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What's going on guys? Hope everyone is having an awesome day. I was planning on doing a free agency recap sometime about now, but The Emperor approached me about doing a radio show on that subject, so I'm gonna save talk about specific players we've recently signed for that. I'm sure he'll be properly advertising the show as he gets closer to being ready to host it. However, I still have a few things I'd like to talk about. Probably won't be a long post today, but should give you guys some things to think about.


Money Money Money

I heard several people gnashing their teeth over the 10 mil per season number we're gonna be paying Carr, and I just wanna take the time to remind those people that the numbers as we knew them, are gone. 10 mil used to be reserved for top flight corners, now pretty good corners are gonna be getting that, and top flight corners are gonna get 15 mil. With the new CBA, teams have to spend more, and lots of teams had/have lots of cap space, they have to spend it somehow. It will probably take 3-4 seasons for salaries to normalize where we'll be able to reliably predict what a free agent should and will get. Just keep that in mind when you see that 10 mil per season and start freaking out.

Anthony Spencer

My employer asked me for an eval on Spencer a couple weeks back, and I told them the same thing I've told ya'll, that Spencer is an enigma to me, he's the hardest player on the team to evaluate...and it's not close. He wrote me back a few days after that explaining that when you break it down to it's simplest form, there are 3 types of players in the league. Guys who can't do it, guys who can do it but need help around them, and guys who can do it all by themselves. Spencer fits squarely in the can do it but needs help category. The majority of the players in the league are in the same category. At first I was steadfastly against franchising him, but then I started watching his tape some more, and I found some interesting things. He's not a bad player, by any stretch of the imagination. The nickname "Almost Anthony" is very apt. As a pass rusher, he is consistently almost there. When Spears/Lissemore would get a really good push, Spencer put a lot of heat on QBs. When those guys got stonewalled, Spencer's effectiveness dropped about 50%. Also, when the coverage was very good (happened way way too rarely this season), Spencer usually beat Ware to the QB (probably due to Ware getting extra attention, but still). Assuming the acquisitions we've made so far and will make in the draft turn out to be upgrades, I see no reason Spencer couldn't have a true breakout season. The Cowboys thinking could be along the lines of "let's give him one season in which we actually have a secondary, and then make a decision." Not a bad plan, I know this, Spencer wasn't the problem with the defense last year, and most likely won't be next season either.


The case for Decastro

Guard just isn't that important of a position to have an elite player. Yeah, you want guys in there who can do the job, but the benefits from having an elite guard are far outweighed by having an elite player at almost any other position. Thats just football fact. However, Decastro has something going for him as far as being a draft prospect that not a single other draftee this season has. He's already better than 80% of the starting guards in the NFL. Most of the time, your drafting on potential, even when a guy is already good, you don't know how that is gonna translate to the next level. With Decastro, thats not a worry, there isn't a team in the league (except probably Tampa Bay) that has 2 guards better than him. He would start at one spot or the other for 31 teams, day one. No one else can say that.


The case for a pass rusher

The Giants proved once again this season that impact an elite pass rusher can have. Having 2 or 3 of them is like having a huge bottle of wart-be-gone. It doesn't hardly matter what the rest of the defense is doing when the opposing QB is eating dirt every other play. The big problem with drafting these guys, is they seem to have the same boost or bust factor that QBs have. And teams around the NFL seem to have the same trouble figuring out which guy will translate to the next level, and which one won't. However, I think the Giants have laid out a very simple blueprint, you just keep drafting pass rushers, every draft. It doesn't matter if you already have Tuck, Kiwanuka, and Umenyoira, you take JPP anyway. This is why I think you'll see the Cowboys select someone they think can translate to the next level as a pass rusher. If none of those guys are there when they pick, then they take Decastro. Just my gut feeling.


