Cooks Signs With Saints

I think that signing Turpin to the 3 year deal was much better than signing Cooks.
I can agree with that. Could have signed both, but I think Cooks is much more suited to being a No. 3 receiver now and I'm hoping that this staff gives Turpin a legitimate shot at that role.
 
I can agree with that. Could have signed both, but I think Cooks is much more suited to being a No. 3 receiver now and I'm hoping that this staff gives Turpin a legitimate shot at that role.
The thing is Turpin is well under 160 pounds so the coaches really do have to be selective about how much they use him on offense. Over the middle he'll be taking hits from linebackers that outweigh him by a hundred pounds on occasion.
 
Cooks was gone the moment he called out the Cowboys- specifically the Jones Boys- for not doing enough to help Dak like other teams help their QBs.

And Cooks has been to Super Bowls for two different teams (Patriots and Rams) so he knows of what he speaks.
 

well the guy hasn't been signed by now it's apparent they're going in a different direction they've allowed several players that probably are not the new staff great fit so they're gonna go and get who they think will fit the new system... You really haven't done much the last two years I mean I like the guy but there's plenty of free agents that could do what he does and I think they're thinking that that guy they just picked up from the eagles is very similar to him for less money so there's that...
 
I like the receiver. That ends that potential for Dallas as to leaning to the draft.
I like him too but he really hasn't done much the last two seasons I think they picked up that other guy from Philadelphia to do very similar things for less money and you're right they're going to the draft but that's not going to end there there's so many decent or good free agent veteran receiver still out there I believe this staff both sides of the ball are purging some of the guys that don't think is a good fit here and they're going to bring their own guys in it's natural you're not going to have the same players especially the role players are the depth guys they're going to want some that are familiar with what they're going to be running...
 
Cooks was gone the moment he called out the Cowboys- specifically the Jones Boys- for not doing enough to help Dak like other teams help their QBs.

And Cooks has been to Super Bowls for two different teams (Patriots and Rams) so he knows of what he speaks.
Do we really gotta point that out all the time it's not true even if there is some truth to it he's gone because he hasn't done much the last two seasons and the new coaching staff and their scheme they're picking some of the players they want here literally scheme changes typically you get player changes and he wasn't a very big impact player that you're gonna be sorry lost I like him but he's not gone because of what he said...

These narratives just to take shots at the ownership while some of the criticism is earned from that they're in this is not that moment that's not why he's leaving he said he doesn't mind coming back as long as they can use him to his strengths better that's what he said recently and apparently if he was gonna be resigned he would already be back they're looking elsewhere for a different veteran he's not leaving here because he didn't wanna be here that's a bunch of nonsense that's what they said about tank and Lewis and neither one of them got an offer they would have offered them something lowball whatever but you guys using that as some reason they don't wanna be here is nonsense...

If Jerry and this new staff wanted these players here they would have made offers and I guarantee they would have stayed this whole nonsense of the ones that left are wanting to win and that's why they left no they left because they were offered deals elsewhere and not here pretty simple
 
lol are you serious? He’s much better that’s why.
Look I like him as well but you can't keep everyone and he was not an impact player here he hasn't done much in the last two seasons at all he's not a big loss the new coaching staff running new schemes want him here and the Saints are probably gonna run something like our old scheme and he's a better fit there it's as simple as that they didn't offer him a contract just like Lewis and tank didn't get offers if Jerry wanted them here he would have made them some kind of offer and he did not...

So I'm sorry he's not a big loss he's easily replaced go look at the free agents that are out there right now the veterans one of them will be here before the season starts usually post draft is when things pick back up in the free agent and the trade market and then you have cut downs right before the season there's gonna be plenty of veterans that this coaching staff will choose one of them that fits what they're looking for....
 
They are going to add a number 2 receiver and Cooks doesn't fit and they will get a comp pick for him. The other guys are under contract.

