Competition at all positions, Necessary or Non-applicable?

Is Competition Necessary at all positions?


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Cowboy06

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Some time back, I offended some by saying I wanted some starters pushed off this roster. Not because I don't like them, but because I haven't seen the lift I want to see as a Cowboys fan. Mind you, what I know about the overall game of football couldn't fill shot glass compared to those that have spent their lives in football. However, I look at what many would consider the greats and I see a common thread...competition at all positions. Good, nor great is sufficient.

See:https://hbr.org/1993/01/to-build-a-winning-team-an-interview-with-head-coach-bill-walsh

Per Bill Walsh "The other example is the injury factor. Some teams come unraveled when a star player gets injured. With the 49ers, an injury often served to arouse the team to play harder. Again, my approach was to talk about it openly. I would make the point that reserve players always had to be prepared, and that when they got the chance, they should actually improve on the performance of the injured player. Again, I used historical examples from warfare. For instance, in the Civil War, the best trained people, the front line and even generals, were often the first to fall. Often it was the reserves who would achieve victory. So when our reserves took the field, they were conditioned to feel this way and they knew what was expected. They would feel much more positive about going into the game."


You could say that the game has changed, but I contend that the game is still simple: Block, tackle, and protect the ball. Why do we as fans have the fear of our favorites from being replaced? If a starter is replaced does that not mean you team is better save for injuries or salary cap replacements?

Is second place good enough? How long must you see a good player play before you realize that they don't have "it"? How long will you say they need a better OL, DL, better WRs, or a better running game? Does Brady always have the best, what about Rodgers? Did Seattle really have that much better of a defense or were they simply more than the sum of their parts? See:http://www.vincelombardi.com/number-one.html

So, I hope that all positions have competition. I want to see all starters striving for more. I miss the Jimmy Johnson years where all starters had some notion that good enough wasn't good enough. How many times have we said of late that some players appear fat or other of shape? Where is the asthma field when you need it? See: .

Am I not suggesting that Jason Garrett is not a good coach, but does he make players the best they can be? Is that what we expect from our coaches? How much is left up to the players? What is the philosophy of the coach? Is he playing checkers or chess? Is competition about the current play or the series of plays during the game that result in victory. Does Garrett have plan? I certainly hope so. See Landry's approach:
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20069811,00.html

"Landry explains that he is so absorbed in strategy during a game he has no time to react. "If you see me showing emotion, then I'm not doing my job." Under the Landry system, that job is to call every Cowboy play, sending them into the huddle with substitutes. Like a chess master, his mind is racing so far ahead of the action that Landry is barely aware of what's happening on the field at any given moment."

Perhaps Mr. Garrett would do well to stop with the clapping and back slapping? Well perhaps that has NOTHING to do with competition.

So let me ask you all this... If Romo, Witten, even Zeke aren't the best players, would you be upset if others start and play? I want all good players to be pushed off the roster so that better players get on the field. That doesn't mean I don't want Romo, Witten or Zeke. I just want them always improve because that means more happy Sundays this year.

So do you want competition or the status quo?
 

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Sigh...posted this and I'm already wishing it was the first week of the season..LOL This is truly the most boring time of the year...
 

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If somebody wants Romo or anybody else to start, just because...they aren't doing it the right way

This is a dallas cowboys fan site...not a romo fan club or anybody else on the team

Competition pushes players...it's an absolute must
 

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I'm all for competition. We need to hold players accountable, and let them know they need to continue to work hard or be replaced. I want to see FAs brought into to create competition at the DE, CB, TE, WR, and back up QB spots. There's nothing wrong with competition
 

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If somebody wants Romo or anybody else to start, just because...they aren't doing it the right way

This is a dallas cowboys fan site...not a romo fan club or anybody else on the team

Competition pushes players...it's an absolute must

Grrrr you said in a few words what took me an hour to compose..LOL....Stay away you make me look bad..
 

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yes, I want fierce competition where no player ever feels his job is safe

Well I would love to see some of the starters have to sit if they don't perform in the middle of the game...ummmm isn't that how Romo got his job? I still remember that Monday night game...I was like "yessss!!!" finally someone that wants to play the game...now I am like...I want to see Romo play as if he knows he can be replaced...and sadly I'm a HUGE Romo fan. I just know he has something left in the tank and needs to dig deep <knowing that is going to bring out the bashers and haters in some> but I want all players to fear failure...not to say you get benched for a mistake...but MISTAKES <plural> shouldn't be tolerated anymore.
 

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I call it "starter mentality" once they become a starter, they only need to have a few good games,
and not get hurt.
Do that and they wont be benched unless they are really bad.
 

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Well I would love to see some of the starters have to sit if they don't perform in the middle of the game...ummmm isn't that how Romo got his job? I still remember that Monday night game...I was like "yessss!!!" finally someone that wants to play the game...now I am like...I want to see Romo play as if he knows he can be replaced...and sadly I'm a HUGE Romo fan. I just know he has something left in the tank and needs to dig deep <knowing that is going to bring out the bashers and haters in some> but I want all players to fear failure...not to say you get benched for a mistake...but MISTAKES <plural> shouldn't be tolerated anymore.

