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I love the thought of Sean coming to Dallas but I am not sure he would want to work for Jerry as HC. There will be other openings with no Jerry to deal with.
If Linehan gets the axe, it is Garrett protecting himself by rolling someone else under the bus.
Again.
He has a very sly habit of that. It is not exactly overt, but he has done it before. Wade Phillips still has the knife in his back.
While I see Linny getting the boot, I will not buy that it's all his fault. This has more to do with JG's influence and his offense. Linny is just calling the plays for him.
My fear is that Romo wants this offense and will tell Jerry to stick with it.
Jerry needs to go ahead and turn the team over to Stephen, who should hire a GM to run the team. Which should include a new coaching staff, and this team must find a QB for the future this offseason, plus it needs a good veteran backup in the offseason also. We need to draft a RB, CB, finding a good blocking TE either in FA or in the draft. those would be choices heading into the offseason.
This is a good point that does not get brought up often enough. It is my feeling that after the joneses, romo has the most power in the franchise currently. Yes, I believe he has more power than Garrett. Having said that, I do believe romo is "comfortable" with Garrett (unfortunately). And for this reason, I do not believe we will see a HC change because the power brokers in this organization would rather be "comfortable" than win a championship.
I wish romo had higher expectations for himself but i fear that he does not
JMO
The way I see it we have a few issues.
1. Talent recognition: Not sure how they evaluate players, but I've had a few disagreements with who they keep or don't keep and activate/play. It almost seems like a popularity contest at times. For example, Dwayne Harris, I was puzzled why he was not utilized on offense more? He always added a spark when he was used, but players like Street were higher on the depth chart than him? They went with the same 2 safeties that were horrible last year back again this year and let's not even get started on Weeded and the other lousy QB from pre-season (not Showers, who at least showed something).
2. Offensive scheme: I know this has been discussed to death, but we utilize an old version "Air Coryell" system. The Air Coryell offense relies on four key things to be successful.
The Coryell system places heavy emphasis on mid to deep range passing. What good is a mid-deep passing oriented offense when you get down in the red zone, if you can’t run the ball for those tough yards inside the 10? An offense based on throwing deep gives you limited, predictable options when you get the ball inside that short field.Turner believes in attacking with wide receivers between the 20-yard lines and relying on tight ends and running backs in the red zone. To achieve this, he utilizes vertically stretched route combinations that demand a quarterback make full-field reads. A route that would travel, say, 12 yards in a typical offense might travel 14 or 15 in Turner’s. Everything is just a tad more aggressive. To offset the subtle extra pressure this can place on a passer, Not just any QB can run this system, Turner also emphasizes balance, featuring a between-the-tackles ground game.
- A tall receiver who can stretch the field and win in jump ball situations. (Michael Irvin/Dez).
- Power running game with fullback help as lead blocker and extra pass blocker. (Emmitt Smith and Daryl Johnston, Clutz and Dmac? No).
- Strong offensive line to allow time for mid-range to deep passing options to open up. (Early 90’s Dallas, greatest O-line ever. our current line, close).
- Pass catching tight end who finds space in the middle opened by the WRs stretching the field. (Jay Novacek, yes. Witten, yes).
Jason has been using this system, since it is the only one he knows and to be even more honest, he not a master of it like Norv is. If you look at the 4 key things that are needed, the only time we actually had those was last year with our revamped line, Murray and Romo and Dez playing the majority of the season. It's not a forgiving system. Jason has also seemed to strip it down a bunch and hasn't been good about adding new wrinkles, but that's what you get when you take a young, fresh QB coach and make him you offensive coordinator, not a lot of experience there.
Linehan's timing-based passing offense is similar to the scheme Garrett implemented with the Cowboys when he arrived in 2007. It's the same scheme Troy Aikman ran in the glory days of the 1990s.
Linehan didn't need to alter the playbook much, though he has changed some of the language to make it simpler.
More importantly, Romo figured the variety of screens and play-action passes Linehan used, along with his innate ability to consistently get the ball to his best players, would give the Cowboys offense a boost.
3. Offensive play calling: Here's where most of us are just shaking our heads and guessing. Prior to coming to the Cowboys, Under Linehan, the Lions ranked ninth in the NFL with 111 screens attempted those past two seasons. Their average of 7.05 yards per attempt was tied for fourth in the league. Now let's talk about play-action. Romo does such a nice job carrying out the ball fakes on play-action passes that it's almost impossible for the linebackers not to be fooled and take a couple of steps toward the line of scrimmage.
He had a 109.1 passer rating on play-action passes in 2013 and a 111.2 rating in 2012.
