CFZ Cowboys 4 legitimate Head Coaches in the Jones era

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Any Cowboy fan supporting Switzer ( needed 3 paragraphs ) while bashing Jimmy over Jethro has motives to prop up our ownership.

Sorry this era under Jethro Jone$ went to crap after Jimmy left and the black cloud still hangs over it.

Even Jethro said any of 500 coaches could have won with that team. Switzer was our 1st puppet and an example of what was to come.
I still remember after that SB, Barry yelling we did it your way to Jerry. That was very telling.
 

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You must not be a fan. Aikman talked about the lack of discipline post Jimmy many times.
Jethro wanted Switzer for spiteful reasons.

One to knock Jimmy off of only HC to win a championship in NFL and NCAA and to prove any of 500 coaches could win with that team.

But mostly the first reason which Jimmy was basically being heralded as one of if not greatest ever because of that.
 

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You seem a bit bitter toward Jimmy.
I'm not bitter. I just have no respect for the man. He treated everyone around him like crap, including players, employers, and even his own family. He's not someone I would emulate.
 

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He was responsible for that very team...and you say it's just on a job or no job status yet claim inheritance rights for everything. Who does that fool then?

Jimmy wasn't asking for anything not expected by any GM in sport...respect as to role as well as actual accountability. Not just functional That is called professional accountability. That was Jimmy's job, not smiling in front of trophies. The trophies go to the team.
Don't 'like' has no place in matters of integrity. Simple concepts such as demonstration of ownership for credits in a franchise can easily be talked through. As well as team decisions made at that point. But there are professional standards that have to be respected as well. Jimmy abused his position at the cost of his boss. That lacks ethics there.
 

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I'm not bitter. I just have no respect for the man. He treated everyone around him like crap, including players, employers, and even his own family. He's not someone I would emulate.
But Jethro a model husband and family man. Lol

Yea, there’s no underlying issues here with Jimmy.
Wow !!

I guess next you’ll be bashing Landry and that era to bolster Jethro era & Barry. Lol
 

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I'm not bitter. I just have no respect for the man. He treated everyone around him like crap, including players, employers, and even his own family. He's not someone I would emulate.
Not attempting further talk, but he left his players, wife, and the franchise that invested in him...all of them.
 

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For the record Jimmy told his wife that his priority was going to be the Cowboys. And was very generous in their divorce settlement.

He also regretted his ambition and devotion to his craft which separated him from his sons growing up which he later attempted to mend.

At least he was straight up with them instead of running around and cheating on her .

But instead we’ll celebrate our owner who obviously has had other affairs cheating on his wife . Not to mention harboring another illegitimate child paying off the mother to keep quiet.
 

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For the record Jimmy told his wife that his priority was going to be the Cowboys. And was very generous in their divorce settlement.

He also regretted his ambition and devotion to his craft which separated him from his sons growing up which he later attempted to mend.

At least he was straight up with them instead of running around and cheating on her .

But instead we’ll celebrate our owner who obviously has had other affairs cheating on his wife . Not to mention harboring another illegitimate child paying off the mother to keep quiet.
Now one is keeper of morales - side chosen...one is also implying it is right for any reason to abandon one's family. Jerry never did that and did what was court ordered, you have a problem?
 

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Now one is keeper of morales - side chosen...one is also implying it is right for any reason to abandon one's family. Jerry never did that and did what was court ordered, you have a problem?
You’re defending Jethro’s infidelity. He’s never denied it. Lol
 

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It befuddles me that many fans consider Trent Dilfer a bus driver but want to give Barry Switzer credit for piloting a Greyhound. :rolleyes:
Post that statement: prove the implication.
 

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The Cowboys have had 4 legitimate head coaches in the Jerry Jones era.

Jimmy Johnson - was a master talent evaluator and motivator. But he was and is an awful person, who selfishly turned his back on Cowboys fans and his own players, and manipulated Jerry into letting him out of his contract, and paying him to leave. I would never want to spend any personal time with the SOB, but he was a genius coach, and he rightfully gets credit for building the team that dominated the mid-90's. But that was BEFORE the salary CAP era. Even Jimmy, with all his genius, wasn't able to build a championship roster in Miami after the Salary CAP was implemented.