Yes when you have roster full of talent at every position you can do that. With today's NFL the fastest way to lose a locker room is to bench a guy giving 75% effort for a guy that will most likely give 110% effort but perform even more poorly. The NFL is shifting there will be less coaches like Belichick, Landry, Walsh, Johnson, and more like the group they have in Miami, etc.
 

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Sigh...posted this and I'm already wishing it was the first week of the season..LOL This is truly the most boring time of the year...

OTA's start Tuesday, and with those and mini camp around 2nd week of June. It's something to talk about the next 3 weeks. Then from mid June to late July is actually worse. Especially when the only thing on is golf, nascar, though nascar can be background noise, barf on both, and the ever exciting home run derby and the all star game....:banghead:...yeah, it will be great....that time is boring, though this time is too, just not nearly as bad....
 

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So, you have a kicker we invited to camp out-kick Bailey who shanked a few? Do you replace Bailey and start the rook? Not Necessarily.
 

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I am all for competition. It makes every player better, so the team is better. No one should be comfortable at their position. The problem with having a deep roster, is that those players eventually leave as a FA. With that and the salary cap, we will not see as many deep rosters. All that started going away in the mid 90's. Some teams have done very well though, that that eventually will chnge, as the can't keep a deep roster.
Does anyone really believe garaoppolo or however you spell it, can take over for Brady...he has no one pushing him for that spot. Now maybe they get lucky and he does. Maybe the y don't.
GB did it with Favre / Rodgers, but he was a 1st round pick.

You can have players pushing others, but it won't happen at QB. OL usually get entrenched, and then only replaced from age or injury. Most other positions you can do this with.
 

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So those that say you should have competition at all positions all the time.
Does that mean Green Bay is failing because Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady don't have true competition?
What about Aikman, Michael, or Emmitt in their prime?

Competition IS very important. But come on, let's honest here.

Anyway, I doubt there are any starters on Dallas that don't want competition.
 

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Should be that way. Should be compatition at every position but it doesn't happen that way.
 

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I am all for competition. It makes every player better, so the team is better. No one should be comfortable at their position. The problem with having a deep roster, is that those players eventually leave as a FA. With that and the salary cap, we will not see as many deep rosters. All that started going away in the mid 90's. Some teams have done very well though, that that eventually will chnge, as the can't keep a deep roster.
Does anyone really believe garaoppolo or however you spell it, can take over for Brady...he has no one pushing him for that spot. Now maybe they get lucky and he does. Maybe the y don't.
GB did it with Favre / Rodgers, but he was a 1st round pick.

You can have players pushing others, but it won't happen at QB. OL usually get entrenched, and then only replaced from age or injury. Most other positions you can do this with.

I actually think Garoppolo can be good.
 

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So those that say you should have competition at all positions all the time.
Does that mean Green Bay is failing because Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady don't have true competition?
What about Aikman, Michael, or Emmitt in their prime?

Competition IS very important. But come on, let's honest here.

Anyway, I doubt there are any starters on Dallas that don't want competition.

I think it means that they can't find anybody on the planet who can give them good competition. It's one thing to want it, it's another to be able to provide it. Still another to afford to bring in anybody, assuming there is someone, who can actually compete for a job against a Rodgers or Brady.
 

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It's not really applicable. For instance, signing Dez to the contract we signed him to basically guarantees him a spot. But it doesn't guarantee a spot to somebody like T-Will.

Another problem is that often times players can look better in practice than the veteran and may look better in the first few games of the season, but as the season progresses, they regress dramatically while the veteran stays the same.

I think the best coaches try to make it a competition for all positions the best that they most reasonably can do it. From there, the best coaches understand that coaching players...in any sport...is an individualized process. What works for one player to get them to perform to their potential may work terribly for another player. I wouldn't think of coaching Larry Allen the same way as I would coach Erik Williams.







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If somebody wants Romo or anybody else to start, just because...they aren't doing it the right way

This is a dallas cowboys fan site...not a romo fan club or anybody else on the team

Competition pushes players...it's an absolute must

Some veterans build up enough a reputation where one bad offseason (or more likely, resting during the offseason rather than competing) isn't going to be enough to lose them their jobs.

That is not unusual for any business. You're not going to fire your top performer simply because they had a bad few weeks, or were out sick for an extended period.

That said, if that same guy comes back from his time off and a new guy has stepped up in his absence, there will certainly be pressure on the veteran to return to form quickly.
 

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I think in all sports it is good to have people pushing one another instead of players taking their position for granted. vet starters will always get some benefit of the doubt but if backup is continually pushing the starter for playing time and produces once that time is earned then to me that is the nature of sports and what keeps players and teams moving forward.
 
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