Commanders safety Taylor has deal in assault case - ESPN.com *MERGED*

[CowboyWay]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/31/AR2006053102245.html





Basically a probation, slap on the wrist.

Well in my eyes he was guilty as sin, and I don't know too many people who would accept a plea bargain if they weren't guilty of something. It really doesn't matter though, he wasn't going to go to jail anyway. Hopefully he straightens up. He's got alot of ability, but damn, a five cent head on his shoulders too.

 

[jcblanco22]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/31/AR2006053102245.html





Basically a probation, slap on the wrist.

Well in my eyes he was guilty as sin, and I don't know too many people who would accept a plea bargain if they weren't guilty of something. It really doesn't matter though, he wasn't going to go to jail anyway. Hopefully he straightens up. He's got alot of ability, but damn, a five cent head on his shoulders too.

I agree kobe, not too surprising an outcome. Check out the link below for a real good background story on the whole Taylor incident from the beginning. It gives you a peek at the type of company he sometimes keeps too:

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/Issues/2006-05-25/news/feature.html

 

[AdamJT13]

Taylor most likely will be fined and/or suspended by the NFL. The league's Conduct Policy states --

"Any Covered Person convicted of or admitting to a criminal violation (including a plea to a lesser included offense; a plea of nolo contendere or no contest; or the acceptance of a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision, or similar arrangement) will be subject to discipline as determined by the Commissioner. Such discipline may include a fine, suspension without pay and/or banishment from the League."

Ray Lewis was fined $250,000 for pleading no contest to obstruction of justice. Taylor is pleading no contest to assault and battery, which are considered crimes of violence. Those are considered the most serious crimes in the Conduct Policy --

"It will be considered conduct detrimental for Covered Persons to engage in (or to aid, abet or conspire to engage in or to incite) violent and/or criminal activity. Examples of such Prohibited Conduct include, without limitation: any crime involving the use or threat of physical violence to a person or persons; the use of a deadly weapon in the commission of a crime; possession or distribution of a weapon in violation of state or federal law; involvement in "hate crimes" or crimes of domestic violence; theft, larceny or other property crimes; sex offenses; racketeering; money laundering; obstruction of justice; resisting arrest; fraud; and violent or threatening conduct."

Previously, players who have pleaded no contest to those types of charges have been suspended for one game (see Mike Doss, Leon Searcy, Leonardo Carson, Derrick Rodgers, Dwayne Carswell and Wayne Hunter, among others), so that's what I'd expect the NFL to do (unless it considers the crimes to be more serious because guns were involved, although Taylor denied that he had one).

 

[5Stars]

Taylor most likely will be fined and/or suspended by the NFL. The league's Conduct Policy states --

"Any Covered Person convicted of or admitting to a criminal violation (including a plea to a lesser included offense; a plea of nolo contendere or no contest; or the acceptance of a diversionary program, deferred adjudication, disposition of supervision, or similar arrangement) will be subject to discipline as determined by the Commissioner. Such discipline may include a fine, suspension without pay and/or banishment from the League."

Ray Lewis was fined $250,000 for pleading no contest to obstruction of justice. Taylor is pleading guilty to assault and battery, which are considered crimes of violence. Those are considered the most serious crimes in the Conduct Policy --

"It will be considered conduct detrimental for Covered Persons to engage in (or to aid, abet or conspire to engage in or to incite) violent and/or criminal activity. Examples of such Prohibited Conduct include, without limitation: any crime involving the use or threat of physical violence to a person or persons; the use of a deadly weapon in the commission of a crime; possession or distribution of a weapon in violation of state or federal law; involvement in "hate crimes" or crimes of domestic violence; theft, larceny or other property crimes; sex offenses; racketeering; money laundering; obstruction of justice; resisting arrest; fraud; and violent or threatening conduct."

Previously, players who have pleaded no contest to those types of charges have been suspended for one game (see Mike Doss, Leon Searcy, Leonardo Carson, Derrick Rodgers, Dwayne Carswell and Wayne Hunter, among others), so that's what I'd expect the NFL to do (unless it considers the crimes to be more serious because guns were involved, although Taylor denied that he had one).

Yeah, good luck with all that! With the Comish being a season ticket holder to the RedStinks? I bet that thug won't miss a beat!

 

[apickmans]

u bring up a good point Adam.

 

[aznhalf]

Previously, players who have pleaded no contest to those types of charges have been suspended for one game (see Mike Doss, Leon Searcy, Leonardo Carson, Derrick Rodgers, Dwayne Carswell and Wayne Hunter, among others), so that's what I'd expect the NFL to do (unless it considers the crimes to be more serious because guns were involved, although Taylor denied that he had one).

As long as he is back for Week 2 so Skins fans won't use it as an excuse. And it'll be nice to see TO burn him deep for 6:laugh1:

 

[AbeBeta]

Yeah, good luck with all that! With the Comish being a season ticket holder to the RedStinks? I bet that thug won't miss a beat!

Yawn.

I expect any commish to be a football fan -- and a rich one. Rich + fan = season ticket holder wherever you live.

Tags has never shown an ounce of favoritism. to suggest otherwise is plain ign'ant.

 

[MONT17]

Taylor will be fine when he finds out how bad Archuletta is at Safety, he should ask for no less than 15 million in bonus money!!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

well taking the plea means that the case against him was pretty strong

 

[skinsfunguy]

well taking the plea means that the case against him was pretty strong

You guys are unbelievable. In no way does this show that there was a strong cast againt him, in fact it could be just the opposite. In case you were not aware a please bargain was offered before that included no jail time but included a felony which taylor turned down due to the fact that he felt he was innocent. Now a plea bargain is offered that pretty much says he was in a fight and everything will pretty much be cleared if he accepts it. Wouldnt you accept this deal? You do not have to go through the vigors of court(which has been pushed back a thousand times, taking away from his team workouts). He is able to stay more focused, plus theres NO CHANCE of him seeing any jail time. If the prosecution really felt he was guilty and ACTUALLY had a gun, why would they drop this charge so that the case wouldnt go to court?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You guys are unbelievable. In no way does this show that there was a strong cast againt him

uh, taking a plea means that Taylor wanted to take a lesser charge than running the risk of spending 30+ years in jail

 

[bbgun]

How many times has this kid slipped the noose in this case? I still see jail in his future, whether it's tomorrow or 30 years from now.