For some reason, whether Garrett (or then) offensive coordinator Bill Callahan was doing the play calling, the Cowboys rarely took advantage of this aspect of Romo's skill set. They still don't. Just so you know, Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford threw 141 play-action passes 2013. That's the same amount Romo has amassed in two seasons (2012 and 2013). My guess it's JG sticking his nose into the play calling. There has been a big hub bub over the last couple of years it's almost a CIA/NSA conspiracy as to who is calling the plays and is JG influencing or overriding his OC's. The evidence lies in the fact the OC's that come here all of the sudden have their tendencies change to more of what JG has a history with.
4. Predictability: Who here knows what plays our offense is going to run pre-snap? Need I say more? Mr. Strum points it out week after week. Heck, this could be the easiest thing to fix and create the most impact. The biggest thing of all is our formations give away our play calls. Seriously Jason, play action pass from behind the center. Power sweep from the shotgun. Heck, the clinic was watching Rodgers the other night. Mix up the run/pass from different formations. This isn't the 90's Cowboys or 60's Packers were we are going to beat you, even though the defense knows what you are going to run. Most generals know creativity and diversion are a good thing. We are like the revolutionary war, where we are the British lined up in a field and the other teams are shooting at us from the woods with Kentucky long guns and we can't figure out why they aren't coming out and fighting with us straight up.
So, in the long run I think Garrett needs to go, because even with multiple OC's, he just overrides them and does his own thing, which isn't good. The only way I would consider keeping him (like I have a say in the matter) would be if someone came in here as a new OC with a different scheme, so JG couldn't muck it up and make sure JG has absolutely no say in the game day play calling or game management, but then what would he be around for anyhow?
Garrett is running Cam Cameron's offense... We are the Miami Dolphins of 2005-2006 era..
That explains Fournette and his great rushing and there QB throws for like 120yds a game!
Firing Linehan is just another scapegoat. Maybe we need to question why playcalling had to be removed from Callahan and Linehan doesn't look much better.
Let me preface this by saying that I have supported Jason Garrett and I like his even keeled coaching style. I am not sure if with the owner the Dallas Cowboys have, we would be able to have a better coaching option long term.
Having said that, I cannot fathom how, with the talent level the Cowboys have (and I am not quailifing it; but the offensive and defensive lines are average to good at least) the Cowboys have not been able to win at least 2 out of 9 games that have not been staretd by Romo. Sorry but that should fall squarely on coaching (and yes, quarterbacking evaluation re Weeden).
Further, to rely on Romo going forward (and I not saying that the Cowboys should release or trade Romo) is in my view, plain suicide.
Lastly, we know what we have in Matt Cassel. I would go to Kellen Moore if for nothing else, to know if the Cowboys have something in this guy, or rather if they should be looking for two quarterbacks next year.
There goes my 2015 rant.....hoping for a better 2016....
The way I see it we have a few issues.
1. Talent recognition: Not sure how they evaluate players, but I've had a few disagreements with who they keep or don't keep and activate/play. It almost seems like a popularity contest at times. For example, Dwayne Harris, I was puzzled why he was not utilized on offense more? He always added a spark when he was used, but players like Street were higher on the depth chart than him? They went with the same 2 safeties that were horrible last year back again this year and let's not even get started on Weeded and the other lousy QB from pre-season (not Showers, who at least showed something).
2. Offensive scheme: I know this has been discussed to death, but we utilize an old version "Air Coryell" system. The Air Coryell offense relies on four key things to be successful.
The Coryell system places heavy emphasis on mid to deep range passing. What good is a mid-deep passing oriented offense when you get down in the red zone, if you can’t run the ball for those tough yards inside the 10? An offense based on throwing deep gives you limited, predictable options when you get the ball inside that short field.Turner believes in attacking with wide receivers between the 20-yard lines and relying on tight ends and running backs in the red zone. To achieve this, he utilizes vertically stretched route combinations that demand a quarterback make full-field reads. A route that would travel, say, 12 yards in a typical offense might travel 14 or 15 in Turner’s. Everything is just a tad more aggressive. To offset the subtle extra pressure this can place on a passer, Not just any QB can run this system, Turner also emphasizes balance, featuring a between-the-tackles ground game.
- A tall receiver who can stretch the field and win in jump ball situations. (Michael Irvin/Dez).
- Power running game with fullback help as lead blocker and extra pass blocker. (Emmitt Smith and Daryl Johnston, Clutz and Dmac? No).
- Strong offensive line to allow time for mid-range to deep passing options to open up. (Early 90’s Dallas, greatest O-line ever. our current line, close).
- Pass catching tight end who finds space in the middle opened by the WRs stretching the field. (Jay Novacek, yes. Witten, yes).
