the QB has to be a priority because he isn’t winning big games with his arm.

It is amazing the mental gymnastics of the Dak homers to avoid this simple and obvious truth that hasn't and won't ever change.

 

[Yobwocs]

Most mid tier QBs have cracked under pressure (Goff, Cousins, Darnold) and Dak is no different. In theory, I think Dak and the other aforementioned QBs could get on a hot streak that could propel them all the way to their conference championship, but Dak is now too old and broken down to do that. He shouldn’t be asked or expect to be a pocket passer this upcoming season because his ability to play uptempo and roll out were his most productive options, when needing to move the ball. My hope is that there is no way for Jerry to hide the fact that Dak is broken down because that will be apparent within the first few games of the season and that our 2nd stringer or rookie QB will fill in for the remainder of the season. I really hope that Dak is forced to medically retire at that point too.

How about high tier QBs? I've seen kinda fold too... Herbert Jackson. Are they high tier anymore?

 

[pitt33]

Hellmann and Hill can debate all they want on Dak.

Anyone with any common sense knows he’s a middling quarterback who lacks mental fortitude when the team needs him most.

 

[Gameover]

1. The playoff loss to GB in 2023, was in no way shape or form on Dak Prescott. If you think it was, then you are a complete imbecile

See if you can find the Miss St. v Alabama game from 2014 on YT. It's classic Dak choking on what was a winnable game by Miss St. if Dak plays decent

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

On his 5th playcaller, atrocious footwork still even as a 10 yr vet, poor to extremely poor record against above .500 competition or playoff opponents.
Injury prone.

So yeah,
Sign me up for 3 more years of that and he'll never play a full 17 game season again cuz he's all broke up.

Future so bright, I gotta wear shades.
LOL
Cowboys!

Imagine all of these flaws and he was still a All Pro lol.

 

[thunderpimp91]

1. The playoff loss to GB in 2023, was in no way shape or form on Dak Prescott. If you think it was, then you are a complete imbecile

Punt
INT
Punt
INT

4 drives, 24 plays, 106 yards, 2 turnovers to open the game.

Completely understand that there is plenty of blame to go around (Defense in general, Lamb, etc.) for that game and its not square on Daks shoulders, but it takes some serious mental gymnastics to say its in no way shape or form to blame Dak.

 

[Gameover]

Punt
INT
Punt
INT

4 drives, 24 plays, 106 yards, 2 turnovers to open the game.

Completely understand that there is plenty of blame to go around (Defense in general, Lamb, etc.) for that game and its not square on Daks shoulders, but it takes some serious mental gymnastics to say its in no way shape or form to blame Dak.

SF could've scored 75 points if needed. Do you

 

[75boyz]

Punt
INT
Punt
INT

4 drives, 24 plays, 106 yards, 2 turnovers to open the game.

Completely understand that there is plenty of blame to go around (Defense in general, Lamb, etc.) for that game and its not square on Daks shoulders, but it takes some serious mental gymnastics to say its in no way shape or form to blame Dak.

Some choose to die on Prescott Hill for very odd reasons.
Sometimes ya just gotta let 'em go brother.

 

[thunderpimp91]

SF could've scored 75 points if needed. Do you

Possibly, but the way this team was built they were designed to play with a lead. Once it got to 27-0 it was over and neither side of the football did their part. Had the offense been able to get anything on the board those first few drives and avoided the turnovers its possible its a different story. Plenty of blame to go on both sides of the football, and also plenty of blame to the front office for not being able to field NFL caliber LBs.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Some choose to die on Prescott Hill for very odd reasons.
Sometimes ya just gotta let 'em go brother.

A year ago I understood it....despite the GB game he played some of the best football of his career. Its like people didn't even watch the 2024 trainwreck though.

 

[75boyz]

A year ago I understood it....despite the GB game he played some of the best football of his career. Its like people didn't even watch the 2024 trainwreck though.

Yep, I'm a whole body of work kinda guy that takes into consideration his current footwork as a 10 yr vet, as well as slow processing speed, poor starting record against above .500/playoff opponents and overall lack of mobility.

While just a fan, I feel pretty confident other actual GMs may share some, if not all, of these observations.

