Clay Mathews

[YosemiteSam]

I find that extremely hard to believe. A 166 pounds? Isn't there a limit?

I was 155lbs till just after I turned 27. I quit smoking and gained 30lbs in 2 months time.

 

[CanuckCowboysFan]

I was 155lbs till just after I turned 27. I quit smoking and gained 30lbs in 2 months time.

We're talking about a division 1 linebacker here being 166 pounds. BS.

 

[Baileyneverfailey]

Well, if a guy is gaining weight to play football, it better be mostly muscle. ALso, yes, to gain 60 pounds you must eat a 210,000 calorie surplus over what your body burns over whatever time period is in question. There are 3500 calories of energy in a pound, and the only way to gain weight is to eat more than you burn. Law of thermodynamics...

And nobody built 48 pounds of pure muscle in 6 months naturally. It's not humanly possible. Maybe if a guy had already been bigger then lost it, and was gaining it back, but that's an entirely different set of circumstances.

If you're lucky and not blessed with freakish genetics, you can build generally about a pound of lean mass per month. If you're a complete beginner or have god tier genetics, you may get more than that, but not to the tune of 10+ pounds a month, ever. Not natural.

What are you talking about? I never said 60 pound of MUSCLE. I said 60 pound of WEIGHT. Some is fat, some is muscle. But WEIGHT. It is completely possible to gain 60 pounds in a year. I never said 60 pound of MUSCLE. And no, you don't have to eat 210,000 calories, 4000-5000 will do the job, plus lift weights.

BTW, Vinny Delmonte gained 48 pounds of pure muscle in 6 months, and many users of his program have gotten similar results. So that pretty much dis-proves you're theory that 60 pounds of muscle can't be done in a year.

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...t:429,r:13,s:103&tx=51&ty=63&biw=1281&bih=601

 

[jimmy40]

There is nothing wrong with his weight growth during college.

The issue is the extreme intensity. Nobody is that intense all the time.

Those that are (Merriman, Bosworth, Cushing, etc) are all big time steroid users.

throw Brooking in there too.

 

[YosemiteSam]

throw Brooking in there too.

No. You are confusing what I'm talking about. I'm talking about your eye popping out of your head crazy incoherent behavior. I'm guessing you don't remember Brian Bosworth and the psychopath he was.

Both Cushing, Matthews, and Merriman have displayed that same type of behavior.

 

[speedkilz88]

We're talking about a division 1 linebacker here being 166 pounds. BS.

It was already pointed out that weight is from his junior year in high school.

 

[the kid 05]

No. You are confusing what I'm talking about. I'm talking about your eye popping out of your head crazy incoherent behavior. I'm guessing you don't remember Brian Bosworth and the psychopath he was.

Both Cushing, Matthews, and Merriman have displayed that same type of behavior.

Ware plays with the exact same intensity.

I think this needs to be filed under "there is a player out side of dallas who is good, he must be abusin the roids"

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Ware plays with the exact same intensity.

I think this needs to be filed under "there is a player out side of dallas who is good, he must be abusin the roids"

I found a quote from a chat that Clay did prior to the Draft:

Is it true that you were 180lbs going into college? If so what did you do to get to the size you are now?

Clay Matthews Jr., LB, USC

My weight going into college was around 220 pounds

So, if that is true, then he was probably clean in college. BUT, it leads to some suspicion on how he could have gone from 166 to 220 in basically two years (Beginning Junior Year through entry to USC).

 

[baj1dallas]

Actually, he reportedly came into USC as a 166 lbs. walk on. He didn't even play regularly except on special teams until his senior year when he magically morphed into this man-beast.

even so, check out these from Mark Rippetoe (one of the foremost strength trainers in the country)

>The Starting Strength program is designed to take advantage of the body's immense growth capability during the first few months of training, when Rip says a lifter can gain faster naturally than many seasoned veterans can on steroids.

"These are the prime growth years. You'll never have another anabolic window like that ever again," says Rip. "And if you waste it, you can never go back."

>What kind of growth are we talking about?

"An 18-year-old kid showing up at my gym for the first time; if he's 5'10'' and 140 pounds on day one, I've seen kids that size put on 60 pounds of mass in six to eight months more times than I count," says Rip. "In fact, if he doesn't get results like that, I know he's not eating enough."

 

[Primetime42]

you know its possible to gain 60 pounds in 4 years naturally right? Just eat like a possessed human being, and lift weights.

I thought that sounded familiar.:laugh2:

FF to the :48 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mxjefR-vdI

 

[gmoney112]

even so, check out these from Mark Rippetoe (one of the foremost strength trainers in the country)

>The Starting Strength program is designed to take advantage of the body's immense growth capability during the first few months of training, when Rip says a lifter can gain faster naturally than many seasoned veterans can on steroids.

"These are the prime growth years. You'll never have another anabolic window like that ever again," says Rip. "And if you waste it, you can never go back."

>What kind of growth are we talking about?

"An 18-year-old kid showing up at my gym for the first time; if he's 5'10'' and 140 pounds on day one, I've seen kids that size put on 60 pounds of mass in six to eight months more times than I count," says Rip. "In fact, if he doesn't get results like that, I know he's not eating enough."

I've read the book through and through and you're a little out of context. He's referring to an 18 year old kid that's never been in a strenuous lifting regimen. For example, a twig at 140 lb's that goes from never lifting and eating 2000 calories a day, to heavy lifting with compound lifts 3-4x a week and eating in excess of 3500. A kid that's entering college will gain no doubt, but 60 pounds of muscle in 2 years after exiting a 4 year lifting program is a little much. There are tons of legal/illegal compounds that are easy to get away with in college, so it's not really outside the realm of possibility. I'd say the majority of college players have done one compound or another at one point in their lives primarly due to the competitive nature of the sport.