Jason has been using this system, since it is the only one he knows and to be even more honest, he not a master of it like Norv is. If you look at the 4 key things that are needed, the only time we actually had those was last year with our revamped line, Murray and Romo and Dez playing the majority of the season. It's not a forgiving system. Jason has also seemed to strip it down a bunch and hasn't been good about adding new wrinkles, but that's what you get when you take a young, fresh QB coach and make him you offensive coordinator, not a lot of experience there.
Linehan's timing-based passing offense is similar to the scheme Garrett implemented with the Cowboys when he arrived in 2007. It's the same scheme Troy Aikman ran in the glory days of the 1990s.
Linehan didn't need to alter the playbook much, though he has changed some of the language to make it simpler.
More importantly, Romo figured the variety of screens and play-action passes Linehan used, along with his innate ability to consistently get the ball to his best players, would give the Cowboys offense a boost.
3. Offensive play calling: Here's where most of us are just shaking our heads and guessing. Prior to coming to the Cowboys, Under Linehan, the Lions ranked ninth in the NFL with 111 screens attempted those past two seasons. Their average of 7.05 yards per attempt was tied for fourth in the league. Now let's talk about play-action. Romo does such a nice job carrying out the ball fakes on play-action passes that it's almost impossible for the linebackers not to be fooled and take a couple of steps toward the line of scrimmage.
He had a 109.1 passer rating on play-action passes in 2013 and a 111.2 rating in 2012.
For some reason, whether Garrett (or then) offensive coordinator Bill Callahan was doing the play calling, the Cowboys rarely took advantage of this aspect of Romo's skill set. They still don't. Just so you know, Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford threw 141 play-action passes 2013. That's the same amount Romo has amassed in two seasons (2012 and 2013). My guess it's JG sticking his nose into the play calling. There has been a big hub bub over the last couple of years it's almost a CIA/NSA conspiracy as to who is calling the plays and is JG influencing or overriding his OC's. The evidence lies in the fact the OC's that come here all of the sudden have their tendencies change to more of what JG has a history with.
4. Predictability: Who here knows what plays our offense is going to run pre-snap? Need I say more? Mr. Strum points it out week after week. Heck, this could be the easiest thing to fix and create the most impact. The biggest thing of all is our formations give away our play calls. Seriously Jason, play action pass from behind the center. Power sweep from the shotgun. Heck, the clinic was watching Rodgers the other night. Mix up the run/pass from different formations. This isn't the 90's Cowboys or 60's Packers were we are going to beat you, even though the defense knows what you are going to run. Most generals know creativity and diversion are a good thing. We are like the revolutionary war, where we are the British lined up in a field and the other teams are shooting at us from the woods with Kentucky long guns and we can't figure out why they aren't coming out and fighting with us straight up.
So, in the long run I think Garrett needs to go, because even with multiple OC's, he just overrides them and does his own thing, which isn't good. The only way I would consider keeping him (like I have a say in the matter) would be if someone came in here as a new OC with a different scheme, so JG couldn't muck it up and make sure JG has absolutely no say in the game day play calling or game management, but then what would he be around for anyhow?
Dooley was there when Garrett was and so was Houck when Saban was coach. Then Cameron came. They basically ran the same flavor of offense.
The year the Ravens won the SB, they fired Cameron came after Saban left for one year and was fired if I remember correctly. I used to watch them and they were like a version of the JG offense, Cameron getting bashed for not running and having his QB in shot-gun all the time.
This staff that we have in place has ALWAYS been Garrett's. Jerry has given him a HUGE leash. Even Scott Linehan was with Miami in 2005.
His whole career coaching prior to the Cowboys was Miami.. That explains where we are in this organization.. All from that tree..
The way I see it we have a few issues.
1. Talent recognition: Not sure how they evaluate players, but I've had a few disagreements with who they keep or don't keep and activate/play. It almost seems like a popularity contest at times. For example, Dwayne Harris, I was puzzled why he was not utilized on offense more? He always added a spark when he was used, but players like Street were higher on the depth chart than him? They went with the same 2 safeties that were horrible last year back again this year and let's not even get started on Weeded and the other lousy QB from pre-season (not Showers, who at least showed something).
2. Offensive scheme: I know this has been discussed to death, but we utilize an old version "Air Coryell" system. The Air Coryell offense relies on four key things to be successful.
The Coryell system places heavy emphasis on mid to deep range passing. What good is a mid-deep passing oriented offense when you get down in the red zone, if you can’t run the ball for those tough yards inside the 10? An offense based on throwing deep gives you limited, predictable options when you get the ball inside that short field.Turner believes in attacking with wide receivers between the 20-yard lines and relying on tight ends and running backs in the red zone. To achieve this, he utilizes vertically stretched route combinations that demand a quarterback make full-field reads. A route that would travel, say, 12 yards in a typical offense might travel 14 or 15 in Turner’s. Everything is just a tad more aggressive. To offset the subtle extra pressure this can place on a passer, Not just any QB can run this system, Turner also emphasizes balance, featuring a between-the-tackles ground game.
