Could Terence Steele play guard

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Just curious

Martin is probably done here...I can see him coming back mainly because he's going to count some $26 million if we don't extend him and if so, then I think this is a moot point

But if we need to replace Martin, could Steele be the answer? His run blocking grade with pff was actually really good, it's the pass protection where he hasn't really returned to his pre injury form
 
June 1st cut salary cap hit is only $9,400,000 for Martin. Unless he is physically in a much better place than last year he sadly needs to go.

Depending on who the Cowboys get in FA or the draft, Steele could be going also.
 
Just needs to focus on guarding the QB's throwing side! Run blocking he GUARDS that pretty decently
 
big dog cowboy said:
June 1st cut salary cap hit is only $9,400,000 for Martin. Unless he is physically in a much better place than last year he sadly needs to go.

Depending on who the Cowboys get in FA or the draft, Steele could be going also.
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Why are you mentioning Martin, how much would it cost for Stelle post June 1st, I thought it was 14 million don't quote me on that
 
Its an interesting idea, but the Cowboys seem to have options at the interior positions. They really need the competition at T if they are going to keep Steel on the roster. Honestly from his play the back half of the year I would be surprised if they looked at anything but keeping him at RT.
 
big dog cowboy said:
June 1st cut salary cap hit is only $9,400,000 for Martin. Unless he is physically in a much better place than last year he sadly needs to go.

Depending on who the Cowboys get in FA or the draft, Steele could be going also.
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the problem is...he doesn't have a salary for 2025 therefor we can't wait until June 1st to cut him

I guess pre-designate him
 
Manwiththeplan said:
Just curious

Martin is probably done here...I can see him coming back mainly because he's going to count some $26 million if we don't extend him and if so, then I think this is a moot point

But if we need to replace Martin, could Steele be the answer? His run blocking grade with pff was actually really good, it's the pass protection where he hasn't really returned to his pre injury form
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we have guards let's take the money out of it I think bass and Hoffman could play either guard position and do it pretty well, for less money... He did improve as the year went on last year maybe they keep on but he's possibly gonna be cut to save some on the salary cap they might move guyton over there and then they're gonna have to experiment with Richards or somebody else at left tackle but we need tackles that's my point I think we have plenty of guards and centers to fill all positions and backup positions right now it will be the tackle position that we're lighting... so I say no to moving him it's not happening but he's either gonna be completely cut or possibly they make him rework his contract to take less money I don't know
 
What the Cowboys did with Martin's contract is why this team is such a mess. Pushing $27 million into voidable years while paying Dak $60 million a year is about as incompetent as it gets. As I said with Dak, I would not resign Martin and take his entire CAP hit all in 2025 so he is off the book in 2026 when I take Dak's CAP hit and get him off the books.

This team is going nowhere anytime soon, may as well clean off all the CAP garbage and prepare for an overhaul.
 
Creeper said:
What the Cowboys did with Martin's contract is why this team is such a mess. Pushing $27 million into voidable years while paying Dak $60 million a year is about as incompetent as it gets. As I said with Dak, I would not resign Martin and take his entire CAP hit all in 2025 so he is off the book in 2026 when I take Dak's CAP hit and get him off the books.

This team is going nowhere anytime soon, may as well clean off all the CAP garbage and prepare for an overhaul.
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Yeah but the irony here is people were upset at Jerry that he didn't do it sooner and Jerry was thinking about not doing it and there were 75% of people here that were saying that Jerry's cheap and he needs to take care of Martin now all of a sudden the narrative has switched again when we see that Jerry was right Martin was breaking down and Martin held Jerry hostage and as much as I like Martin I love what he's done for the Cowboys that was a low move he knew himself where he was headed as far as his physical and his play on the field and yet he went ahead and robbed Jerry of some money on his way out.

Don't get it twisted I read all the nonsense leading up to that the whole better pay Martin he deserves it Jerry don't be cheap etc etc. And it wasn't just the fans here the media was saying it as well and that's what happens when people get what they wish for and turns out Jerry might have been right he was very hesitant and he was pushing back he did not wanna pay Martin..
 
blueblood70 said:
we have guards let's take the money out of it I think bass and Hoffman could play either guard position and do it pretty well, for less money... He did improve as the year went on last year maybe they keep on but he's possibly gonna be cut to save some on the salary cap they might move guyton over there and then they're gonna have to experiment with Richards or somebody else at left tackle but we need tackles that's my point I think we have plenty of guards and centers to fill all positions and backup positions right now it will be the tackle position that we're lighting... so I say no to moving him it's not happening but he's either gonna be completely cut or possibly they make him rework his contract to take less money I don't know
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If he's going to be a post June 1st cut, I'd rather move him to guard...let him work out there and compete in training camp

If they're better sure, but I think Steele will actually be much better than Bass/Hoffman
 
Return to his pre injury form. LOL.

