Contenders or Pretenders? Check out this guy's reasoning.

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Taken from another forum posted by Dwarewolf94: Buzzkill: Neither Saints, ’Boys true contenders

Teams have compiled impressive records, but against weak opponents


By Kerry Byrne
Coldhardfootballfacts.com
Updated: 2:13 p.m. CT Dec 7, 2006


Dashing hopes and dreams is something of a Cold, Hard Football Facts specialty.
In fact, it’s kinda the way we celebrate the holidays.
Take, for example, the hopes and dreams of fans in New Orleans and Dallas, who will watch their teams battle Sunday night in the marquee matchup of Week 14.

The Saints’ season so far has been a giddy gridiron Mardi Gras parade passing down booze-soaked Bourbon Street, with the “pundits” on the catwalks, tossing beads of praise at New Orleans newcomers Drew Brees, Reggie Bush and Sean Payton.
Dallas, meanwhile, has fallen in love with the NFL’s newest “It Boy,” quarterback Tony Romo. He has the athleticism, the dimples and the 5-1 record as a starter that make fans and “pundits” swoon.
Both teams are 8-4 and boast two-game leads in their respective divisions. Barring a major collapse, both teams will cruise into the playoffs. The winner of Sunday night’s game will also have a very good shot at a first-round bye. It’s easy to get caught up in the excitement in both cities.
But the sad, spirit-crushing Cold, Hard Football Fact is that neither team will win the Super Bowl.

In fact, the Saints and Cowboys are so fraudulent that the IRS should come in and do an audit. Both teams stand as textbook examples of decent clubs who have fattened themselves on cupcake schedules. Both teams have failed to show any sign that they have what it takes to win three or four straight games against solid competition in the playoffs.
The Cold, Hard Football Facts put a lot of stock in what we call the “Quality Wins Quotient.” We don’t just look at a team’s record. We look at who they played and track their record against “Quality Opponents” (which we define as any team with a winning record).
The theory is quite simple, and has a lot of historical merit: Some teams have great records thanks, in large part, to an easy schedule. These teams are pretenders. Other teams have great records despite playing a difficult schedule. These teams are contenders.
This year, Dallas and New Orleans are the NFL’s biggest pretenders:

Each team has played just two games against Quality Opponents.
Every other team in football has played three or more games against Quality Opponents.
Twenty-eight NFL teams have faced four or more Quality Opponents.
Nine NFL teams have played at least six games against Quality Opponents.
Here’s how New Orleans and Dallas stack up when we look at them through the pigskin prism of the Cold, Hard Football Facts Quality Wins Quotient:

The Saints are 0-2 against Quality Teams. They got smoked in both games, losing 35-22 to Baltimore and 31-16 to Cincinnati.
The Cowboys are 1-1 against Quality Teams. They lost Jacksonville, 24-17, back in the first week of the season. They pulled off one of the biggest wins of the season, with a 21-14 victory over the Colts three weeks ago.
The Saints have gone 8-2 in their other 10 games, beating up opponents with a combined record of 48-72 (.400).
The Cowboys have gone 7-3 in their other 10 games, beating up opponents with a combined record of 47-73 (.392).
The Saints are one of just five teams in the NFL this season without a single victory against a Quality Team. The others are Oakland, Detroit, Green Bay and Arizona. That’s not the company kept by Super Bowl contenders.

The Cowboys can claim one victory over a Quality Team, but so can almost every team over in the AFC (every team but the inept Raiders). AFC also-rans like Cleveland and Houston can each claim two victories over Quality Teams. Again, that’s not the company kept by Super bowl contenders.
At its core, the Quality Wins Quotient tells us that it’s easy to look good when you don’t play anybody. And, this season, no teams have played more nobodies than Dallas and New Orleans.

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I'd have to say that the AFC is more talented than the NFC in terms of the top 5-6 teams.

But hey, all you can do is go out and play the games on your schedule.

Plus, it would have been interesting what our record would have been had Romo been starting all season.

Frankly said, let's first make the playoffs and then worry about the Super Bowl! One step at a time.
 

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Complete garbage. We've switched the most important position in football and we're a fluke play away from being a perfect 6-0 since then. NY isn't a "quality opponent." Why? Because we just beat them on the road! The season is far from over.
 

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The Giants were a "Quality" team before we beat them.

Carolina was a "Quality" team before we beat them.

Someone needs to tell this guy to stop worrying about all the stats, and to start watching the games. There are some things that are qualitative, and for that, he has to actually see the games.
 

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Woods;1218311 said:
It better be us then! :)

Any coincidence that we have faired pretty well against the AFC this year? Even though it is one of the weaker divisions in the AFC.

Beating the Colts is not easy.

We actually suck worse against the rest of the NFC. Though things are picking up.;)
 

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Why didn't he list all these so called quality wins by other teams? I wonder how many Chicago has? This guy probably has such a sour attitude that he is probably sentenced to writing his column alone in a sealed off cubicle.
 

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In the beginning of the season the "experts" said the Saint might squeak out 2 or 3 wins this year. Their reasoning was that the Saints schedule was too tough for them to overcome. It so funny how things change.
 

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Tuna Helper;1218322 said:
Any coincidence that we have faired pretty well against the AFC this year? Even though it is one of the weaker divisions in the AFC.

Beating the Colts is not easy.

We actually suck worse against the rest of the NFC. Though things are picking up.;)
The AFC South is far from the worst division in the AFC. As a whole, the division is a combined 26-22 and has played the toughest division in the NFC (NFC East 24-24) and has played one of the divisons tied with them for best record (AFC East 26-22). The division contains urguably the best team in the NFL in Indianapolis.
 

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This guy is probably some bitter Panther or Eagle fan who's team fell into the latrine long ago.
 

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Tuna Helper;1218302 said:
My belief is that the NFC will win the SB this year. Book it.

It would be the trifecta. In baseball, the American League was far better than the National League, but the Cardinals won the World Series. In the NBA, the West was way better than the East but the Heat won.
 

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how is our schedule a cupcake? We can't help it that teams have fallen apart.

8 games against playoff teams from last year. {2-Wash, 2-NY, 1-Indy, 1-Jax, 1- Carolina, 1- Tampa} Plus we played these teams in stretchs (first 2 games, then a pair of 3 game stretchs)

1- game against a team that SI picked to go to the super bowl {carolina}
and was in the NFC championship game.

4- games against teams that won their division the pervious year

Arizona was a lot of "experts" trendy pick to be a dangerous team and we played them.

We played Tennessee who has had some good upsets this year against good teams.

We play Atlanta, who can either be incredably dangerous or a push over depends on which team decides to show up.

Now we play "america's team":rolleyes: the New Orleans Saints who have been really good this year.

When I look at our schedule I see two big cupcake games, Houston and Detroit. Do we have the toughest schedule? Heck no. Do we have the weakest schedule, F No! You wanna see a weak schedule look at the Bears or Jets schedules, now those are kinda cupcakey.
 
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