I think that signing Turpin to the 3 year deal was much better than signing Cooks.
Don't argue with a person who used a handle calling himself a pessimist you'll never win it's their way or no way he doesn't see the big picture people are shocked that some of our better players in tank and Lewis and now cooks are not even being offered contracts but they don't get why they don't get that a new scheme and a new coaching staff have different tastes and different players and they're gonna bring somebody else in here...

Act like these are big losses like I saw Washington bragging about getting Gallup hell they're bragging about getting Samuels and if you really look at what they've done lately it isn't much they're counting on players being their old selves and that's not always the case sometimes it's time to move on..
 
The thing is Turpin is well under 160 pounds so the coaches really do have to be selective about how much they use him on offense. Over the middle he'll be taking hits from linebackers that outweigh him by a hundred pounds on occasion.
I don't disagree, but I think he needs to be used much more than he has been. He has shown the ability to be dynamic, and we don't have many players who can.

Last year, Jalen Tolbert played 892 snaps on offense while Turpin played 315. That's a travesty. Does Turpin need 892 snaps? I don't think so, but he needs to regularly be part of the offense. Lamb as a starter played 826 snaps, if Turpin got all the third receiver snaps, it probably would not be more than 500. I don't think three receivers will be our base set since we want to be a running team.
 
I don't disagree, but I think he needs to be used much more than he has been. He has shown the ability to be dynamic, and we don't have many players who can.

Last year, Jalen Tolbert played 892 snaps on offense while Turpin played 315. That's a travesty. Does Turpin need 892 snaps? I don't think so, but he needs to regularly be part of the offense. Lamb as a starter played 826 snaps, if Turpin got all the third receiver snaps, it probably would not be more than 500. I don't think three receivers will be our best since we want to be a running team.
Completely agree. :hammer:
 
Look I like him as well but you can't keep everyone and he was not an impact player here he hasn't done much in the last two seasons at all he's not a big loss the new coaching staff running new schemes want him here and the Saints are probably gonna run something like our old scheme and he's a better fit there it's as simple as that they didn't offer him a contract just like Lewis and tank didn't get offers if Jerry wanted them here he would have made them some kind of offer and he did not...

So I'm sorry he's not a big loss he's easily replaced go look at the free agents that are out there right now the veterans one of them will be here before the season starts usually post draft is when things pick back up in the free agent and the trade market and then you have cut downs right before the season there's gonna be plenty of veterans that this coaching staff will choose one of them that fits what they're looking for....
You’re comfortable signing guys cut by other teams during training camps? That’s how you suggest the Cowboys get competitive? If a very good team that know’s it’s competitive now is considering comp picks in the 2026 draft, that is strategic. If a bad team, like the Cowboys is considering comp pick in the 2026 draft that is giving up on the upcoming season.

Look at the Cowboys’s schedule. Home and away games. They’re not going to win more than six games. Probably fewer than that. All of your tap dancing posts do not change reality. The Dallas Cowboys are one of the worst teams in the NFC.
 
According to the formulas I have seen, the Cowboys are getting comp picks for Chauncey Golston and Jourdan Lewis. They aren't getting a comp pick for DeMarcus Lawrence due to the value of the Dante Fowler signing.

So it all depends on what Cooks' deal is for compared to what Dallas gave guys like Parris Campbell, Miles Sanders, etc.. Right now the Cowboys lose a comp pick for any player they sign for over $3.5 million per season. If Cooks is getting more from the Saints than Dallas gave Campbell, for instance, it could lead to a 6th or 7th round comp pick.

That all ends after the draft, when teams can sign anybody and the comp pick formula goes out the window. That's probably why we won't see Dallas sign anyone else until then.
He’s getting 13m for 2 years
 
Cooks was gone the moment he called out the Cowboys- specifically the Jones Boys- for not doing enough to help Dak like other teams help their QBs.

And Cooks has been to Super Bowls for two different teams (Patriots and Rams) so he knows of what he speaks.
He was gone long before that. There’s a reason it took him this long to find a team.
 