 

[skinsfunguy]

uh, taking a plea means that Taylor wanted to take a lesser charge than running the risk of spending 30+ years in jail

If the prosecution truly felt sean taylor had a gun they would not have offered him a deal that dropped that charge. They obviously realized they didnt have a strong case so they offered a deal that could get them something. Sean Taylor accepted this deal because there will be no felonie charges against him and he will not have to go through a long played out trial which will take his focus away from football.

Plus, sure maybe he was a little scared he would lose when he accepted the deal, I mean anything can happen. Wouldnt you take this plea bargain if it assured you nothing bad could come of it and your record would be wiped clean of the entire incident?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If the prosecution truly felt sean taylor had a gun they would not have offered him a deal that dropped that charge.

pro athletes are getting great deals everyday, so I guess every pro athlete that got a great deal didn't have a strong case against them then? or do you have some special insight into the Sean Taylor case? DAs don't bring cases against someone on a wing and a prayer, they have to have enough evidence just to indict someone, shoot just the other day a Los Angeles Angel's player ran from the cops and he isn't going to jail

 

[skinsfunguy]

pro athletes are getting great deals everyday, so I guess every pro athlete that got a great deal didn't have a strong case against them then? or do you have some special insight into the Sean Taylor case? DAs don't bring cases against someone on a wing and a prayer, they have to have enough evidence just to indict someone, shoot just the other day a Los Angeles Angel's player ran from the cops and he isn't going to jail

If you were to follow this case closely you would have known that noone on the other side wanted to give sean taylor a slap on the wrist. They were using this case to make a statement, something they were not able to do. The reason they were not able to do this was because their case was not strong enough simple as that. If it were they wouldnt have given him such a good option. Like I said earlier they tried to bait taylor earlier with a plea bargain that included no jail time but he'd have to take a felony on his record, taylor turned it down because he felt he was innocent and that hed rather go to trial and prove that than accept a felony.

Also if you paid any attention to sports you'd know that it was a Cleveland Indian player and do you know why he ran from the cops? It was because he let someone who was drunk drive his car. Do you really think you go to jail for that? Come on, how many times did you run from the cops when you were a teenager when a party got busted. It's not like the guy ran in his car, he got out and ran.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If you were to follow this case closely you would have known that noone on the other side wanted to give sean taylor a slap on the wrist. They were using this case to make a statement, something they were not able to do. The reason they were not able to do this was because their case was not strong enough simple as that. If it were they wouldnt have given him such a good option. Like I said earlier they tried to bait taylor earlier with a plea bargain that included no jail time but he'd have to take a felony on his record, taylor turned it down because he felt he was innocent and that hed rather go to trial and prove that than accept a felony.

dude, again, DAs can't indict someone unless there is enough evidence to convict, a trial is all about convicing a jury of someone's guilt, you could have all the evidence in the world, and present your case wrong, and the defendent will get off scotch free, DAs aren't looking to make statements, they are seeking justice, the notion that the MIami state attorneys office was after Taylor is nonsense, the case against him was legitimate, to say the DA's case wasn't strong enough, you would have to have access to all the evidence, files, witness statements, police reports and more, but to say it was strong enough, all you need to know is that the DA went ahead and indicted him

 

[skinsfunguy]

dude, again, DAs can't indict someone unless there is enough evidence to convict, a trial is all about convicing a jury of someone's guilt, you could have all the evidence in the world, and present your case wrong, and the defendent will get off scotch free, DAs aren't looking to make statements, they are seeking justice, the notion that the MIami state attorneys office was after Taylor is nonsense, the case against him was legitimate

you REALLY werent following this case were you? The lead prosecuter and hopeful DA was dismissed from the case due to the fact he was using it to promote his dj business. He was CLEARLY using this case for reasons other than justice. That man is now currently unemployed, please get your facts straight.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

you REALLY werent following this case were you? The lead prosecuter and hopeful DA was dismissed from the case due to the fact he was using it to promote his dj business. He was CLEARLY using this case for reasons other than justice. That man is now currently unemployed, please get your facts straight.

:laugh1: that's all you got? even still, after he was replaced, the state of Florida still decided to pursue the case

 

[BigDFan5]

you REALLY werent following this case were you? The lead prosecuter and hopeful DA was dismissed from the case due to the fact he was using it to promote his dj business. He was CLEARLY using this case for reasons other than justice. That man is now currently unemployed, please get your facts straight.

How exactly was he "promoting" a DJ business, he had links to published articles on a myspace page, it was not his personal commentary just links to news sites. The defense went on a witch hunt and got him to leave the case.

Facts are facts the prosecution had enough evidence to indict him, and obviously enough to make aylor plead guilty to something all Commanders fans said he didnt do.

 

[skinsfunguy]

:laugh1: that's all you got? even still, after he was replaced, the state of Florida still decided to pursue the case

And another person was given the job as the lead prosecuter and after a few weeks he offered a plea bargain guranteeing Taylor would be in no trouble. This was a deal Greco wouldnt have considered offering. MAYBE this is because Greco was using this case for reasons OTHER THAN JUSTICE(sound famililar) and the new lead prosecuter saw that there was NO evdience that sean taylor threatened anyone with a gun.