Could Jadeveon Clowney sign a 1 year deal with Dallas?

[darthseinfeld]

I don't like clowneys injury history, and I also don't trust DLAW. I understand that he was double teamed, but surely half way through the season teams adjusted that because of Quinn wreaking havoc right? I'd love to trade DLaw to the jags and work out a long-term deal for Ngakoue who doesn't run his mouth and is not happy in Jacksonville.

He had one of the highest double team rates in the NFL. And even with that he had a very good pass rush win rate. Statistically he had a very good season as a pass rusher. He just didnt finish with many sacks.

Dwight Freeney had several similar seasons throughout his career

 

[Portnoy1]

DLaw is pretty much untradrable right now. You will eat way too much dead cap

Its frustrating but I don't blame the cowboys on this one. He balled out his last season under contract, then did it again under a tag. No one seen this season coming from him. And the argument people make about Quinn benefiting is non sense because you know teams started to account for him at least half way through the season cause of his high productivity. Yet DLAWs stats didn't improve.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Its frustrating but I don't blame the cowboys on this one. He balled out his last season under contract, then did it again under a tag. No one seen this season coming from him. And the argument people make about Quinn benefiting is non sense because you know teams started to account for him at least half way through the season cause of his high productivity. Yet DLAWs stats didn't improve.

Lawrence was still double teamed at a high level. It didnt drop off

 

[Portnoy1]

Lawrence was still double teamed at a high level. I didnt drop off

I haven't seen any statistics, so I'll trust your judgement. But I still find it odd that teams would double DLAW deep into the season and just hope for the best on the other side against Quinn who I am sure also had a high win rate. Honestly I'm fine losing Quinn, but I'll have to keep an eye on DLAW. I do understand why they would double team him, but did they not double team him the previous two seasons as well with even less talent on the other side yet he overcame. I also don't like that his talking has increased. I've only seen ONCE where it worked and that was against the saints.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I haven't seen any statistics, so I'll trust your judgement. But I still find it odd that teams would double DLAW deep into the season and just hope for the best on the other side against Quinn who I am sure also had a high win rate. Honestly I'm fine losing Quinn, but I'll have to keep an eye on DLAW. I do understand why they would double team him, but did they not double team him the previous two seasons as well with even less talent on the other side yet he overcame. I also don't like that his talking has increased. I've only seen ONCE where it worked and that was against the saints.

I know, a bit of an eyesore. But this chart gives you both the double team rate, and win rate for edge rushers

 

[darthseinfeld]

I haven't seen any statistics, so I'll trust your judgement. But I still find it odd that teams would double DLAW deep into the season and just hope for the best on the other side against Quinn who I am sure also had a high win rate. Honestly I'm fine losing Quinn, but I'll have to keep an eye on DLAW. I do understand why they would double team him, but did they not double team him the previous two seasons as well with even less talent on the other side yet he overcame. I also don't like that his talking has increased. I've only seen ONCE where it worked and that was against the saints.

Quinn was actually equal to Lawrence in double team rate, and ahead in win rate. We had one of the effective edge pressue tandems in the NFL. Maybe the most effective

 

[Dre11]

Lol. In Maryland you cannot find toilet paper. People are crazy. What do you think of Anthony Weaver Boise State defensive end?

You have to come to Howard County or Southern Maryland

 

[Portnoy1]

Quinn was actually equal to Lawrence in double team rate, and ahead in win rate. We had one of the effective edge pressue tandems in the NFL. Maybe the most effective

So if that the case that is very disturbing because that means that we should have been destroying guys up the middle then....right?

 

[darthseinfeld]

So if that the case that is very disturbing because that means that we should have been destroying guys up the middle then....right?

Collins was #4 amongst DT's.

Pass rush really wasnt our issue defensively last year. In fact we had one of the best pass rushing units in the NFL

 

[Portnoy1]

Collins was #4 amongst DT's.

Pass rush really wasnt our issue defensively last year. In fact we had one of the best pass rushing units in the NFL

STRANGE!!!!! why was the defense so inconsistent? The talent was there it seems and some stats back that up, but........?

 

[darthseinfeld]

STRANGE!!!!! why was the defense so inconsistent? The talent was there it seems and some stats back that up, but........?

Statistically speaking we were above the NFL average overall as a unit. 11th in both yardage and scoring. However we did have inconsistent and uneven play on the back end, and we really struggled to create TO's. On the field, the TO's are probably what did the team more than anything. TO production may have turned a couple of those close games we lost

 

[cowboyschmps3]

Could he sign a 1 yr deal with Dallas?

Look what Lawrence did for Quinn. Take a generous 12mil deal and go into FA next yr and cash in. Bet on yourself and prove your worth it. Quinn was a afterthought in Miami before the guy on the other side of Dallas' DL took all the attention and gave him new life on his career. He could do the same for Clowney IMO

That’s what I’m saying lol

 

[baltcowboy]

You have to come to Howard County or Southern Maryland

So you all are getting all the toilet paper. My daughter and her mother are driving me crazy. Thanks. I will go to Howard County.

 

[Carson]

Not happening. He’s not older OR wasn’t on the team last year

 

[MyFairLady]

Clowney on a 1 year deal would be the dream. Reality is he is gonna want the opposite of that.

 

[Dre11]

So you all are getting all the toilet paper. My daughter and her mother are driving me crazy. Thanks. I will go to Howard County.

yes. the Wal-Mart off 40 in Ellicott City

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Agree 100% Op on a 1-year prove-it deal.....but $12-13M is highest I'd. Frankly, it's the best route for him coz it's pretty obvious the market is telling him he's not getting anything to $20M.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...fl-free-agents-of-2020-who-will-sign-jameis-w
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Jadeveon Clowney

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Clowney's production doesn't always match the hype, but he can still hijack an offense at peak moments -- often in the biggest games. Don't let the three-sack total fool you: He was a difference-maker in his Seattle debut, as the pass rush tended to vanish for quarters at a time whenever he missed stretches due to nagging injuries.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I would offer him a 1 year 15 million contract. See what happens. He is not the pass rusher Quinn is but he is devastating against the run and a better all around end.

Id be very much for this.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

I don't like clowneys injury history, and I also don't trust DLAW. I understand that he was double teamed, but surely half way through the season teams adjusted that because of Quinn wreaking havoc right? I'd love to trade DLaw to the jags and work out a long-term deal for Ngakoue who doesn't run his mouth and is not happy in Jacksonville.

Which is why Clowney on a 1 year deal makes sense. It's a chance for him to prove his worth. If he balls out, then great. If not, no major hit. And, if he leaves after the ball out year, blimey that's going to be a nice comp pick.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Clowney on a 1 year deal would be the dream. Reality is he is gonna want the opposite of that.

At this point, he may have to settle for a 1 year prove it deal.