Commanders sign Bowen **merged**

phillycowboyslover;4012122 said:
it's not that I liked bowen....but he knew the system and was decent. surely we're in for a downgrade now.....?

:starspin

But the system is changing. Somebody knew that he wasn't 5 mil per season entering a new season.
 
I think this definitely means we're signing at least one of Kenon Coleman or Robaire Smith.

And if we can get them cheap - which is likely, maybe we spend the extra coin for what would be an upgrade in Cullen Jenkins?

Anyone know the cap hit for cutting/trading Olshansky?

Because I think if they sign both Browns DE's and Jenkins, Olshansky may get shipped out in the process.
 
bbgun;4012123 said:
I know people love to minimize any and all signings by the Skins, but this one hurt. Not like we're losing a Pro Bowler, but he was a good rotation guy that Ryan supposedly loved. Plus, we were already thin on the d-line.

It only hurts if you can't replace him. If some how the Cowboys sign Jenkins, (and he can stay healthy) we didn't get hurt one bit. We upgraded.

If we pick Coleman up again, we probably we probably stayed at status quo. (maybe a slight edge to run defense)
 
nyc;4012484 said:
It only hurts if you can't replace him. If some how the Cowboys sign Jenkins, (and he can stay healthy) we didn't get hurt one bit. We upgraded.

If we pick Coleman up again, we probably we probably stayed at status quo. (maybe a slight edge to run defense)

I was really worried we were going to break the bank on Jenkins. 30 year old with injury history just off a Superbowl win. Typical Snyderatto signing.

Bowen was the backup plan. With the cap space we got, 12.5 million is the right contract for a 27 year old. Would have hated to pay 18 million for a 30 year old Jenkins
 
Everlastingxxx;4012462 said:
Why are you picking on TheSport78? Jerry Jones let a good player get away. They are upset about it.

BTW, i have loved Twitter this past week. So much cool information being passed around.

he can't sign everyone and he has to balance a lot of things we as fans simply don't understand. so the blind bashing of jones to me has a long history of being old and out of place.

it's my own pavlovs dogs response, sorry.

and great. i never said twitter was without merit - only i don't want to see it so i avoid twitter, but that doesn't do any good.
 
The30YardSlant;4012403 said:
Why are people freaking out? Bowen was hardly a Pro-Bowl talent and we'll be trading up if we sign Cullen Jenkins.

What a weird straw man. This has been a really reserved, "Aw, shucks, we wanted him but that seems pretty expensive! Best of luck!" thread.

Did you even read the thread before posting?
 
don't know if this has been mentioned....but the old regime noticed what we had in Ratliff and got him locked BEFORE they had to. Why did the Wade regime not notice Bowen and do something sooner when Dallas had the leverage?
 
SkinsHokieFan;4012501 said:
I was really worried we were going to break the bank on Jenkins. 30 year old with injury history just off a Superbowl win. Typical Snyderatto signing.

Bowen was the backup plan. With the cap space we got, 12.5 million is the right contract for a 27 year old. Would have hated to pay 18 million for a 30 year old Jenkins


In the skins current condition, I think going with the younger guy was the right choice too.

Jenkins would have hurt your chances at getting Andrew Luck.
 
SkinsHokieFan;4012501 said:
I was really worried we were going to break the bank on Jenkins. 30 year old with injury history just off a Superbowl win. Typical Snyderatto signing.

Bowen was the backup plan. With the cap space we got, 12.5 million is the right contract for a 27 year old. Would have hated to pay 18 million for a 30 year old Jenkins


I'd give a bit more for Jenkins. I'm not turned off by his age at all. He was a huge force for GB last year and is twice the rusher Bowen is. ;)

I guess you need to talk yourself into feeling better about the Bowen deal. It's all good.

  • Bowen was never a started
  • Bowen is poop against the run
  • Nice bullrush though - thats worth 12.5 guaranteed by the skins take
 
SkinsHokieFan;4012501 said:
I was really worried we were going to break the bank on Jenkins. 30 year old with injury history just off a Superbowl win. Typical Snyderatto signing.

