Colombo has given up a sack...

[Bob Sacamano]

:beatit:.

that's how my dead grandmother would look in the backfield compared to Bledsoe

 

[CliffnDallas]

Is this really that big of a deal to people?

Only to people who's main job is saying....Paper or plastic?

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

Only to people who's main job is saying....Paper or plastic?

 

[AdamJT13]

I understand that Bledsoe went the wrong way. But that doesnt mean you let the guy go right by you.

If the play calls for you to block someone else, then you do.

According to Bill Parcells, Colombo didn't allow a sack to Strahan. But what does Bill Parcells know?

 

[Hostile]

Only to people who's main job is saying....Paper or plastic?

Good info Cliff. I feel more comfortable with the topic now.

Paper! Save the planet.

 

[Alexander]

Is this really that big of a deal to people?

Apparently it is. Look at the concern about Newman's TD total.

There are not many right tackles in this league who haven't surrendered a sack, much less one who was practically out of the league at this time last year.

Just be happy is doing much better than what he have had recently at the position.

 

[Rack]

Is this really that big of a deal to people?

No kidding. He's playing well, that much is evident.


1 sack given up, no sacks given up... big deal.


As long as he doesn't completely suck and give up 16 sacks.

 

[zrinkill]

Is this really that big of a deal to people?

And does it really require its own thread.

 

[DLCassidy]

Stats. Inc. has Columbo down for 4.5 sacks allowed this year, in case anyone cares.

 

[AbeBeta]

Stats. Inc. has Columbo down for 4.5 sacks allowed this year, in case anyone cares.

Don't go there.....

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Stats. Inc. has Columbo down for 4.5 sacks allowed this year, in case anyone cares.

that's less than what Walter Jones has given up this year

 

[Alexander]

Don't go there.....

Why not?

It is not a secret teams grade their own players differently than a collection of anonymous bean counters who do not have inside information.

That is one of the dangers of applying statistical processes that have worked with baseball to football. There are variables in play. It is not where the judgment is made for you on the scoreboard, like it is for an "error". That is easy to record. That does not happen in football, despite what those who have tape holding their glasses together might tell you.

STATs got its start with baseball and is attempting to branch out. So they have come up with these "sack" statistics and "drop" statistics that are about as arbitrary as who they have recording the information. It is not reliable and usually doesn't jibe with what a team feels is significant. If you watch a Joe Buck broadcast involving Terrell Owens, he has more drops in a game than anyone else has recorded. It is all subjective and interpretive.

Biases are involved on both sides, but a smart team is far more strict in their grades than some statistical service that peddles its wares to Fantasy Football fanatics. If the owner and the coach state their right tackle hasn't given up a sack, I would think they are telling the truth. Unless of course they are engaging in a collective display of delusion.

The NFL does not record or recognize either yet. So, until they do, a word to wise, stop recognizing them when attempting to make assertions. It makes you look foolish.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

my God Alex

good show

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

as in the tony romo season?
the REAL cowboys team?

One in the same.

 

[AbeBeta]

Why not?

It is not a secret teams grade their own players differently than a collection of anonymous bean counters who do not have inside information.
....

The NFL does not record or recognize either yet. So, until they do, a word to wise, stop recognizing them when attempting to make assertions. It makes you look foolish.

Sure -- but as I've pointed out before, if you want "performance" stats, you can't rely on the team's sack values either -- yes, Columbo didn't give up a sack according to the team.

However, did he blow assignments? We don't know.

Did he give up plays that would have been sacks if Romo (or maybe even Bledsoe) didn't bail him out? We don't know.

So hearing that Columbo hasn't given up a sack is encouraging but it clearly isn't the be all and end all analysis of his play that some folks are making it out to be.

Clearly we wouldn't be able to say this about Petiti last year -- Then again, how accurate is the oft-cited 13.5 sacks number for him? He got the whole year with Bledsoe.

And if you can show where I cited Stats, Inc. (a site that I actually had to search for to before replying-- although I've seen other provide a link to it months ago) I'd love to see it. I based my claim the other day on seeing Columbo let Strahan by him in the Giants game.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Wow I'm shocked at the amount of attention given to useless threads....

 

[Clove]

Is this really that big of a deal to people?

I was wondering the same thing.

 

[Apluz]

I still want to know who is counting the times that the QB bailed him out when it would have been a sack. That seems just as important.

It's a QB's job to avoid as many sacks as possible... the good ones do this well... If Bledsoe could do the same he would still be starting and probably be a top 5 QB in the league.

 

[Scotman]

I know he hasn't allowed 16, or 160, or whatever it was last year.

One=OK.

4.5=OK.

Pretending you're the starting gate in a horse race to the QB=Bad.

 

[FLcowboy]

I still can't believe Terrell dropped that ball...so critical and such a perfect pass. 9-3 sounds soooo much better than 8-4 to me.

TO is a bum. Can't figure out why the Cowboys are winning, when there could have been other WRs signed as free agents.