Cowboys 4-4 but still in it.

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What a depressing loss that was. I know alot of us are down right now, but looking at the standing in the NFC, we are not out of this thing. In fact, I feel better about us now at 4-4 than I did when we were 3-3.

Yes, this team has issues, but so do most of the other teams in the NFC. Lets look at the standings:

W L T |PCT| |PF |PA Team.......... Streak
7 1 0 0.875 234 100 Chicago....... Lost 1
6 2 0 0.750 194 144 N.Y. Giants... Won 5
6 2 0 0.750 198 159 New Orleans... Won 1
5 3 0 0.625 167 164 Atlanta....... Lost 1
4 3 0 0.571 149 177 Seattle....... Lost 2
4 4 0 0.500 223 164 Dallas........ Lost 1
4 4 0 0.500 206 160 Philadelphia.. Lost 3
4 4 0 0.500 130 135 Minnesota..... Lost 2
4 4 0 0.500 137 163 Carolina...... Lost 2
4 4 0 0.500 180 197 St. Louis..... Lost 3
3 5 0 0.375 162 190 Washington.... Won 1
3 5 0 0.375 162 200 Green Bay..... Lost 1
3 5 0 0.375 143 238 San Francisco. Won 1
2 6 0 0.250 162 203 Detroit....... Won 1
2 6 0 0.250 102 173 Tampa Bay..... Lost 2
1 7 0 0.125 134 196 Arizona....... Lost 7

Six teams are going to the playoffs for the NFC. Chicago, New Orleans, and The Giants are in full command of their divisions. Seattle has the best record in theirs, but they haven’t exactly been lighting it up. Since the Giants are in firm control, it looks like the only chance the Cowboys have is a wildcard birth.

Who is in the wildcard hunt? Really pretty much every team in the NFC not listed above save Detroit, Tampa Bay, and Arizona. Unlike the AFC where a 4-4 record is looking like its too late, in the NFC it puts you in your own driver’s seat. Even the teams at 3-5 still have a chance. Pretty amazing really.

What looks good for Dallas? First and for most, our schedule. Of the remaining 8 games on the schedule, 5 will be at home. That is huge, especially in the new “parity” NFL. Home field advantage really means something. Of the 9 NFC teams in the NFC “Wildcard Hunt” only 1 has a loosing record at home. Another thing is, unlike years past, we are actually putting points on the board. This team can score, which means we are never really out of a game. On the defensive side, we are giving up an average of 20 points a game, but in comparison to the rest of the “Wildcard Hunt NFC” only Minnesota’s defense is allowing significantly less, and they have the same problem we used to have (think offense). Our point differential looks good. Also, take a look at some of the streaks for those teams around us. Quite a few of them got off to good starts, but are now loosing.

But really why do I feel better now? I remember telling my wife before the Giant's game when they were talking about the possibility of Romo comming in that "I would rather see us loose with Romo, than continue to play Bledsoe". Personally I didn't think Bledsoe would win us many games anyway, and at least we could see what we had in Romo. He is playing surprisingly well, and if he keeps it up, then we can win any given Sunday no matter the opponent. Can you imagine if the Cowboys have finally answered their QB question? Not only does it give me hope for this year, but for years to come.

Anyway, there is still hope.

BBQ
 

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BBQ101;1147505 said:
W L T |PCT| |PF |PA Team.......... Streak Seeding
7 1 0 0.875 234 100 Chicago....... Lost 1 1
6 2 0 0.750 194 144 N.Y. Giants... Won 5 2 or 3
6 2 0 0.750 198 159 New Orleans... Won 1 2 or 3
5 3 0 0.625 167 164 Atlanta....... Lost 1 5
4 3 0 0.571 149 177 Seattle....... Lost 2 4
4 4 0 0.500 223 164 Dallas........ Lost 1 9
4 4 0 0.500 206 160 Philadelphia.. Lost 3 8
4 4 0 0.500 130 135 Minnesota..... Lost 2 6
4 4 0 0.500 137 163 Carolina...... Lost 2 10
4 4 0 0.500 180 197 St. Louis..... Lost 3 7
3 5 0 0.375 162 190 Washington.... Won 1
3 5 0 0.375 162 200 Green Bay..... Lost 1
3 5 0 0.375 143 238 San Francisco. Won 1
2 6 0 0.250 162 203 Detroit....... Won 1
2 6 0 0.250 102 173 Tampa Bay..... Lost 2
1 7 0 0.125 134 196 Arizona....... Lost 7

See the current playoff seedings added above.
 

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Until they say we are mathmatically eleminated then we hava a chance.
 

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More importantly is that Dallas still plays a large number of NFC games and gets to play Atlanta, NO, Philly to have more of a direct impact on their destiny.

Dallas already owns the head to head with Carolina, so that is big. They also have the same chance to do that to Atlanta. So that would be two.

You have to hope Minnesota and St. Louis keep losing.

