Could HGH, other supplements, be the reason for increased injuries?

[Tom Jones]

I think so!

Why didn't the players back then, I mean before the late '90s, have so many injuries? it's gotta be the juice they're taking.

Also,do any of you wonder HOW IN THE HECK DID A 19 YEAR OLD FRESHMAN win the Heisman?????

You're telling me this kid, fresh out of High School is head and shoulders above the talent level of ALL THE OTHER TALENTED college football players that have 3-4 years experience under their belt.

Johnny Football will be found out soon, sad to say.

That boy SHOULD NOT have won the Heisman! NO WAY, NO HOW!

 

[TheRomoSexual]

Haha, man, Longhorn tears are delicious.

 

[Tom Jones]

Haha, man, Longhorn fans are quite butthurt still.

If you're implying that I am a Longhorn fan, I am not. I'm not even a College football fan since the '80s.

 

[laythewood28]

Easier ota's, training camps and practices are the reason for increased injuries.

 

[TheRomoSexual]

If you're implying that I am a Longhorn fan, I am not. I'm not even a College football fan since the '80s.

If you were a college football fan, you wouldn't say something as silly as Manziel didn't deserve the Heisman.

 

[Tom Jones]

Easier ota's, training camps and practices are the reason for increased injuries.

I've considered that, but supplements will increase strength and growth, but that in turn will make a person more apt to "reach a little farther" "turn a little quicker" "push a little harder" because the athlete now thinks he is superman. The body can only take so much stress before it breaks. Supplements rob the body of it's communication with the "knowing when to ease back" process. Therefore, you'll have more tears and stress injuries.

hamstrings anyone?????

 

[gdogg24]

Well I don't know the side effects of using HGH, I know they're more long term, but as I understand it HGH provides recovery benefits more than anything else. If anything I might say all these injuries are a result of it not being used enough

 

[Future]

Guys just arent fighting through them as much anymore. There might be a few more injuries, but I think that, for the most part, the reason we hear more about injuries is that training staffs and even the players themselves are putting more emphasis on them.

 

[Tom Jones]

If you were a college football fan, you wouldn't say something as silly as Manziel didn't deserve the Heisman.

My bad. Johnny clearly is super talented, he just didn't really earn it fairly. Too much, too soon. Like having a racehorse win it's first time out. But wait! aren't racehorses drugged too! Oops!

 

[Hailmary]

Guys just arent fighting through them as much anymore. There might be a few more injuries, but I think that, for the most part, the reason we hear more about injuries is that training staffs and even the players themselves are putting more emphasis on them.

I think this is a very good point. The majority of players in the past weren't seen as investments like players are today. With so much money being thrown around these days, players and owners are going to want to protect themselves or their investments. This isn't true just in football, but in all sports.

Better knowledge in sports medicine is also leading everyone to side on the side of caution more.

Also, a lack in proper technique and fundamentals could be blamed for more injuries. It's not surprising to see all the concussions when everyone is going for the kill shot. I blame ESPN for this.

Finally, players were built much thicker in the past. The super athletes of today have traded in body fat for chiseled bodies and I think they may have lost some elasticity in their joints and muscles in the process. HGH might have something to do with that, but I think better nutrition and workout regiments might have a role as well.

 

[Rockport]

I think so!

Why didn't the players back then, I mean before the late '90s, have so many injuries? it's gotta be the juice they're taking.

Also,do any of you wonder HOW IN THE HECK DID A 19 YEAR OLD FRESHMAN win the Heisman?????

You're telling me this kid, fresh out of High School is head and shoulders above the talent level of ALL THE OTHER TALENTED college football players that have 3-4 years experience under their belt.

Johnny Football will be found out soon, sad to say.

That boy SHOULD NOT have won the Heisman! NO WAY, NO HOW!

Jeez. I'm speechless.

 

[Rockport]

Where are the stats that say there are more injuries this year or last compared to some other point in time? This is a good example of how perception becomes reality.

 

[CATCH17]

I think the nature of the sport plus the players lifting and getting so tight all offseason and not having ligaments and tendons that are trained for football but for bodybuilding actually causes a lot of injuries.


Go lift weights and do compound movements for 8 months straight and try to go run or play basketball and see if you don't pull and snap all kinds of stuff up.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

They had on guy on SiriusXM talking about this. He attributes the tears, Achilles and muscles tears, to HGH. They did mention stats, especially Achilles tears, are way up.

 

[Tom Jones]

They had on guy on SiriusXM talking about this. He attributes the tears, Achilles and muscles tears, to HGH. They did mention stats, especially Achilles tears, are way up.

tht's what I thought

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I think it's a big reason for the injuries. Humans essentially are born with bones and joints that are designed to hold so much muscle mass and body weight. And we don't really know if HGH attributes other deficiencies as well.

That being said, HGH has been around and quite popular for about 20 years. And steroids were quite popular before that. I think it really boils down the culture of wanting to be the biggest, fastest and the strongest. Somebody taking a moderate amount of HGH won't get as big and won't break down as much. But with all of the money at stake, we have linebackers that want to be 260 pounds and running 4.4 forty times. Something has to give.





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[Rockport]

They had on guy on SiriusXM talking about this. He attributes the tears, Achilles and muscles tears, to HGH. They did mention stats, especially Achilles tears, are way up.

Well if you heard it on Sirius XM then it must be true. I'd like to see some stats as I really don't think injuries have gone up over the past few years. You can pick a team like the Cowboys and say last year injuries increased, but that's a small sample. Stats from the entire NFL would be more meaningful.

 

[khiladi]

First of all, PEDs goes way back before the 90s. I recently read some information regarding Arnold, who was one of the instrumental guys who brought steroids to the West for odybuilding. I'm sure it made it's way into proessional sports in the 70s. The techniques have gotten more advanced though. As far as injuries, absolutely, because drugs like HGH and steroids don't strengthen tendons and muscle sheaths. This becomes a problem for explosive movements especially which bear the force generated by the muscle. Wear and tear becomes especially prominent in tail-end of careers.

 

[khiladi]

How much do really know about how PEDs can screw up even a person's mental make-up? Chris Benoit comes to mind and do we really know if Seau's mental issues weren't a result of them. It's entirely possible all that built-up testosterone and 'rage' effect caused problems with dealing with retirement. Who knows what they pop and how it reacts wth various medicines they get prescribed for themselves nowadays?

 

[khiladi]

Additionally, fat has it's advantages for particular positions, meaning the chiseled body isn't suited for it. Cross-fitters norally hover aroun 10-12 percent body-fat, because one needs the energy stores for longer events. Less fat means more muscle-breakdown to use for energy, after glycogen is depleted. The same is the case with lineman, who are battling consistently all day and not just in shot bursts.