Commanders sign Bowen **merged**

[SkinsHokieFan]

Do you remember Brandon Noble? Bowen is version 2011. Just sayin'.

Noble's knee also got torn to shreds in his 2nd preseason game in DC. Poor guy was never the same after that, it was a miracle he even attempted to play football again

 

[Duane]

Would you have panned him in the same way had we re-signed him? Doubtful. Just because he defects to the Skins doesn't make him a bum.

A lot of people would have been glad to get a solid player still in his 20s.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Would you have panned him in the same way had we re-signed him? Doubtful. Just because he defects to the Skins doesn't make him a bum.

Agreed. He might even break out this year.

If they hadnt dun goofed on so many moves pick-wise and contract-wise I wouldnt mind him at that price.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Just because he defects to the Skins doesn't make him a bum.

I have to disagree with this part of your statement. :laugh2:

 

[CATCH17]

Would you have panned him in the same way had we re-signed him? Doubtful. Just because he defects to the Skins doesn't make him a bum.

I would have.

He's been a touch above Jag while he was here in Dallas. Just a role player.

Not anywhere close to being a 6 mill a year player.

 

[bbgun]

A lot of people would have been glad to get a solid player still in his 20s.

Agreed. Jenkins is undeniably better when healthy and motivated, but upside is a question. Maybe the money could be better spent spread out over several players. Don't ask me who.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Agreed. He might even break out this year.

Bowen? Exactly what is a breakout year? Five sacks? Does his weak run defense negate any of the sacks value if he does get five? What about if he ends up only a one down (3rd pass rush specialist) player...at 5 years $27M.

 

[Dale]

I would have.

He's been a touch above Jag while he was here in Dallas. Just a role player.

Not anywhere close to being a 6 mill a year player.

I'm in the same boat. Would have loved to have him back, but not at $30 million.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

He will not leave Green Bay if they want him back. They can pay him as much as Dallas can.

It also may not be a good use of money though. Yes they have the cap room, but they already have BJ Raji entering his third year and Ryan Pickett signed, they may not want to match a deal at 7+ per

 

[Chocolate Lab]

One would think that at some point last year he would have pushed Igor out of the mix completely. At least in those last 8 games. Probably because he was so bad at run support.

Nope. He was still the same guy. Very nice rotation piece.

Someone had to start on the left side when Spears was hurt, right.

And as for the Brandon Noble comparisons, they aren't close to the same. Noble really was a "blocker magnet" (Campo FTW) in that he couldn't do much but clog things up. Bowen is just the opposite, an athletic pass rusher who they hope can play the run.

Personally, I always thought Bowen wasn't a starting-type 34 DE... He's sort of narrow and tall, almost like a blown-up basketball player. When I heard Ryan's praise for him, I always wondered if he meant as a full time player or just what he did in pass-rush situations.

I don't know, maybe after a few years in the weight room, he's ready to play the run as well.

don't know if this has been mentioned....but the old regime noticed what we had in Ratliff and got him locked BEFORE they had to. Why did the Wade regime not notice Bowen and do something sooner when Dallas had the leverage?

That *was* the Wade regime that signed Ratliff. Maybe Bowen wanted to test the market, or maybe like likely happened with Free, Jerry wasn't counting on these RFAs becoming unrestricted.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Incarceratedbob
**UPDATED NFL NEWS**Source: Looks like the Cowboys are now in lead for Jenkins with the Packers still in it & now Browns have inquired

he's an idiot. he tweeted all sorts of stuff in the Melo NJ/NY trade talks.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Bowen? Exactly what is a breakout year? Five sacks? Does his weak run defense negate any of the sacks value if he does get five? What about if he ends up only a one down (3rd pass rush specialist) player...at 5 years $27M.

For a legit-pass rusher thats not so bad. Charles Johnson got $70M. It could turn out to be a steal.


My initial contract prediction for him was I think 3/15. And then later I was telling someone that value was about right but maybe add on some years b/c you might want to hit a home-run similar to the Jay Ratliff contract.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

he's an idiot. he tweeted all sorts of stuff in the Melo NJ/NY trade talks.

