Colombo

[zeroburrito]

Maybe. Maybe not. Colombo is really the leader on that line. He's the guy who brings fire. Unfortunately, he's really the only one who plays with an attitude and there is a great deal to be said for having a leader out there. One thing I know for sure is that even if Barron can play at a solid level, he certainly doesn't bring the lunch pail attitude with him.

30 year old men don't need a leader though. if barron can play better put him in.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Colombo has gotten somewhat of a free pass the last couple of years. He has not been as good as been made out to be, but because he has an attitude and gets in the oppositions face people tend to overlook his deficiencies. He had as many if not more penalties as Flozell the last couple of years while not facing the consistent level of pass rushers as Flozell faced. Colombo has been decent for Dallas, but nothing special. Last night he struggled and he can't play like that in the regular season.

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[Coakleys Dad]

Originally Posted by joseephuss
Colombo has gotten somewhat of a free pass the last couple of years. He has not been as good as been made out to be, but because he has an attitude and gets in the oppositions face people tend to overlook his deficiencies. He had as many if not more penalties as Flozell the last couple of years while not facing the consistent level of pass rushers as Flozell faced. Colombo has been decent for Dallas, but nothing special. Last night he struggled and he can't play like that in the regular season.

Cant argue.

 

[adbutcher]

The issue is whether his production plus leadership is more than you get from say, Barron, who might play a little better but bring zero leadership.

And I don't know that he really has anything to "turn around" - he's a vet coming off an injury. He gave up some coverage sacks last night.

Very valid points.

 

[Ashwynn]

Sam Young is a future starter in this league for sure.

Yeah, but is he ready to start now. A year away starter does little to help us if we need him this sept.

Hopefully the Oline will gel and become the rock our O is based off.

 

[gimmesix]

Also, Two of those sacks Colombos guy looped around for the sack. They were coverage sacks. I am not worried about the O-Line, i am worried about the wide receivers not getting open or Romo holding onto the ball too long.

Thanks for pointing that out. It seems like some people just see a sack being given up by a player and assume it's the lineman's fault. Colombo only was beaten once; the other two were forced by no one being open and Romo having to hold the ball.

The one thing about Colombo that I think is a fair criticism is that he does not have the athleticism to continue holding blocks if the play breaks down. He's a great technician and has good power to initially stop his man, but he doesn't have the movement skills to keep up with them when they continue to throw move after move at him.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm a Colombo fan. But if he has lost a half step then I'd rather see Barron in there. In fact I think Barron the better player but I could easily be wrong here. Barron has played the right side before. Whatever they do, I hope they play the better player.

Barron certainly has the potential to be a better player. At times in his career his play exceeded Colombo at his best. However, there is a reason he was traded for a backup LB straight up. He just doesn't bring it every down. If I'm a coach I'd prefer the guy who grades out a C to the guy who gives me a B- if that C guy is more consistent.

 

[Sarge]

Concerns about the OL - imagine that...

Overrated for past 4 years and continuing, all of them (I'll give Free a break however)...

 

[jobberone]

Barron certainly has the potential to be a better player. At times in his career his play exceeded Colombo at his best. However, there is a reason he was traded for a backup LB straight up. He just doesn't bring it every down. If I'm a coach I'd prefer the guy who grades out a C to the guy who gives me a B- if that C guy is more consistent.

I'll wait and see how he plays here. The guys started a lot of games even if it was for the Rams. I think the guy can play. I think we got a steal in the trade for Carpenter. At least we have a swing tackle who can come in and play if needed. Think what it would be like if he weren't here!

 

[adbutcher]

I'll wait and see how he plays here. The guys started a lot of games even if it was for the Rams. I think the guy can play. I think we got a steal in the trade for Carpenter. At least we have a swing tackle who can come in and play if needed. Think what it would be like if he weren't here!

I am willing to give Colombo until the next preseason game. He will be tested by a good San Diego rush and if he passes, I am willing to roll with him. One thing is clear, he has to step it up because although Barron is here, he doesn't instill me with confidence.