If Dallas only loses to the Giants and the Colts and go 10-6, it will be pretty interesting and I think they'll get in.
 

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31smackdown;1147739 said:
If Dallas only loses to the Giants and the Colts and go 10-6, it will be pretty interesting and I think they'll get in.

Yeah, good luck with that.
 

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BBQ101;1147505 said:
What a depressing loss that was. I know alot of us are down right now, but looking at the standing in the NFC, we are not out of this thing. In fact, I feel better about us now at 4-4 than I did when we were 3-3.

Yes, this team has issues, but so do most of the other teams in the NFC. Lets look at the standings:

W L T |PCT| |PF |PA Team.......... Streak
7 1 0 0.875 234 100 Chicago....... Lost 1
6 2 0 0.750 194 144 N.Y. Giants... Won 5
6 2 0 0.750 198 159 New Orleans... Won 1
5 3 0 0.625 167 164 Atlanta....... Lost 1
4 3 0 0.571 149 177 Seattle....... Lost 2
4 4 0 0.500 223 164 Dallas........ Lost 1
4 4 0 0.500 206 160 Philadelphia.. Lost 3
4 4 0 0.500 130 135 Minnesota..... Lost 2
4 4 0 0.500 137 163 Carolina...... Lost 2
4 4 0 0.500 180 197 St. Louis..... Lost 3
3 5 0 0.375 162 190 Washington.... Won 1
3 5 0 0.375 162 200 Green Bay..... Lost 1
3 5 0 0.375 143 238 San Francisco. Won 1
2 6 0 0.250 162 203 Detroit....... Won 1
2 6 0 0.250 102 173 Tampa Bay..... Lost 2
1 7 0 0.125 134 196 Arizona....... Lost 7

Six teams are going to the playoffs for the NFC. Chicago, New Orleans, and The Giants are in full command of their divisions. Seattle has the best record in theirs, but they haven’t exactly been lighting it up. Since the Giants are in firm control, it looks like the only chance the Cowboys have is a wildcard birth.

Who is in the wildcard hunt? Really pretty much every team in the NFC not listed above save Detroit, Tampa Bay, and Arizona. Unlike the AFC where a 4-4 record is looking like its too late, in the NFC it puts you in your own driver’s seat. Even the teams at 3-5 still have a chance. Pretty amazing really.

What looks good for Dallas? First and for most, our schedule. Of the remaining 8 games on the schedule, 5 will be at home. That is huge, especially in the new “parity” NFL. Home field advantage really means something. Of the 9 NFC teams in the NFC “Wildcard Hunt” only 1 has a loosing record at home. Another thing is, unlike years past, we are actually putting points on the board. This team can score, which means we are never really out of a game. On the defensive side, we are giving up an average of 20 points a game, but in comparison to the rest of the “Wildcard Hunt NFC” only Minnesota’s defense is allowing significantly less, and they have the same problem we used to have (think offense). Our point differential looks good. Also, take a look at some of the streaks for those teams around us. Quite a few of them got off to good starts, but are now loosing.

But really why do I feel better now? I remember telling my wife before the Giant's game when they were talking about the possibility of Romo comming in that "I would rather see us loose with Romo, than continue to play Bledsoe". Personally I didn't think Bledsoe would win us many games anyway, and at least we could see what we had in Romo. He is playing surprisingly well, and if he keeps it up, then we can win any given Sunday no matter the opponent. Can you imagine if the Cowboys have finally answered their QB question? Not only does it give me hope for this year, but for years to come.

Anyway, there is still hope.

BBQ


In no way shape or form have I given up. We are still alive and breathing, we have the ability, but we have to start playing much smarter. If we do that this team can make a run!
 

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Champsheart;1147757 said:
In no way shape or form have I given up.

You aren't on the field! It isn't your place to give up or not, it would be different if you were a player. I'm worried it's the Dallas Cowboys who have given up, not fans on the internets;)
 

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thekavorka;1147752 said:
Yeah, good luck with that.


Nov 12@Arizona
Nov 19Indianapolis
Nov 23Tampa Bay
Dec 3@N.Y. Giants
Dec 10New Orleansdocument
Dec 16@Atlanta
Dec 25Philadelphia
Dec 31Detroit


So you don't think it's possible to beat Arizona, Tampa(at home), New Orleans(At home), Atlanta(key game), Philly(at home) and Detroit(at Home)?

How do any of those teams scare you? All of them are beatable, especially at home. It's also not impossible to beat the Giants after the post Thanksgiving rest.. so that would give Dallas a game of slack to lose 1 in it's place, if they can pull out a win.

All I'm saying is that is not impossible.. and not even that difficult a road if this team plays to it's potential. Most people before the season were guessing that we would split our division games, so if that holds true then Dallas wins against Philly and the Giants.

The only team that I'm having trouble seeing us beat is Indy...
 

