rambo2
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They get the info from the same places.Is it good that this info comes via Hill and not Fisher?
They get the info from the same places.Is it good that this info comes via Hill and not Fisher?
You already said that they wouldn't do it.This would improve our defense.
Do it.
I'm sure they won't, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't.You already said that they wouldn't do it.
LolI'm sure they won't, but it doesn't mean they shouldn't.
Pipe down.
They would get LVE and Barr for a lot less than what Wagner got.Why resign lve?
Stephen's Phone:Lost me at "if the price is right".
When has that never been the case?
No surprise but what's the "right" price.
This time of the year is when guys have to sign for “the right price”. Actually could be a realistic possibility at this point post-draft. Beginning of April heck no but now, eh maybe.Lost me at "if the price is right".
When has that never been the case?
It's dumb though. Cox is obviously the 3rd down coverage backer. Neither lve or Barr are coverage guys. So one of them just sits the bench all year doing what?They would get LVE and Barr for a lot less than what Wagner got.
Blue Light Special, aisle # 7!!!!Well, it says right in the thread title that he's on clearance!
He went 4 picks before Aaron Donald (7 picks before Zack Martin) in the 2014 nfl draft, 4 probowls at LB although he probably should have been a DE.Never heard of the guy..
An aging solid player with an injury history would be my guess?
I always looked at Barr as an outside linebacker in the 3-4. It's a shame he went to a 4-3 that didn't let him rush from the edge. He could have been the first Micah Parsons.I wonder if Quinn could get more out of him as a pass rusher. He was thought to be an edge as a rookie and then Zimmer put him at OLB in his 4-3 and he now has 16 career sacks (7 seasons).
Throwing a lot of low ball offers against the wall and hoping one sticks???Nothing to see here fellas
He wont want one of our low-ball offers
Thanks, sounds like a solid, decent pick up IF we can agree to terms...He went 4 picks before Aaron Donald (7 picks before Zack Martin) in the 2014 nfl draft, 4 probowls at LB although he probably should have been a DE.
Here's his PFF free agent profile
Barr agreed to a pay cut before the 2021 season that also voided the 2022 and 2023 seasons on his five-year extension signed in 2019. Better luck with his health led to a respectable 63.8 overall grade and 72.6 pass-rush grade in 2021. Barr is a bit of a unique player, generally deployed as a Sam linebacker in a 4-3 scheme who occasionally gets his hand in the dirt.
Nevertheless, there were several interested teams last time he was a free agent — he came very close to signing with the New York Jets before ultimately returning to Minnesota — so it seems defensive coaches think they can find a way to put him in positions to succeed and utilize his athletic ability.
Strengths:
– Size and athleticism
– One of the best pass-rushing linebackers in the NFL
– Few negative plays against the run
Weaknesses:
– Hasn't been a playmaker in coverage throughout his career, his three picks in 2021 aside
– Inconsistent play
Scheme Fit/Role:
STARTING STRONGSIDE (SAM) LINEBACKER: Barr has made the successful transition from collegiate edge rusher to off-ball linebacker in the NFL, but he's still best utilized in a role that lets him get after the quarterback as a blitzer. He has consistently met expectations against the run over his eight-year career, producing both negative and positive grades at one of the lowest rates at the linebacker position.
Recent Injury History:
Barr missed the majority of the 2020 NFL season with a torn pectoral muscle, and a knee injury kept him out of the first four weeks of the 2021 season. Barr managed to play in all but two of Minnesota's games since Week 5 while managing knee and hamstring injuries.
Contract Projection: Two years, $14.5 million ($7.25M per year), $8.5 million total guaranteed
Bottom Line:
Barr had an uphill climb to provide value on the five-year, $67.5 million contract he signed prior to the 2019 season. Still, he's still a viable veteran starter entering 2022 free agency who has been a key part of several very good Vikings defenses since entering the league in 2014.