 

[75boyz]

Most mid tier QBs have cracked under pressure (Goff, Cousins, Darnold) and Dak is no different. In theory, I think Dak and the other aforementioned QBs could get on a hot streak that could propel them all the way to their conference championship, but Dak is now too old and broken down to do that. He shouldn’t be asked or expect to be a pocket passer this upcoming season because his ability to play uptempo and roll out were his most productive options, when needing to move the ball. My hope is that there is no way for Jerry to hide the fact that Dak is broken down because that will be apparent within the first few games of the season and that our 2nd stringer or rookie QB will fill in for the remainder of the season. I really hope that Dak is forced to medically retire at that point too.

Nicely done.
Me too.

 

[big dog cowboy]

1. The playoff loss to GB in 2023, was in no way shape or form on Dak Prescott.

Sure you want to stick with that?

 

[Zekeats]

I will say this........some say it's him, others say he doesn't have enough talent around him. I don't know which it is but can both be true? Here's what I do know.......he played the GB like a free-agent rookie when ALL the marbles were aligned in his favor. There was no excuse for that whether you have a good or bad team and frankly I'm not sure he will ever recover from that gam

Helman is a shill, just trying a different angle to defend the poor play of a poor QB

 

[kskboys]

Definitely. I’m no Dak fan but I don’t understand why it has to be either or. I feel strongly that Dak does crumble under pressure AND he doesn’t have enough around him. Jerry and Stephen have failed him just like they failed Romo.

I feel anyone who looks at the playoff losses and states Dak is the sole reason we lost is blinded by bias and hate. Likewise if anyone watches the playoff losses and says the team let Dak down and Dak was robbed by the team’s play is in denial and willfully blind.

I don’t understand why it’s a controversial statement to say we have 2 independent problems. Dak is not a good QB in pressure games and Jerry has failed to build a team around him to make a championship run. I feel this issue of not acknowledging 2 independent truths is really dividing the fan base and it sucks.

Exactly. Jerry has done a P Poor job of building around him to fit him, and Dak is not a top tier QB. It's both.

 

[kskboys]

I don't think it's really cracking under pressure.
Dak doesn't have bad plays as much as bad games.
I'm guessing it's types of defenses he has problems with. Mixed zone and man coverage.
He's good against either but the mixture causes him problems. Against the mixture he throws to beat the man coverage but doesn't see the Zone he's throwing into, and because he's often a tick late in his poor games that approaching Zone can get into the play.

It's like, maybe he just loses focus. He's quite the schizoid at QB.

 

[kskboys]

How about high tier QBs? I've seen kinda fold too... Herbert Jackson. Are they high tier anymore?

To be seen.

 

[Chasing6]

I will say this........some say it's him, others say he doesn't have enough talent around him. I don't know which it is but can both be true? Here's what I do know.......he played the GB like a free-agent rookie when ALL the marbles were aligned in his favor. There was no excuse for that whether you have a good or bad team and frankly I'm not sure he will ever recover from that gam

When you have an inferior team, it forces the QB to try and make something happen. It is really not that hard to understand.

 

[kskboys]

1. The playoff loss to GB in 2023, was in no way shape or form on Dak Prescott. If you think it was, then you are a complete imbecile

See if you can find the Miss St. v Alabama game from 2014 on YT. It's classic Dak choking on what was a winnable game by Miss St. if Dak plays decent

The name calling thingie is cute. Means you realize you've lost this argument. Call some more names, it appears you need this chilidish thing to feel better about yourself.

 

[Yobwocs]

Dak’s not a big game player.

Just is what it is.

That’s why a running game with him as the QB has to be a priority because he isn’t winning big games with his arm.

Well.... recently in the last 10 years, the only QBs who have won Super Bowls with their arm is Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady, and.... Nick Foles. Expecting Dak to be one of the first 2 is an impossible and unrealistic ask. Expecting him to be the last is possible, but shouldn't be the expectation as we gotta take into account it's one of those rare instances that just weirdly happened for some reason.

So I think even most Dak fans would agree having a great running game would help him greatly. But unlucky for us, Zeke fell off badly. The Zeke fans in 2016 thought he was Emmitt.... lol.