Confusion + Pressure + Dez Give Up = INT

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I'm always fascinated by what happens during the course of a play that leads to it's success or failure and I thought I would pass this along for those who also like stuff like this.

It's a dissection (with pics) by Jonathan Bales of the DMN on Romo's INT.
This is right out of a CouchScout type of post which I love because what happened is not what you think happened.

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...oys-how-the-seahawks-confused-tony-romo.html/

If you don't want to read the whole article here is the explanation on what led to the interception broken down into three parts.

1. The Seahawks ability to confuse Romo on disguised blitz packages when he rarely gets confused. When they looked like they were going to blitz they pulled out and when they did blitz they disguised it, unlike what the Giants did last week. Since 2009, Romo has a similar passer rating whether teams blitz him or not. When they show blitz and indeed come, however, his passer rating (120.9) is 41.5 points higher than when they blitz after not showing it. Similarly, his passer rating is 40.1 points higher when defenses line up conservatively and don’t blitz as compared to showing blitz and then backing out. On this play they faked the blitz, pulled out, then dropped a defensive end (Clemens) into coverage which caused Romo to hesitate.

2. When Romo recognized Clemens dropping in coverage he hesitated and immediately had pressure in his face. Since he had nowhere else to go he tried to throw the ball away to what he knew should have been an open space except for...

3. Dez gave up on the play. Once Dez saw Tony hesitate and get pressure he flat out quit on his route freeing his defender Brandon Browner to make a play on the ball.

So what appears to us as a bad throw/decision, we now see how the play actually broke down. I believe these elements, while small in the course of a play are a part of the big picture of the team.

Of the three, Romo's reads are the least of the concerns although according to these numbers I think other teams will continue to try to disguise blitz packages which could cause him trouble. I wish he would just throw the ball out of bounds sometimes but in this play he had very little options other than taking a sack but he tried to save the play.

The pressure can be attributed to simply not being good enough on the offensive line, those guys are going to get beat, we're just going to have to accept it.

The fact that Dez still has not grasped how the small things are what separates great players from great talent is disheartening (and I'm being kind).

I'm sure this will be pointed out to him in the film study and maybe he'll understand it for next time.
 
Hmmm. Earlier today Bryan Broaddus said on Talkin' Cowboys that it was Witten's fault for not running the correct route which led to the INT.
 
Oh look, another "that INT was Dez's not Romo's fault" thread. I remember the one from last year after the Jets game too.

Romo went to his right and threw across his body towards the other side of the field, on a drag route no less. That's a big no-no for QBs and will be picked off 9/10 times in this league.

Terrible decision, but it happened... hopefully Romo will learn from it.

FWIW I highly doubt that INT had much difference on the result of the game one way or another. We got smacked up, one play wouldn't change it.
 
If only Jimmy Johnson were here to yell at these guys, this would never have happened.
 
TheFinisher;4735534 said:
Oh look, another "that INT was Dez's not Romo's fault" thread. I remember the one from last year after the Jets game too.

Romo went to his right and threw across his body towards the other side of the field, on a drag route no less. That's a big no-no for QBs and will be picked off 9/10 times in this league.

Terrible decision, but it happened... hopefully Romo will learn from it.

FWIW I highly doubt that INT had much difference on the result of the game one way or another. We got smacked up, one play wouldn't change it.

LOLl...could you have missed it anymore. The thread is not about Dez, it's a breakdown of a play. Also nowhere does it mention the play cost us the game, it's a breakdown of a play.

You're the one inserting the interpretation. And it's not mine, it's from the article so feel free to read it, that's what the link is for. There's plenty of blame to go around but to excuse Dez from his part is just part of the enabling.
 
baj1dallas;4735536 said:
If only Jimmy Johnson were here to yell at these guys, this would never have happened.

Or Bill Cowher, Johm Gruden or Jeff Fischer......
 
TheFinisher;4735534 said:
Oh look, another "that INT was Dez's not Romo's fault" thread. I remember the one from last year after the Jets game too.

.
Agree.
Romo picks are more rare than most QBs', so I have no problem saying he scewed up when he did.
He usually (9 out 10 times maybe) more than offsets his picks in a game, but this time it was 1 pick, 1 TD...so not good enough.
I'm sure he would agree.
 
I have to watch it again but I looked to me like the pass was intended for Witten.
 
DandyDon1722;4735518 said:
I'm always fascinated by what happens during the course of a play that leads to it's success or failure and I thought I would pass this along for those who also like stuff like this.

It's a dissection (with pics) by Jonathan Bales of the DMN on Romo's INT.
This is right out of a CouchScout type of post which I love because what happened is not what you think happened.