I don't disagree, but I think he needs to be used much more than he has been. He has shown the ability to be dynamic, and we don't have many players who can.

Last year, Jalen Tolbert played 892 snaps on offense while Turpin played 315. That's a travesty. Does Turpin need 892 snaps? I don't think so, but he needs to regularly be part of the offense. Lamb as a starter played 826 snaps, if Turpin got all the third receiver snaps, it probably would not be more than 500. I don't think three receivers will be our base set since we want to be a running team.
I don't know how accurate that is but he would have been on the field for 50 snaps which is almost the entire game for 17 games to have those kind of targets or snaps I should say that doesn't seem right to me I mean when the whole entire offense maybe on a good day where they're just having really long drives might have a 60 snap game here and there but for the most part he'd have been on the field the whole entire year almost every snap of every game... I'm not saying you're wrong but that just doesn't seem right but yes I would like to see Turpin get more snaps but tolbert had 7 touchdowns and almost as many yards in his yards per catch were very similar to Samuels and cup last year so let's calm down obviously better than Gallup

Cooks 2 years 80 catches =916 yards = 11 YPC 11 tds but last year 259 yards 10 YPC and 2 tds ...

Tolbert- 2 years 70-878 yards 9tds=12.2 YPC ;2023- 22 268 12.2 YPC 2 tds 2024 49-610 12.4 YPC 7 TDS

so, everyone can be down on Tolbert, you realize recently like last year he had a better season than most any of the receivers we've been talking about here, if we're talking about recent history but over two years who would you rather have, an aging receiver making $6 million a year or more or a guy on his rookie contract putting up the same numbers?

That's a pretty easy decision for the coaching staff and the front office....
 
He was gone long before that. There’s a reason it took him this long to find a team.
YUP easy to see why?

Cooks 2 years 80 catches =916 yards = 11 YPC 11 tds but last year 259 yards 10 YPC and 2 tds ...

Tolbert- 2 years 70-878 yards 9tds=12.2 YPC ;2023- 22 268 12.2 YPC 2 tds 2024 49-610 12.4 YPC 7 TDS

so, everyone can be down on Tolbert, you realize recently like last year he had a better season than most any of the receivers we've been talking about here, if we're talking about recent history but over two years who would you rather have, an aging receiver making $6 million a year or more or a guy on his rookie contract putting up the same numbers?

That's a pretty easy decision for the coaching staff and the front office....
 
So, he is worth a 6th round comp pick to the Cowboys as of today.
He will cancel out Fowler and Gholston will be a loss we get a late in order 6th round comp pick for.
 
lol are you serious? He’s much better that’s why.
but at this stage of his career he's not better. TUrpin with more targets and used properly is better IMHO..

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Cooks 2 years 80 catches =916 yards = 11 YPC 11 tds but last year 259 yards 10 YPC and 2 tds ...​

Tolbert- 2 years 70-878 yards 9tds=12.2 YPC ;2023- 22 268 12.2 YPC 2 tds 2024 49-610 12.4 YPC 7 TDS

so, everyone can be down on Tolbert, you realize recently like last year he had a better season than most any of the receivers we've been talking about here, if we're talking about recent history but over two years who would you rather have, an aging receiver making $6-8M million a year or more or a guy on his rookie contract putting up the same numbers?

That's a pretty easy decision for the coaching staff and the front office....
 
I don't disagree, but I think he needs to be used much more than he has been. He has shown the ability to be dynamic, and we don't have many players who can.

Last year, Jalen Tolbert played 892 snaps on offense while Turpin played 315. That's a travesty. Does Turpin need 892 snaps? I don't think so, but he needs to regularly be part of the offense. Lamb as a starter played 826 snaps, if Turpin got all the third receiver snaps, it probably would not be more than 500. I don't think three receivers will be our base set since we want to be a running team.
Turpin is a plus return guy so as long as he gets at least the 300 WR snaps he adds real value without too much risk.
A good coach would move him around and get him matched up on speed deprived guys and let him eat.
 

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