Dwight to the Lakers is already a done-deal in his head. Right in the middle of a year long lockout they got that deal done w/o knowing any ramifications(Or if their will be a tag). Impressive

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Have you seen him play? Jenkins automatically gives the Cowboys a push up the middle that they have never had before. That gives Ware and Spencer a more direct route to the qb.

have you been living under a rock? there's this guy named Jay Ratliff ever heard of him?

last year was an off year, but Jenkins will provide the push we were missing last year, but had the past 3-4 years from Ratliff

 

[iceberg]

If the Cowboys sign a player, it a “good move” if they let one go its because “we can’t sign everyone”. Doesn’t matter, there is no room for criticism in your book. Bowen was a guy Rob Ryan liked. I would trust his opinion. He fits into his rush the passer scheme. It’s a loss, no doubt about it.

Do you realize most of the information coming into the forum is from Twitter?

did i say every signing is a good move? no. so please address what i say.

and apparantly we CAN'T sign everyone, can we? should we try? no. we know bowen better than the skins. if jones/garrett felt he were worth it they'd match and not be in such a "panic" situation.

i never said it wasn't a loss. i said jones isn't one to go panic to replace depth on the DL and i don't think jones is making most of the calls anyway so to bash him to me is habit, not watching what is going on now.

you are more than free to disagree with me. i'll even help you if i can.

as for "information" coming from twitter. sorry. broken english and thoughts contained to 180 characters forcing grown adults to use jr high txting isn't for me.

if sentence fragments constitutes news to you great. go read it. but so far this is twice you've brought it up against me and i've not said anything about it lately other than to reply to you and your constant barrage of it.

if you don't want me talking about twitter (of which i have not lately and i even thanked joe the other day for keeping it in 1 thread which helped BOTH sides deal with it) then shut up.

 

[TheSport78]

did i say every signing is a good move? no. so please address what i say.

and apparantly we CAN'T sign everyone, can we? should we try? no. we know bowen better than the skins. if jones/garrett felt he were worth it they'd match and not be in such a "panic" situation.

i never said it wasn't a loss. i said jones isn't one to go panic to replace depth on the DL and i don't think jones is making most of the calls anyway so to bash him to me is habit, not watching what is going on now.

you are more than free to disagree with me. i'll even help you if i can.

as for "information" coming from twitter. sorry. broken english and thoughts contained to 180 characters forcing grown adults to use jr high txting isn't for me.

if sentence fragments constitutes news to you great. go read it. but so far this is twice you've brought it up against me and i've not said anything about it lately other than to reply to you and your constant barrage of it.

if you don't want me talking about twitter (of which i have not lately and i even thanked joe the other day for keeping it in 1 thread which helped BOTH sides deal with it) then shut up.

Oh, the irony.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Agreed. Jenkins is undeniably better when healthy and motivated, but upside is a question. Maybe the money could be better spent spread out over several players. Don't ask me who.

I get the injury history, and share that concern (I would also contend it's also going to make him cheaper than some are expecting), but I'm wondering where you're getting all these question about Jenkins' motivation. The guy came into the league as an undrafted free agent and worked his way up the ladder. He was hardly making chump change in his last contract, 4 years, $16 million. If he wanted to mail it in, he could have done it a long time ago. His track record is pretty well established. From all accounts, he's a hard worker, a good teammate and a guy who loves to play football.

 

[iceberg]

Oh, the irony.

yea, all over the place, huh?

 

[bbgun]

I get the injury history, and share that concern (I would also contend it's also going to make him cheaper than some are expecting), but I'm wondering where you're getting all these question about Jenkins' motivation. The guy came into the league as an undrafted free agent and worked his way up the ladder. He was hardly making chump change in his last contract, 4 years, $16 million. If he wanted to mail it in, he could have done it a long time ago. From all accounts, he's an extremely hard worker, a good teammate and a guy who loves to play football.

You could also say that he was motivated to play for one last big contract, which could come from us. Will he be as motivated when he gets $20M guaranteed? Maybe, maybe not. Also, going from the world champions to a lesser team is bound to affect anyone's psyche.

 

[InmanRoshi]

You could also say that he was motivated to play for one last big contract, which could come from us

That concern could be had of absolutely any and every free agent.

If anything it would be a bigger concern for Bowen, considering he's never played under a big money contract.