Conditional Trades

[xwalker]

If a team trades away a player and receives a conditional 7th in return, that means the player must accomplish something (remain on the new team's roster or play over a certain number of games, etc.).

That means it is basically a free look at the player for the new team.

If the Cowboys can't get a conditional 7th for a player that obviously has possible upside, then something is going on beyond the obvious, IMO.

How many remember the La'el draft story where his agent warned teams not to draft him?

Could an agent be killing possible trades by telling other teams not to trade for the player?

 

[DogFace]

I’ll guess yes

 

[ChuckA1]

That's an interesting thought that would explain a lot today.

 

[Ron12]

If a team trades away a player and receives a conditional 7th in return, that means the player must accomplish something (remain on the new team's roster or play over a certain number of games, etc.).

That means it is basically a free look at the player for the new team.

If the Cowboys can't get a conditional 7th for a player that obviously has possible upside, then something is going on beyond the obvious, IMO.

How many remember the La'el draft story where his agent warned teams not to draft him?

Could an agent be killing possible trades by telling other teams not to trade for the player?

No look at the player a mistake by the Cowboys 27 games 4 sacks is no big deal why would anyone give up anything for Taco

 

[Ron12]

That's an interesting thought that would explain a lot today.

I don't believe it that is total BS .

 

[Sydla]

If a team trades away a player and receives a conditional 7th in return, that means the player must accomplish something (remain on the new team's roster or play over a certain number of games, etc.).

That means it is basically a free look at the player for the new team.

If the Cowboys can't get a conditional 7th for a player that obviously has possible upside, then something is going on beyond the obvious, IMO.

How many remember the La'el draft story where his agent warned teams not to draft him?

Could an agent be killing possible trades by telling other teams not to trade for the player?

And then is he going to tell teams not to put a waiver claim in on him? Or am I incorrect that he wouldn't be on waivers?

I guess the point you are making is that the agent is trying to work it so Taco can go where he wants but that's really not that easy especially with waivers involved.

I think the simpler answer is that Taco simply doesn't have that much value around the league. He's a guy who has not really developed that much and might have some motivation issues. The Cowboys have pretty much put a neon light above his head saying he's going to be cut given they've had him inactive while guys like Armstrong and rookie Jackson have been active. For many teams, a conditional 7th rounder might be too much for a guy that will, likely, get cut anyway. So wait it out, save the pick and put in a waiver claim.

If you get him, great. If you don't, well did you really lose anything?

 

[John813]

Can't wait for the beat writers to tell us why his value was nada once he is cut.

 

[AbeBeta]

If a team trades away a player and receives a conditional 7th in return, that means the player must accomplish something (remain on the new team's roster or play over a certain number of games, etc.).

That means it is basically a free look at the player for the new team.

If the Cowboys can't get a conditional 7th for a player that obviously has possible upside, then something is going on beyond the obvious, IMO.

How many remember the La'el draft story where his agent warned teams not to draft him?

Could an agent be killing possible trades by telling other teams not to trade for the player?

The obvious thing you are overlooking is the guaranteed money in the contract.

 

[Ron12]

And then is he going to tell teams not to put a waiver claim in on him?

If you knew how the league runs the agent can not do that its illegal

 

[JD_KaPow]

If a team trades away a player and receives a conditional 7th in return, that means the player must accomplish something (remain on the new team's roster or play over a certain number of games, etc.).

That means it is basically a free look at the player for the new team.

If the Cowboys can't get a conditional 7th for a player that obviously has possible upside, then something is going on beyond the obvious, IMO.

How many remember the La'el draft story where his agent warned teams not to draft him?

Could an agent be killing possible trades by telling other teams not to trade for the player?

It's not a free look. They have to assume his contract if they trade for him. If they wait for him to be cut, they can sign him for whatever the minimum is with no guaranteed money at all.

 

[JohnBoy]

If you knew how the league runs the agent can not do that its illegal

So is speeding, but people get away with it every day.

 

[ChuckA1]

I don't believe it that is total BS .

I wasn't the OP, I just think it's an interesting thought that could explain why we couldn't find a trade partner.

 

[Sydla]

It's not a free look. They have to assume his contract if they trade for him. If they wait for him to be cut, they can sign him for whatever the minimum is with no guaranteed money at all.

Yep. At signing his signing bonus, 2018 base salary and 2019 base salary were guaranteed. His 2019 base salary is $1.376MM. So any team picking him up in a trade is on the hook for that salary.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

If a team trades away a player and receives a conditional 7th in return, that means the player must accomplish something (remain on the new team's roster or play over a certain number of games, etc.).

That means it is basically a free look at the player for the new team.

If the Cowboys can't get a conditional 7th for a player that obviously has possible upside, then something is going on beyond the obvious, IMO.

How many remember the La'el draft story where his agent warned teams not to draft him?

Could an agent be killing possible trades by telling other teams not to trade for the player?

Probably not. He'd be subject to the waiver wire and could just as easily end up in a situation just as bad.

 

[CB61]

No look at the player a mistake by the Cowboys 27 games 4 sacks is no big deal why would anyone give up anything for Taco

Especially everyone in this league is smart enough to know that Dallas will just release him and he has been done for a while in Dallas that's not a big secret can sign him to a lot of favorable terms as a free agent

 

[Alexander]

Could an agent be killing possible trades by telling other teams not to trade for the player?

I would highly doubt that. Collins wanted to be a free agent, determine where he goes and name his price.

Charlton won't be able to command anything. This would be a very stupid strategy by his agent.

 

[CouchCoach]

Risk v reward, a smart agent would not get involved. The relationship between the owners/GM's and agents is strained, at best, and all they need is a reason to toss an agent's accreditation and try to make life hard on all of them. And doing anything on the sly in the NFL is improbable, they can't keep secrets about anything.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Especially everyone in this league is smart enough to know that Dallas will just release him and he has been done for a while in Dallas that's not a big secret can sign him to a lot of favorable terms as a free agent

He's subject to waivers

 

[Sydla]

So to sum this up.

Try to find a way to make it seem like the Cowboys were possibly victims here in a trade with the agent screwing the Cowboys. Told it makes no sense.

End of thread.

 

[Alexander]

So to sum this up.

Try to find a way to make it seem like the Cowboys were possibly victims here in a trade with the agent screwing the Cowboys. Told it makes no sense.

End of thread.

Never underestimate how far the rationalizations will go to deviate from the real answer here: Dallas blew the pick in an epic way.