Adjusting an old football adage

"You have to run the ball to win", people have been saying that for a long time now. And I suppose there was a time when it was true, but it's never really been a completely accurate statement. The truth is "you have to BE ABLE to run the ball to win". Just running doesn't equate to success, otherwise thats what everyone would do. Think about the past 5-6 Super Bowl winners, they all had excellent passing attacks they relied heavily on, but could also run when it was needed. Sometimes those teams were able to run because they were built as a running team but struck gold at WR/QB (Giants, Steelers), sometimes they could run because their passing attack was so dominant that they constantly faced 6 man boxes (Saints, Packers) and sometimes they were built for balance (Colts), but in all cases, they could run when needed, and to throw the opponent off balance.

I bring this up to talk about Garrett and his playcalling a little bit. In a report I sent to my employer I mentioned that he doesn't like to run very much and it seems he will give up on it when it's not working. My boss wrote me back explaining that more and more of the OCs in the league are starting to learn that running just to stay balanced gets you nowhere. He mentioned that I should pay closer attention to play calls when watching other teams, and note how many of them give up on the run if it's clearly not working.

I brought all that up to get to my final point. We've got to BE ABLE to run the ball next season. That is how this offense takes the next step. We need both more push up front at the snap, and a much higher success rate of hitting targets on the second level. Replacing Kosier and Nagy/Holland/Dockery will go a long way towards that goal. It'll be very interesting to see what this offensive line looks like the first day of training camp, and how it evolves from there. But at all costs, we have be able to consistently get chunk yardage out of the running game next season.


The best place on Earth.

I told Reality this back during the season, and I've heard it mentioned again recently, so I thought I'd share. Apparently, in the scouting/front office communities, Cowboyszone is considered to be the best fan site in the NFL by a pretty wide margin, and is considered to be right up there with the best fan sites in all of sports. You'd be floored by some of the people who have accounts here, and regularly check this site. You might be careful spouting off too many crazy opinions, you could have real NFL GMs with multiple Super Bowl rings laughing at you. But definitely big props to Reality, the mod staff, and everyone else who contributes to this board, pretty cool thing being singled out as the best.


As usual, I'll try to answer as many questions as I can for the next 24 hours or so. No questions about recent signings though, you can get those answers by listening to the upcoming radio show.
 
couchscout;4465129 said:
We have be able to consistently get chunk yardage out of the running game next season.
We have to be able to get positive yardage in the red zone. We couldn't last year, and it killed us.
 
couchscout;4465129 said:
The best place on Earth.

I told Reality this back during the season, and I've heard it mentioned again recently, so I thought I'd share. Apparently, in the scouting/front office communities, Cowboyszone is considered to be the best fan site in the NFL by a pretty wide margin, and is considered to be right up there with the best fan sites in all of sports. You'd be floored by some of the people who have accounts here, and regularly check this site. You might be careful spouting off too many crazy opinions, you could have real NFL GMs with multiple Super Bowl rings laughing at you. But definitely big props to Reality, the mod staff, and everyone else who contributes to this board, pretty cool thing being singled out as the best.

.

Yessir. And contributions like yours are what help make that so. Thanks once again for the great post.
 
Excellent write up CS, as usual. I look forward to the radio show. I know I am not supposed to ask you but just give us one word.

How do you feel about the Vickers signing? :)

I am with you on DeCastro, even though I wouldn't mind them drafting him, I would prefer a rusher.
 
Thanks Couchscout. I usually refrain from the "thanks" reply, but in this instance, I will break my rule.
 
Great post as usual. What you're saying about Spencer needing help would seem to point to drafting a DE high. Getting a DE that could more consistency rush the passer would not only upgrade that position but could make Spenser more effective as well.
 
What are your thoughts on Callahan and the blocking scheme he will utilize?

What is the difference in type of athletes does a zone Vs man power scheme require?
 