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i still think we should go 10-6, i see us for sure beating...

arizona, tampa, new orleans, philly and detroit.

and we will get a W against one of ATL, Indy, or NYG.
 

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Very nice summary, and there's definitely hope. With the way this team plays when it's not shooting itself in the foot, there's hope for really big things. We're not losing because the other teams are ridiculously better than we are. They're losing because it's a stupid football team. The talent is absolutely there to be a contender, expecially with how Romo's playing. It's just the boneheadedness of the team. This is a problem that can be fixed during the season, on the players part. The season hinges on whether or not it WILL be fixed during the season, though.
 

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MC KAos;1147872 said:
...and we will get a W against one of ATL, Indy, or NYG.

We couldn't handle Mark "Freakin" Brunnell, why do you think we could handle Michael "Freakin" Vick, or Eli Manning, or Payton Manning.

Wow, looking at that, that doesn't look too good.:(
 

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GoCowboysGo;1147926 said:
We couldn't handle Mark "Freakin" Brunnell, why do you think we could handle Michael "Freakin" Vick, or Eli Manning, or Payton Manning.

Wow, looking at that, that doesn't look too good.:(
Only time will tell. Look at what the Dolphins did yesterday.
 

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otero1;1147928 said:
Only time will tell. Look at what the Dolphins did yesterday.

They did the same thing vs. Arizona, our next opponent, who also happens to have two weeks to prepare for the Cowboys.
 

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GoCowboysGo;1147926 said:
We couldn't handle Mark "Freakin" Brunnell, why do you think we could handle Michael "Freakin" Vick, or Eli Manning, or Payton Manning.

Wow, looking at that, that doesn't look too good.:(

Wow, um Brunell only threw for 192 yds and 1 TD. Also he had 1 turnover. I think thats containment.

Lets cross that bridge when we get there. All i am focused on is our game against ARI this sunday. MUST WIN!!!

I think after such an emotional loss yesterday, this team is riled up and ready to whoop some cardinal ***!!!!!!
 

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Wow, um Brunell only threw for 192 yds and 1 TD. Also he had 1 turnover. I think thats containment.

Lets cross that bridge when we get there. All i am focused on is our game against ARI this sunday. MUST WIN!!!

I think after such an emotional loss yesterday, this team is riled up and ready to whoop some cardinal ***!!!!!!

So many fans here are caught up in numbers, stats. Stats are for...LOSERS!

Brunnell moved the ball well when he had to, he knew that we have a terribly suspect secondary, (just like Bell said today in his PC), so he knew he had a shot.

If the refs called all the penalties, we would have had well over 200 yards in penalties!

And Denny Green's team is up next with two weeks to get ready! Haven't they beaten Dallas recently?:mad:
 

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31smackdown;1147853 said:
Nov 12@Arizona
Nov 19Indianapolis
Nov 23Tampa Bay
Dec 3@N.Y. Giants
Dec 10New Orleansdocument
Dec 16@Atlanta
Dec 25Philadelphia
Dec 31Detroit


So you don't think it's possible to beat Arizona, Tampa(at home), New Orleans(At home), Atlanta(key game), Philly(at home) and Detroit(at Home)?

How do any of those teams scare you? All of them are beatable, especially at home. It's also not impossible to beat the Giants after the post Thanksgiving rest.. so that would give Dallas a game of slack to lose 1 in it's place, if they can pull out a win.

All I'm saying is that is not impossible.. and not even that difficult a road if this team plays to it's potential. Most people before the season were guessing that we would split our division games, so if that holds true then Dallas wins against Philly and the Giants.

The only team that I'm having trouble seeing us beat is Indy...

Of course, in the NFL nothing is impossible. But I think going 6-2 is very improbable. All I see on this board are "ifs". "If" we play to our potential. "If we stop killing ourselves with penalties. "If" we stop giving up big plays. Well, it's halfway through the season, and none of those problems are solved. I don't see that changing in the second half of the season. The only thing consistent about this team is the inconsistency.

Philly(at home), Saints (at home), Falcons (away), Giants(away), and Colts(home) are all VERY tough games. Don't take the Lions, Bucs, or Cards for granted either.

Of course, I'm not giving up on the season yet. I'm just being extra cautious.
 

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BBQ101;1147505 said:
2 6 0 0.250 162 203 Detroit....... Won 1
2 6 0 0.250 102 173 Tampa Bay..... Lost 2
1 7 0 0.125 134 196 Arizona....... Lost 7

Realize that we play these three teams, two at home. We've gotta take all three for us to have any chance, IMO.

I believe the most important game for us will be Indy (like Denver last year). I don't expect to defeat New York in Jersey but a win against Indy followed up by a defeat of the Bucs would do wonders for us. With Strahan and Burress banged up, ten days of rest, and a winning streak at our backs, we'll also have a much better shot at New York.

Indy is the key game, though. We end their winning streak and follow it up with a win and that could re-make our entire team.
 
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