Bowen was the backup plan. With the cap space we got, 12.5 million is the right contract for a 27 year old. Would have hated to pay 18 million for a 30 year old Jenkins

Yeah, I'm not hip to paying a ton for him either. If he could stay healthy year in and year out, he would definitely be worth the money though.
 
iceberg;4012502 said:
he can't sign everyone and he has to balance a lot of things we as fans simply don't understand. so the blind bashing of jones to me has a long history of being old and out of place.

it's my own pavlovs dogs response, sorry.

and great. i never said twitter was without merit - only i don't want to see it so i avoid twitter, but that doesn't do any good.

I don't see how saying Jerry would panic and sign the top DE available is "bashing."
 
Dallas;4012517 said:
I'd give a bit more for Jenkins. I'm not turned off by his age at all. He was a huge force for GB last year and is twice the rusher Bowen is. ;)

I guess you need to talk yourself into feeling better about the Bowen deal. It's all good.
  • Bowen was never a started
  • Bowen is poop against the run
  • Nice bullrush though - thats worth 12.5 guaranteed by the skins take

I don't know the team anything like you guys, but a lot of the Dallas beat reporters are saying it's a pretty serious loss, that he was set to be a starter this year.

I'm not saying the Commanders contract was justified, but he'll be a noticeable loss from what I can tell.
 
Dallas;4012517 said:
I'd give a bit more for Jenkins. I'm not turned off by his age at all. He was a huge force for GB last year and is twice the rusher Bowen is. ;)

I guess you need to talk yourself into feeling better about the Bowen deal. It's all good.

  • Bowen was never a started
  • Bowen is poop against the run
  • Nice bullrush though - thats worth 12.5 guaranteed by the skins take

His age isn't an issue. You just limit him to a max contract of four years. What mostly concerns me is his injury history of late. Only two of the last five years has he played all 16 games.
 
SkinsFan82;4012531 said:
I don't know the team anything like you guys, but a lot of the Dallas beat reporters are saying it's a pretty serious loss, that he was set to be a starter this year.

They (Dallas media) cry wolf on everything. Whatever gets the fans up in arms and reading / watching their sports page / broadcast.

Set to be a starter? Not if the Cowboys also resigned Marcus Spears which they are trying to do.
 
AsthmaField;4012514 said:
In the skins current condition, I think going with the younger guy was the right choice too.

Jenkins would have hurt your chances at getting Andrew Luck.

One more factoid for the rest of the day. I also think we have taken ourselves out of the Luck sweepstakes, but still have a poor roster. Might be in the Landry Jones sweepstakes now

RickMaeseRick Maese



Commanders appear to be more than $30 million below salary cap http://t.co/jyBDIWk

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ting-veterans/2011/07/28/gIQA5NpJfI_blog.html
 
SkinsFan82;4012531 said:
I don't know the team anything like you guys, but a lot of the Dallas beat reporters are saying it's a pretty serious loss, that he was set to be a starter this year.

I'm not saying the Commanders contract was justified, but he'll be a noticeable loss from what I can tell.

A noticeable loss in that the team now needs to sign a serviceable rotation DE (which is all that Bowen was)? Sure,,,

this is an opportunity for Jerry to seek an upgrade replacement, which would make me happy,,, we will see.
 
Probably not the right thread to throw this, but Commanders are 30+ million under the cap. Guess that's why they had cash to throw at Bowen.

http://t.co/jyBDIWk

Edit: Hokie beat me to it. :)
 
EGG;4012545 said:
A noticeable loss in that the team now needs to sign a serviceable rotation DE (which is all that Bowen was)? Sure,,,

One would think that at some point last year he would have pushed Igor out of the mix completely. At least in those last 8 games. Probably because he was so bad at run support.

Nope. He was still the same guy. Very nice rotation piece.
 

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