Terence Steele always sucked as a starter. He hasn't returned to his pre injury form just like Prescott hasn't.
 
Hopefully he can be a security guard at the stadium after he's cut and replaced with someone who is a legit RT.
 
Creeper said:
What the Cowboys did with Martin's contract is why this team is such a mess. Pushing $27 million into voidable years while paying Dak $60 million a year is about as incompetent as it gets. As I said with Dak, I would not resign Martin and take his entire CAP hit all in 2025 so he is off the book in 2026 when I take Dak's CAP hit and get him off the books.

This team is going nowhere anytime soon, may as well clean off all the CAP garbage and prepare for an overhaul.
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You can get anything you want off the books we know this where they spending the money if they're not big free agent spenders they live through the draft and budget free agents you act like if they got this Bing windfall of money on the cat that they're gonna use it properly so you wanna get rid of Prescott and eat all that money just to be bad I think you're one of those people that wanna be in the top five of the draft for the next three years and you would rather be bad then at least have a shot at being good and I'm sorry you just can't do that I know it worked for Denver but it typically is not what teams do they don't eat $60 million and then get worse at the position that was just plain luck and only long term we find out if it was a good move or not but that would not be my plan and it's too late for some of it now two years from now we need to find a way to move on from Prescott but right now when you just resign him and his new money doesn't kick in till right now so yeah maybe at the end of 2026 but not for 2026 we need to keep Prescott for 2025 and 2026...

Now here's the disclaimer I'm putting on my statement now if Prescott looks that all this coming season and somehow he did fall off a Cliff and it just looks like he just is done like washed completely yeah sure you're gonna then have to have a backup plan and try to move on from him but I don't think that's the case the last time he had a major injury was 2020 everybody was talking about him maybe never rebounding from it it could have been a career ender and he turned in one of his best seasons of his career literally 37 touchdowns 10 interceptions a very good year I believe he's going to be motivated because of the bad season the Cowboys had as a whole but him also missing out on participating in the rest of the year he's usually one of those players that will be mo....e of his better seasons again in 2025..​
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Cowboys need to focus not on cutting these dudes and getting more cap money we need to have one of the best drafts we've had in forever we need to make sure we get can't miss skill players no projects no Flyers no reaches no no injured players in the second round you literally need to make sure your top three draft picks all are day one starters... I don't think they can go wrong with it either no matter what position they pick they just need to be an impact player we have holes all over the place so I just don't think they can get this wrong best player available make sure they have some juice just get them on our team..​
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Then we have to hope we don't have the bad luck of being one of the most injured teams of 2024 and not have that same bad luck..​
 
Manwiththeplan said:
If he's going to be a post June 1st cut, I'd rather move him to guard...let him work out there and compete in training camp

If they're better sure, but I think Steele will actually be much better than Bass/Hoffman
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I know what you'd rather do but I'm telling you we have really good options at guard right now we have too many guards and centers and not enough tackles therefore they have to make their decision is it gonna keep him as a tackle whether he restructures his deal completely make it incentive laden and then keep him as a swing tackle possibly but no I'm totally against him at guard we have plenty of those on this team..

The only way that makes sense and the team seems apprehensive I don't think they're gonna do it is moving Tyler Smith to left tackle then you can mess around with some of what you have left on the team but that's not happening it doesn't seem like they wanna do it they didn't really do it last year unless they had to they had an opportunity to experiment with it and they chose not to...
 
Manwiththeplan said:
Just curious

Martin is probably done here...I can see him coming back mainly because he's going to count some $26 million if we don't extend him and if so, then I think this is a moot point

But if we need to replace Martin, could Steele be the answer? His run blocking grade with pff was actually really good, it's the pass protection where he hasn't really returned to his pre injury form
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He has been terrible since his injury.
 
Manwiththeplan said:
Just curious

Martin is probably done here...I can see him coming back mainly because he's going to count some $26 million if we don't extend him and if so, then I think this is a moot point

But if we need to replace Martin, could Steele be the answer? His run blocking grade with pff was actually really good, it's the pass protection where he hasn't really returned to his pre injury form
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Rather cut him
 
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