I told Reality this back during the season, and I've heard it mentioned again recently, so I thought I'd share. Apparently, in the scouting/front office communities, Cowboyszone is considered to be the best fan site in the NFL by a pretty wide margin, and is considered to be right up there with the best fan sites in all of sports. You'd be floored by some of the people who have accounts here, and regularly check this site. You might be careful spouting off too many crazy opinions, you could have real NFL GMs with multiple Super Bowl rings laughing at you. But definitely big props to Reality, the mod staff, and everyone else who contributes to this board, pretty cool thing being singled out as the best.

Hey CS not asking for names but do you know if anybody in Cowboys FO has an account here? I know Broaddus does (no longer affiliated with them).
 
Thanks for the info finally a post that isnt a news snippet worth reading everything else is the usual JJ screwed this or that or we got the wrong player bla bla bla crap.

Please post more spam the dimwits right off the board.
 
couchscout;4465129 said:
What's going on guys? Hope everyone is having an awesome day. I was planning on doing a free agency recap sometime about now, but The Emperor approached me about doing a radio show on that subject, so I'm gonna save talk about specific players we've recently signed for that. I'm sure he'll be properly advertising the show as he gets closer to being ready to host it. However, I still have a few things I'd like to talk about. Probably won't be a long post today, but should give you guys some things to think about.


Money Money Money

I heard several people gnashing their teeth over the 10 mil per season number we're gonna be paying Carr, and I just wanna take the time to remind those people that the numbers as we knew them, are gone. 10 mil used to be reserved for top flight corners, now pretty good corners are gonna be getting that, and top flight corners are gonna get 15 mil. With the new CBA, teams have to spend more, and lots of teams had/have lots of cap space, they have to spend it somehow. It will probably take 3-4 seasons for salaries to normalize where we'll be able to reliably predict what a free agent should and will get. Just keep that in mind when you see that 10 mil per season and start freaking out.

Anthony Spencer

My employer asked me for an eval on Spencer a couple weeks back, and I told them the same thing I've told ya'll, that Spencer is an enigma to me, he's the hardest player on the team to evaluate...and it's not close. He wrote me back a few days after that explaining that when you break it down to it's simplest form, there are 3 types of players in the league. Guys who can't do it, guys who can do it but need help around them, and guys who can do it all by themselves. Spencer fits squarely in the can do it but needs help category. The majority of the players in the league are in the same category. At first I was steadfastly against franchising him, but then I started watching his tape some more, and I found some interesting things. He's not a bad player, by any stretch of the imagination. The nickname "Almost Anthony" is very apt. As a pass rusher, he is consistently almost there. When Spears/Lissemore would get a really good push, Spencer put a lot of heat on QBs. When those guys got stonewalled, Spencer's effectiveness dropped about 50%. Also, when the coverage was very good (happened way way too rarely this season), Spencer usually beat Ware to the QB (probably due to Ware getting extra attention, but still). Assuming the acquisitions we've made so far and will make in the draft turn out to be upgrades, I see no reason Spencer couldn't have a true breakout season. The Cowboys thinking could be along the lines of "let's give him one season in which we actually have a secondary, and then make a decision." Not a bad plan, I know this, Spencer wasn't the problem with the defense last year, and most likely won't be next season either.


The case for Decastro

Guard just isn't that important of a position to have an elite player. Yeah, you want guys in there who can do the job, but the benefits from having an elite guard are far outweighed by having an elite player at almost any other position. Thats just football fact. However, Decastro has something going for him as far as being a draft prospect that not a single other draftee this season has. He's already better than 80% of the starting guards in the NFL. Most of the time, your drafting on potential, even when a guy is already good, you don't know how that is gonna translate to the next level. With Decastro, thats not a worry, there isn't a team in the league (except probably Tampa Bay) that has 2 guards better than him. He would start at one spot or the other for 31 teams, day one. No one else can say that.