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***...oys-how-the-seahawks-confused-tony-romo.html/

If you don't want to read the whole article here is the explanation on what led to the interception broken down into three parts.

1. The Seahawks ability to confuse Romo on disguised blitz packages when he rarely gets confused. When they looked like they were going to blitz they pulled out and when they did blitz they disguised it, unlike what the Giants did last week. Since 2009, Romo has a similar passer rating whether teams blitz him or not. When they show blitz and indeed come, however, his passer rating (120.9) is 41.5 points higher than when they blitz after not showing it. Similarly, his passer rating is 40.1 points higher when defenses line up conservatively and don’t blitz as compared to showing blitz and then backing out. On this play they faked the blitz, pulled out, then dropped a defensive end (Clemens) into coverage which caused Romo to hesitate.

2. When Romo recognized Clemens dropping in coverage he hesitated and immediately had pressure in his face. Since he had nowhere else to go he tried to throw the ball away to what he knew should have been an open space except for...

3. Dez gave up on the play. Once Dez saw Tony hesitate and get pressure he flat out quit on his route freeing his defender Brandon Browner to make a play on the ball.

So what appears to us as a bad throw/decision, we now see how the play actually broke down. I believe these elements, while small in the course of a play are a part of the big picture of the team.

Of the three, Romo's reads are the least of the concerns although according to these numbers I think other teams will continue to try to disguise blitz packages which could cause him trouble. I wish he would just throw the ball out of bounds sometimes but in this play he had very little options other than taking a sack but he tried to save the play.

The pressure can be attributed to simply not being good enough on the offensive line, those guys are going to get beat, we're just going to have to accept it.

The fact that Dez still has not grasped how the small things are what separates great players from great talent is disheartening (and I'm being kind).

I'm sure this will be pointed out to him in the film study and maybe he'll understand it for next time.

On that one play, three bad things happened to the Cowboys. Witten’s wrong route, Murray on the cut block and Romo trying to force the pass all result in a turnover.

^^Per Broadus. This is why I can't stand some of you Witten fanboys. You guys act like the guy is perfect and is immune to bonehead plays when the reality is,he makes A LOT of bonehead plays (dropped passes, penalties, etc). I swear I wish they would stop making gameplans revolve around him. But yeah, nice try on the Dez Bryant finger pointing.

Now let's see if you apologize to Dez. I won't hold my breath.
 
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Well from this clip it did look like Dez did stop and his man was able to pull away from him to go for the INT.
 
I don't think Dez ran the wrong route. Witten did although it could be Dez was supposed to be deeper. If so then he caused it. If Witten ran the wrong route then he did. Whichever those two receivers were too close. Romo still shouldn't have thrown the ball there. At Witten's feet maybe.
 
Romo just threw a bad pass, it happens

When the play breaks down it looks like Dez breaks off his route to go down field Ogletree did exactly the same on his first TD last week.


Phillips is wide open behind everyone
 
hairic;4736366 said:
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Gosh-just throw that one at his feet.....why force it like that?

It was obviously not Dez's fault--not really sure what the author of this thread was looking at.
 
Romo threw off of his back foot into tight coverage. I kind of get what the author is saying. If Dez ran his route at full speed, Browner wouldn't be in position to make the pick since he'd be following Dez. But this is stretching it and playing the "what if" game. They all reacted to Romo and I can't really blame them. How many times have you seen the QB being under pressure, only to throw it to a receiver who isn't even looking back?
 
ConstantReboot;4736372 said:
Well from this clip it did look like Dez did stop and his man was able to pull away from him to go for the INT.

I agree with other posters -- the interception had little to do with Dez.

The real question, as you state, is why did Dez give up on the route. He essentially stops running 2/3s of the way through the play.

You have to play full speed all the time -- especially with Romo.
 
Romo threw across his body, falling back to a area where there was 2 receivers and 3 defenders = OhNo.
 
skicat1898;4736474 said:
Romo threw across his body, falling back to a area where there was 2 receivers and 3 defenders = OhNo.

Dez did give up, but that was a classically stupid late + over the middle nono.
 
Yeah, that's on Romo. Was a stupid pass under pressure. Just like the one he threw vs. the Giants.
 
TheFinisher;4735534 said:
Oh look, another "that INT was Dez's not Romo's fault" thread. I remember the one from last year after the Jets game too.

Romo went to his right and threw across his body towards the other side of the field, on a drag route no less. That's a big no-no for QBs and will be picked off 9/10 times in this league.

Terrible decision, but it happened... hopefully Romo will learn from it.

FWIW I highly doubt that INT had much difference on the result of the game one way or another. We got smacked up, one play wouldn't change it.

Funny how that works
 

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