- A tall receiver who can stretch the field and win in jump ball situations. (Michael Irvin/Dez).
- Power running game with fullback help as lead blocker and extra pass blocker. (Emmitt Smith and Daryl Johnston, Clutz and Dmac? No).
- Strong offensive line to allow time for mid-range to deep passing options to open up. (Early 90’s Dallas, greatest O-line ever. our current line, close).
- Pass catching tight end who finds space in the middle opened by the WRs stretching the field. (Jay Novacek, yes. Witten, yes).
Jason has been using this system, since it is the only one he knows and to be even more honest, he not a master of it like Norv is. If you look at the 4 key things that are needed, the only time we actually had those was last year with our revamped line, Murray and Romo and Dez playing the majority of the season. It's not a forgiving system. Jason has also seemed to strip it down a bunch and hasn't been good about adding new wrinkles, but that's what you get when you take a young, fresh QB coach and make him you offensive coordinator, not a lot of experience there.
Linehan's timing-based passing offense is similar to the scheme Garrett implemented with the Cowboys when he arrived in 2007. It's the same scheme Troy Aikman ran in the glory days of the 1990s.
Linehan didn't need to alter the playbook much, though he has changed some of the language to make it simpler.
More importantly, Romo figured the variety of screens and play-action passes Linehan used, along with his innate ability to consistently get the ball to his best players, would give the Cowboys offense a boost.
3. Offensive play calling: Here's where most of us are just shaking our heads and guessing. Prior to coming to the Cowboys, Under Linehan, the Lions ranked ninth in the NFL with 111 screens attempted those past two seasons. Their average of 7.05 yards per attempt was tied for fourth in the league. Now let's talk about play-action. Romo does such a nice job carrying out the ball fakes on play-action passes that it's almost impossible for the linebackers not to be fooled and take a couple of steps toward the line of scrimmage.
He had a 109.1 passer rating on play-action passes in 2013 and a 111.2 rating in 2012.
For some reason, whether Garrett (or then) offensive coordinator Bill Callahan was doing the play calling, the Cowboys rarely took advantage of this aspect of Romo's skill set. They still don't. Just so you know, Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford threw 141 play-action passes 2013. That's the same amount Romo has amassed in two seasons (2012 and 2013). My guess it's JG sticking his nose into the play calling. There has been a big hub bub over the last couple of years it's almost a CIA/NSA conspiracy as to who is calling the plays and is JG influencing or overriding his OC's. The evidence lies in the fact the OC's that come here all of the sudden have their tendencies change to more of what JG has a history with.
4. Predictability: Who here knows what plays our offense is going to run pre-snap? Need I say more? Mr. Strum points it out week after week. Heck, this could be the easiest thing to fix and create the most impact. The biggest thing of all is our formations give away our play calls. Seriously Jason, play action pass from behind the center. Power sweep from the shotgun. Heck, the clinic was watching Rodgers the other night. Mix up the run/pass from different formations. This isn't the 90's Cowboys or 60's Packers were we are going to beat you, even though the defense knows what you are going to run. Most generals know creativity and diversion are a good thing. We are like the revolutionary war, where we are the British lined up in a field and the other teams are shooting at us from the woods with Kentucky long guns and we can't figure out why they aren't coming out and fighting with us straight up.
So, in the long run I think Garrett needs to go, because even with multiple OC's, he just overrides them and does his own thing, which isn't good. The only way I would consider keeping him (like I have a say in the matter) would be if someone came in here as a new OC with a different scheme, so JG couldn't muck it up and make sure JG has absolutely no say in the game day play calling or game management, but then what would he be around for anyhow?
And here is the trademark of the Jerry regime - recognition of the problem well after the fact. Never ahead of the game, try to "get cute" or be the smartest guy in the room then after a lost season throw tons of resources. Of course, then you end up with the proverbial plug this hole but now another springs a leak...
Dooley was there when Garrett was and so was Houck when Saban was coach. Then Cameron came. They basically ran the same flavor of offense.
The year the Ravens won the SB, they fired Cameron came after Saban left for one year and was fired if I remember correctly. I used to watch them and they were like a version of the JG offense, Cameron getting bashed for not running and having his QB in shot-gun all the time.
This staff that we have in place has ALWAYS been Garrett's. Jerry has given him a HUGE leash. Even Scott Linehan was with Miami in 2005.
His whole career coaching prior to the Cowboys was Miami.. That explains where we are in this organization.. All from that tree..