The case for a pass rusher

The Giants proved once again this season that impact an elite pass rusher can have. Having 2 or 3 of them is like having a huge bottle of wart-be-gone. It doesn't hardly matter what the rest of the defense is doing when the opposing QB is eating dirt every other play. The big problem with drafting these guys, is they seem to have the same boost or bust factor that QBs have. And teams around the NFL seem to have the same trouble figuring out which guy will translate to the next level, and which one won't. However, I think the Giants have laid out a very simple blueprint, you just keep drafting pass rushers, every draft. It doesn't matter if you already have Tuck, Kiwanuka, and Umenyoira, you take JPP anyway. This is why I think you'll see the Cowboys select someone they think can translate to the next level as a pass rusher. If none of those guys are there when they pick, then they take Decastro. Just my gut feeling.


Adjusting an old football adage

"You have to run the ball to win", people have been saying that for a long time now. And I suppose there was a time when it was true, but it's never really been a completely accurate statement. The truth is "you have to BE ABLE to run the ball to win". Just running doesn't equate to success, otherwise thats what everyone would do. Think about the past 5-6 Super Bowl winners, they all had excellent passing attacks they relied heavily on, but could also run when it was needed. Sometimes those teams were able to run because they were built as a running team but struck gold at WR/QB (Giants, Steelers), sometimes they could run because their passing attack was so dominant that they constantly faced 6 man boxes (Saints, Packers) and sometimes they were built for balance (Colts), but in all cases, they could run when needed, and to throw the opponent off balance.

I bring this up to talk about Garrett and his playcalling a little bit. In a report I sent to my employer I mentioned that he doesn't like to run very much and it seems he will give up on it when it's not working. My boss wrote me back explaining that more and more of the OCs in the league are starting to learn that running just to stay balanced gets you nowhere. He mentioned that I should pay closer attention to play calls when watching other teams, and note how many of them give up on the run if it's clearly not working.

I brought all that up to get to my final point. We've got to BE ABLE to run the ball next season. That is how this offense takes the next step. We need both more push up front at the snap, and a much higher success rate of hitting targets on the second level. Replacing Kosier and Nagy/Holland/Dockery will go a long way towards that goal. It'll be very interesting to see what this offensive line looks like the first day of training camp, and how it evolves from there. But at all costs, we have be able to consistently get chunk yardage out of the running game next season.


The best place on Earth.

I told Reality this back during the season, and I've heard it mentioned again recently, so I thought I'd share. Apparently, in the scouting/front office communities, Cowboyszone is considered to be the best fan site in the NFL by a pretty wide margin, and is considered to be right up there with the best fan sites in all of sports. You'd be floored by some of the people who have accounts here, and regularly check this site. You might be careful spouting off too many crazy opinions, you could have real NFL GMs with multiple Super Bowl rings laughing at you. But definitely big props to Reality, the mod staff, and everyone else who contributes to this board, pretty cool thing being singled out as the best.


As usual, I'll try to answer as many questions as I can for the next 24 hours or so. No questions about recent signings though, you can get those answers by listening to the upcoming radio show.

Dayum and I thought maybe Jerry would see me laughing at him. But you said real GMs.
 
RS12;4465169 said:
Hey CS not asking for names but do you know if anybody in Cowboys FO has an account here? I know Broaddus does (no longer affiliated with them).
Yeah, I know of at least one person.

CS, I've got a question to ask you about running in the red zone. Are teams stockpiling the middle of the OL to roadblock us, or are we trying too often to sweep wide and running into Safety help? Not a doubt in my mind that if we had some good old Moose blocking for Emmitt we could punch it in the end zone more than we have. Do you see improved interior OL and Murray behind Vickers as a very real possibility for some red zone success?

I do, but I think it hinges on DeCastro with maybe Bernadeau moving to Center or drafting Blake. I don't see how with last year's OL we were so bad, but I have no desire to repeat it.

Also, will moving Tyron Smith to LT force teams to cheat the MLB closer to the LOS and free up Witten or someone else on a dump over the middle?
 
Hi Couch...

With the Kyle Orton signing where does this leave McGee? Any possibility Dallas could draft a developmental QB and let McGee move on or is it pretty much a given McGee is back for at least one more year?