 

[burmafrd]

for those pumping any of the backup linemen up remember that they have not been playing the starters much for either team. A guy can look good against second teamers and stink against starters.

 

[noshame]

Concerns about the OL - imagine that...

Overrated for past 4 years and continuing, all of them (I'll give Free a break however)...

hear ya

 

[dbair1967]

for those pumping any of the backup linemen up remember that they have not been playing the starters much for either team. A guy can look good against second teamers and stink against starters.

To be honest, our true "backup" OL havent played much. Barron played a couple series vs Cinci and got hurt, and Holland hasnt played in either game.

Young has looked very respectable though, and I've been fairly impressed with what Costa has done at C. Bright looks decent at G. Brewster is a project.

 

[ThreeandOut]

To be honest, our true "backup" OL havent played much. Barron played a couple series vs Cinci and got hurt, and Holland hasnt played in either game.

Young has looked very respectable though, and I've been fairly impressed with what Costa has done at C. Bright looks decent at G. Brewster is a project.

Yes, without Barron and Holland, our backups are a very inexperienced group. Playing the young players so much now will hopefully pay dividends in the future, but we are seeing the growing pains right now.

I agree that Barron and Holland should be our primary backups. However, Holland has shown very little during his career with Dallas. I wonder if they might get rid of him should another veteran become available after final cuts are made.

 

[Kevinicus]

Watched the first series yesterday and was expecting some really long coverage sacks with how some of you are talking, but that isn't what I saw. The first sack is the only one you could really say was a coverage sack, and even on that one Colombo didn't not play it well at all. Just because receivers aren't open initially doesn't make it a coverage sack. Coverage sacks is when the coverage is maintained for a good period of time more than you'd expect. Three seconds != coverage sack.

The other two plays he got ran around fairly easily and Romo wasn't holding it all that long. Sometimes guys aren't open initially and the line needs to hold a block for a second. If Colombo just holds up his guy a little bit it's not an issue on these plays, but he barely touched his guy, and was falling all over himself.

Imagine if the guys he was facing were some guys with real quickness and speed. It definitely wouldn't have looked like a coverage sack to you then.

 

[dfense]

Yes, he looked very shaky last night. Got beat several times on the first and 2nd drives. Let's hope its not a trend.

Our back-ups are sketchy as well. McQuistan, no power whatsoever, he got manhandled while playing tight end. Brewster, Young look like rookies so I will give them another year.

What are you guys talking about? I watched the game last night on NFL channel and specifically watched Columbo after I saw this thread.

He was fine. He stoned his guy several times. The only sack his guy got was when Romo basically stpped up in the pocket and dropped to the ground after 5 or 6 seconds. I did not see any problem with Columbo.

I'd be alot more worried about whoever his backup is going to be because they all suck behind him.

 

[CATCH17]

What are you guys talking about? I watched the game last night on NFL channel and specifically watched Columbo after I saw this thread.

He was fine. He stoned his guy several times. The only sack his guy got was when Romo basically stpped up in the pocket and dropped to the ground after 5 or 6 seconds. I did not see any problem with Columbo.

I'd be alot more worried about whoever his backup is going to be because they all suck behind him.

There were 3 sacks allowed by our 1st team against Romo and all 3 were Colombos man.

2 of the 3 I felt Colombo gave Romo enough time even though he got owned on the 2nd sack.

The pass down the sideline to Austin was poor awareness on Colombo too IMO even though it didn't end bad.

 

[Kevinicus]

What are you guys talking about? I watched the game last night on NFL channel and specifically watched Columbo after I saw this thread.

He was fine. He stoned his guy several times. The only sack his guy got was when Romo basically stpped up in the pocket and dropped to the ground after 5 or 6 seconds. I did not see any problem with Columbo.

I'd be alot more worried about whoever his backup is going to be because they all suck behind him.

Please use real seconds when evaluating, not the made up ones in your head.

 

[adbutcher]

Please use real seconds when evaluating, not the made up ones in your head.