Cotto vs Margarito

[gazmc_06]

Anybody watch the big fight tonight? that was a battle for the ages. I was one of the very few that picked Margarito and it payed off (literally, $2,000 win ).

That is by far the fight of the year so far and it really was worth the money. I thought Cotto would wear out after a while of Margarito's constant pressure and it happened.

I guess we can add Cotto's name to that garbage list of people "Floyd would lose to". First it was De La Hoya, then Hatton, then Williams, then Cotto...probably Margarito next

 

[The Panch]

Floyd already added him to that list by dodging Margarito despite an 8 mil guarantee in '06. Dont get me wrong, I think Mayweather would edge Marg out cause of his footwork and D, but he'd get the beating of his life and he seems to realize that. Margarito proved last night why he's such a mismatch for these modern day welterweights. He's too big and strong and has a chin that would make The Terminator jealous. Cotto was outboxing him early on, but it had no impact on AM. He's just too hard to hurt and is willing to make it a brawler's blood fest every fight. DLH's shook of him too cause he's too big for DLH to over power him like he does his other opponents. Im just glad to see Margarito get some big time shine cause I've been getting tired of him being the scary fighter than no one wants to face.

 

[gazmc_06]

^Hitting Floyd isn't as easy as hitting Cotto, Cotto simply ducks to avoid punches and has poor head movement. Mayweather would avoid him better, roll from punches, counter and outbox him even more than Williams did, but most importantly he wouldn't run out of steam. I think Floyd's movement, defense and counter punching is the worst possible match up for Margarito. Floyd didn't duck Margarito, he chose to fight Hatton who so many people were saying would beat him. If Margarito wouldn't have lost to Williams I believe we would have seen him and Floyd in the ring just like I think we would have seen Floyd and Cotto in the ring next year if he would have won last night.

I am very glad to see Margarito getting his time at the top, it has been a long time coming. For years he has just been that guy on the edge and so many people dont even know who he is, they will take notice now. Cotto has been rocked several times in his career but nobody has been relentless enough to finish him off, Margarito damn sure was.

 

[The Panch]

What you said in the first paragraph is what I said in my post. Floyd's D, foot work and backtrack boxing skills is better than that of Cotto's. But you also have to acknowledge Cotto was fighting that style of fight for 6 rounds and was forced into Margo's style in the 7 and on forward. And he didnt lose his steam, Margo took it from him. Also, Floyd's hands have become an issue lately and he's not as strong a puncher as Cotto, who despite landing clean blow after clean blow on Margo's face, did absolutely nothing to it.



And that Williams fight was a fluke. Margo lost that fight cause he came out weak and dug himself in a hole he didnt have enough rounds to dig himself out of. He beat himself more than Williams beat him and Margo in '08 is something Williams wants no part of.

 

[gazmc_06]

Cotto has been dragged into other people's fights before, it's one of his tendencies. Floyd will never get dragged into a fight he isn't comfortable with, Hatton used the brawl tactics and got nowhere. Floyd wouldn't need to knock him out anyway, he would just outbox him for 12 rounds and not make any stupid mistakes. Margarito forced himself on Cotto and in the end Cotto began to fight Margarito's fight....Floyd would not.

 

[The Panch]

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That's not the face of someone who was dragged into his opponent's fight. That's the face of someone who was forced into it. Cotto was still back pedaling most of the way, he just couldnt get away from Margo for good. The only argument you can back was he didnt hold enough.

I respect everything else you said except for bringing up Hatton. He was an overhyped regular who wasnt on the level people wanted him to be at cause they were desperate to see a Floyd challenger. He's not on Margo's level and to assume Mayweather will do half the damage to Margo he did to Hatton is crazy.

 

[gazmc_06]

Hatton is under-rated by a lot of people, Floyd was the worst possible match-up for him and made him look average. Hatton can do some very good things in the ring, but his come forward style played right into the hands of Floyd and he made him look like an amateur at times. Floyd wouldn't KO Margarito, but he would outbox him in a very similar way IMO.

Cotto has been dragged into other people's type of fight plenty of times, Torres got him into a slug fest and knocked him on his ***, Malignaggi got him into a boxing match and controlled him for long parts of the fight and it happened agin last night....Cotto started the fight doing what he wanted but as he does so often he allowed himself to get caught in the ropes and in turn fought Margarito's fight.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Cotto has been dragged into other people's fights before, it's one of his tendencies. Margarito forced himself on Cotto and in the end Cotto began to fight Margarito's fight....Floyd would not.

I too called this fight for Margarito.

It was classic mexican Julio Cesar Chaves pressure. Pressure, to the body and knock them down and out.

Cotto was not dragged into Margarito's fight. Cotto just couldnt hit and run for a full 12 rounds. Cotto also realized that he couldnt hurt Marg... he should have ran for the last 2 rounds prob wins decision.


Cotto has nothing to be ashamed of... he just fought a guy that he couldnt hurt.

One thing that I didnt like about Cotto.. he came out too cocky and was playing too much.

 

[gazmc_06]

Cotto looked to be a little too arrogant in the middle rounds, as if he was trying to show Margarito up. That's fine if you have the stamina to do it for a full fight, but if you come in against Margarito you should know it's going 12 if you want to win and Cotto couldn't go 12.

I'm interested to see who wants some of Marg now, I wouldn't be suprised to see a Floyd return next year for one last fight.