If you could see a scenario where Dallas would draft a developmental guy who do you like?
 
couchscout;4465129 said:
But definitely big props to Reality, the mod staff, and everyone else who contributes to this board, pretty cool thing being singled out as the best.

You're all welcome. I do what I can.

Perhaps you guys should take me a bit more seriously when I see a guy (RW31, Newman, Spears, James) being overrated long before it's cool to say so.

:laugh2:

Relax. I'm just kidding.

Seriously, nice job couch.
 
Ingram at 14 seems logical if Decastro is gone.

Would allow an athletic guy that can play multiple positions step in and could potentially take Spencers place if he struggles another year now that he has some help on the defense and in coverage.

As far as play calling is concerned our red zone troubles can be attributed to our OLs inability to ever get any push in the green zone and really ruined some well designed pass plays by simply blowing assignments. I expect 3 new starters plus the tackle switch.

The free agency splurge on defense tells me they weren't too high on guys like Dre, Jenkins, Barron, Burfict etc. Low character guys don't seem to fit Garrett's MO but I'm having a hard time seein Jerry convinced to take an OL first in back to back drafts. So if Decastro/Ingram is gone I can see us trading down and trying to get 3 staters in the first two rounds - best pass rusher, best interior linemen, and BPA if a stud falls. We've finally been given some flexibility by a great offseason.

Our holes are now C/G, DE, Pass rusher, 3rd WR (PR/KR), TE, DT, FS.

Decastro could mean one of the project guys move to center, Ingram and Joe Adams are reportedly on our radar.

A solid draft with 2 solid starters could put us over the top, hats off to the front office they've been prepared and got all the guys they were targeting from what I understand.

Cowboy nation should be pleased, if we hit a couple more home
runs like Lee, Murray, Dez, Smith this draft and we will be a serious force in the NFC.

On my iPhone so it's choppy but thanks for the insight CS you're the man.
 
Dave_in-NC;4465196 said:
Dayum and I thought maybe Jerry would see me laughing at him. But you said real GMs.


I am not surprised that real GMs would have accts here. Heck we probably have the most "talented" set of armchair QBs, GMs, Scouts, and what-have-yous here at the Zone.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
 
Bluestang;4465233 said:
I am not surprised that real GMs would have accts here. Heck we probably have the most "talented" set of armchair QBs, GMs, Scouts, and what-have-yous here at the Zone.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Well Jerry did cut owens after all my complaining he would ruin this team the day he signed him. But like every thing with Jerry, it took a while for him to get over his ego.:) :banjo:
 
couchscout;4465129 said:
Anthony Spencer

My employer asked me for an eval on Spencer a couple weeks back, and I told them the same thing I've told ya'll, that Spencer is an enigma to me, he's the hardest player on the team to evaluate...and it's not close. He wrote me back a few days after that explaining that when you break it down to it's simplest form, there are 3 types of players in the league. Guys who can't do it, guys who can do it but need help around them, and guys who can do it all by themselves. Spencer fits squarely in the can do it but needs help category. The majority of the players in the league are in the same category. At first I was steadfastly against franchising him, but then I started watching his tape some more, and I found some interesting things. He's not a bad player, by any stretch of the imagination. The nickname "Almost Anthony" is very apt. As a pass rusher, he is consistently almost there. When Spears/Lissemore would get a really good push, Spencer put a lot of heat on QBs. When those guys got stonewalled, Spencer's effectiveness dropped about 50%. Also, when the coverage was very good (happened way way too rarely this season), Spencer usually beat Ware to the QB (probably due to Ware getting extra attention, but still). Assuming the acquisitions we've made so far and will make in the draft turn out to be upgrades, I see no reason Spencer couldn't have a true breakout season. The Cowboys thinking could be along the lines of "let's give him one season in which we actually have a secondary, and then make a decision." Not a bad plan, I know this, Spencer wasn't the problem with the defense last year, and most likely won't be next season either.

Fair assessment.

