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Right behind the importance of having a great quarterback is having great coaching.

For some reason, everybody in here understands the difference between average qb play and elite qb play. But nobody in here understands the difference between average coaching and elite coaching.

You cannot win in this league (Super Bowl) with average qb play and average coaching. You have to be great somewhere. Our coaching (offensive) and our qb are substandard.

Here’s a blurb on the elite coaching from the Chiefs last night to get 2 wide open touchdowns on massive third down plays very late in the game. It’s something this team has no clue on.



 

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Yeah, I didn't see CeeDee Lamb walk into the end zone without a defender in sight against the Bucs in the wild card round.

I also didn't see this offense put up 30 plus on this same Eagles defense this year.

Tell me more about what I don't understand.
 

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Right behind the importance of having a great quarterback is having great coaching.

For some reason, everybody in here understands the difference between average qb play and elite qb play. But nobody in here understands the difference between average coaching and elite coaching.

You cannot win in this league (Super Bowl) with average qb play and average coaching. You have to be great somewhere. Our coaching (offensive) and our qb are substandard.

Here’s a blurb on the elite coaching from the Chiefs last night to get 2 wide open touchdowns on massive third down plays very late in the game. It’s something this team has no clue on.




Its not that they dont understand the difference between average QB play and elite QB play. Its they that dont understand the difference between an average QB, a good QB and an elite QB. There is a whole range in between elite and average. Its basically the QB's from 5-12. Those are always the toughest to judge as they are not elite, but yet they are better than most QB's and give you a chance to have success if you put the right team around them. Do you move on, resign them, trade them, give them big money? Hardest group to judge.

Honestly, you have no clue about QB's and football if you think either Romo or Dak were either "substandard, or average".

Thats just the truth of it. You have no business in a football or QB discussion if you cant see that.
 

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Right behind the importance of having a great quarterback is having great coaching.

For some reason, everybody in here understands the difference between average qb play and elite qb play. But nobody in here understands the difference between average coaching and elite coaching.

You cannot win in this league (Super Bowl) with average qb play and average coaching. You have to be great somewhere. Our coaching (offensive) and our qb are substandard.

Here’s a blurb on the elite coaching from the Chiefs last night to get 2 wide open touchdowns on massive third down plays very late in the game. It’s something this team has no clue on.




For some reason , unknown to me, Jerry will usually not invest in top tier coaching.
It's really crazy as their is no salary cap on coaches.
His coaching hires since Jimmy left have overall all been lacking.
One of his major failures as GM.
 

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For some reason , unknown to me, Jerry will usually not invest in top tier coaching.
It's really crazy as their is no salary cap on coaches.
His coaching hires since Jimmy left have overall all been lacking.
One of his major failures as GM.
Correct. In essence this is the point of this post. We need elite level coaching. There is no reason why we don’t have it. Other than Jerry’s ego.
 

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Meh. I don’t buy it.

The most important part of coaching is allowing the owner to do and say whatever he wants.

You are also expected to achieve success, but take no credit for it.

Everyone knows this.
 

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Yeah, I didn't see CeeDee Lamb walk into the end zone without a defender in sight against the Bucs in the wild card round.

I also didn't see this offense put up 30 plus on this same Eagles defense this year.

Tell me more about what I don't understand.
You obviously didn’t get the memo on what happened in that tb game

Tell me more about what this team has accomplished offensively in all of the other big postseason games lately. Nice try.
 

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You obviously didn’t get the memo on what happened in that tb game

Tell me more about what this team has accomplished offensively in all of the other big postseason games lately. Nice try.
Tell me again how the difference is the coaching since the Cowboys have their own Mahomes to pick apart defenses.

The Chiefs coaches can do it! Why can't the Cowboys?!

It must be rough to find out that it was you all along who didn't know what they were talking about.
 

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Trying to recall, but wasn't Valero the Quality Analytics coach for the offense where he helped game plan/decisions during the week?

Did they hire anyone yet to fill that spot?
 

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Its not that they dont understand the difference between average QB play and elite QB play. Its they that dont understand the difference between an average QB, a good QB and an elite QB. There is a whole range in between elite and average. Its basically the QB's from 5-12. Those are always the toughest to judge as they are not elite, but yet they are better than most QB's and give you a chance to have success if you put the right team around them. Do you move on, resign them, trade them, give them big money? Hardest group to judge.

Honestly, you have no clue about QB's and football if you think either Romo or Dak were either "substandard, or average".

Thats just the truth of it. You have no business in a football or QB discussion if you cant see that.
It's either you are elite, or you suck for many fans. Then in the same breath they'll say a truly average QBs (Brad Johnson, Cooper Rush etc.) are better than the good QBs.
 

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It's either you are elite, or you suck for many fans. Then in the same breath they'll say a truly average QBs (Brad Johnson, Cooper Rush etc.) are better than the good QBs.
Most of these posters are casual QB challenged football fans. They watch a guy like Mahomes and think its all the QB and that life in the NFL should be like that for everyone.

Its a waste of time really trying to educate these people.

Cowboys are close, but they arent on the level of these two teams.

Oline and coaching being the biggest. Hard to compete at QB with Mahomes.
 

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Tell me again how the difference is the coaching since the Cowboys have their own Mahomes to pick apart defenses.

The Chiefs coaches can do it! Why can't the Cowboys?!

It must be rough to find out that it was you all along who didn't know what they were talking about.
Can’t read? OP says subpar coaching and qb play.
 

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Andy Reid and Mahomes is why the chiefs succeed, not Eric. Which is why he continues to be overlooked for head coaching gigs
 

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Andy Reid and Mahomes is why the chiefs succeed, not Eric. Which is why he continues to be overlooked for head coaching gigs
Actually it isn’t. Educate yourself.
 
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