Not really sure I can buy into the idea of needing all the talent in the world around him to succeed. If Dallas is going to pay him what they might pay him this season, he can't be a guy a who needs help. It just can't work. You can't have good players all around him and expect him to be great only when the other guys show up if you are paying him to be great consistently regardless of what happens next to him.

The case for Decastro

Guard just isn't that important of a position to have an elite player. Yeah, you want guys in there who can do the job, but the benefits from having an elite guard are far outweighed by having an elite player at almost any other position. Thats just football fact. However, Decastro has something going for him as far as being a draft prospect that not a single other draftee this season has. He's already better than 80% of the starting guards in the NFL. Most of the time, your drafting on potential, even when a guy is already good, you don't know how that is gonna translate to the next level. With Decastro, thats not a worry, there isn't a team in the league (except probably Tampa Bay) that has 2 guards better than him. He would start at one spot or the other for 31 teams, day one. No one else can say that.

This is pretty common statement and after seeing Romo end up with broken bones in 3 of the last 4 years, I think every position on the OL is highly undervalued by a lot of people, including myself up until the last few months.

I think the second bolded part sums it up. The guy would start for almost anyone. He is probably the safest pick in the draft. Luck is about as safe as it gets at QB but the track record of QBs isn't all that reassuring.

The case for a pass rusher

The Giants proved once again this season that impact an elite pass rusher can have. Having 2 or 3 of them is like having a huge bottle of wart-be-gone. It doesn't hardly matter what the rest of the defense is doing when the opposing QB is eating dirt every other play. The big problem with drafting these guys, is they seem to have the same boost or bust factor that QBs have. And teams around the NFL seem to have the same trouble figuring out which guy will translate to the next level, and which one won't. However, I think the Giants have laid out a very simple blueprint, you just keep drafting pass rushers, every draft. It doesn't matter if you already have Tuck, Kiwanuka, and Umenyoira, you take JPP anyway. This is why I think you'll see the Cowboys select someone they think can translate to the next level as a pass rusher. If none of those guys are there when they pick, then they take Decastro. Just my gut feeling.

I'd like to comment on pass rushers with a counter and refer back to the OL.

I can't remember who it was but a poster said something along the lines of:

"Getting a sack is considered an impact play but preventing a guy from getting a sack isn't"

Pass rushing is key, I really don't see why preventing pressure isn't.

The NFL is a reactionary beast. Everyone looks at another teams success and tries to emulate.

The Giants have a plethora of pass rushers and not having a whole gang of sack artists is the key.

The Patriots have two beastly TEs and now all of a sudden peoples eyes light up with the idea of the same.

I think it will all come full circle at one point. When teams focus in on pass rushers for so long, the only reasonable counter will be to get better OL.

I think trying to follow suit is kind of a foolish way to operate. You gotta do what is best for you team, not what might have worked for someone else.

What is best for Dallas is for Romo to be able to stand in the pocket for even a fraction of a second longer without getting his head taken off. Dallas has got to address the OL with some guys who have some talent. Making moves like the two guys they have signed aren't really reassuring considering one guy has hardly started aside from being forced into action and the other guy almost prompted a parade in Cincinnati when he signed in Dallas.

The best place on Earth.

I told Reality this back during the season, and I've heard it mentioned again recently, so I thought I'd share. Apparently, in the scouting/front office communities, Cowboyszone is considered to be the best fan site in the NFL by a pretty wide margin, and is considered to be right up there with the best fan sites in all of sports. You'd be floored by some of the people who have accounts here, and regularly check this site. You might be careful spouting off too many crazy opinions, you could have real NFL GMs with multiple Super Bowl rings laughing at you. But definitely big props to Reality, the mod staff, and everyone else who contributes to this board, pretty cool thing being singled out as the best.

Crazy opinions should be welcomed. Differing opinions drive conversation.

Any GM laughing at how ridiculous an idea might sound should probably stay anonymous. I'd bet money it wouldn't take more than 10 minutes to pull up a list of mistakes on their part.

Interesting piece though.
 

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