Barry Switzer - Fans don't give enough credit to Barry Switzer. He knew he was stepping into a rat's nest, but also a very talented team. Having coached both Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson when they played at Arkansas, he verbally chastised both of them for screwing up what they had in Dallas. Nevertheless, he was egoless enough to let the team that Jimmy built move forward on inertia. Fans like to blame him for missing the Super Bowl after the 1994 season, but the fault for that failure rests squarely on the shoulders of Troy Aikman, who threw 3 interceptions in the first 5 minutes of the NFC Championship game in January of 1995, putting the Cowboys in a 17-0 hole to the 49ers that they just couldn't dig out of. It wasn't a failure of coaching. It was a failure of execution by the on-field leader of the team.

Complaints about Barry's lack of discipline don't hold water with me. The players were already chafing under the rigid discipline of Jimmy Johnson, and needed a lighter touch. Even though Aikman still complains to this day about the lack of discipline under Switzer, is there anyone who really believes that Aikman would have put up with a strong-armed coach after Jimmy left? Well, after Barry left, the Cowboys did hire another strong armed coach in Chan Gailey, and Aikman was front and center in running him out of town, even though Gailey got the Cowboys to the playoffs in both seasons he was head coach. So, Aikman is just full of crap, and a complete hypocrite. If he wouldn't accept a more disciplinarian type coach after Jimmy left, why does he believe the other veteran players on the team would have put up with a more disciplinarian type style from Barry Switzer.

Barry had EXACTLY the right touch to milk two more very good seasons out of the team that Jimmy built. And after Jerry overpaid for ageing stars, and hired Larry Lacewell to lead the Scouting and Drafting department, Barry had no chance to rebuild the roster. The reality is Barry Switzer had already proved his bona fides, winning 3 NCAA football championships with Oklahoma. He didn't need to "prove" himself to anyone, and surely didn't need to impress Troy Aikman, Jerry Jones, or Jimmy Johnson. If anything, he was cleaning up the mess they all made. Switzer was the ideal replacement for Jimmy Johnson at the time, Despite was Jerry said, there were not 500 coaches who could have taken that team to the Super Bowl. There were over 500 coaches who could easily have screwed up the team in 1994 and 1995. Barry was smart enough not to do that, and deftly allowed his veteran players to lead the team, making corrections with only the lightest of touches - which is EXACTLY what was needed in the two seasons after Jimmy left.

Bill Parcells - Bill Parcells was a great coach, and knew how to build a winner. Ironically, he learned a lot from the example and advice of Tom Landry early in his career, and he always gave Landry due credit. Over 4 seasons from 2003 - 2006, he built a championship caliber team. In 2007, I believe a Bill Parcells coached team would have made it to the Super Bowl to challenge the Patriots. But Bill was old, and ran out of gas. He walked away a year to soon for the Cowboys. But if he was truly spent, another season might have put him in the ground. So, it is forgivable, though unfortunate, that he walked away too soon.

Mike McCarthy - Mike McCarthy led the Packers to 4 NFC Championship games, and 1 Super Bowl win in 13 seasons with the Packers. He was consistently a winner, and despite the falling out with prima donna Aaron Rodger (who by the way hasn't been back to a Super Bowl without McCarthy), he was and is a much better coach than he has been given credit for being. Two consecutive 12-win seasons under McCarthy shows that he still knows how to win. Like Jimmy Johnson ditched OC Mike Shula after the 1990 season, McCarthy ditched DC Mike Nolan after the 2020 season 30 years later. If you want to blame McCarthy for hiring Nolan in the first place, then you also have to blame Johnson for hiring Shula. With Mike back to calling play in 2023, he is back in his element, and has full control over the reins of the Cowboys team. He is the first coach since Barry Switzer to get the Cowboys to win 12 games and go to the playoffs in back-to-back seasons. Despite the national media hyenas, there is no good reason to believe McCarthy is on the hot seat in Dallas. Dallas is on an upward trend since they finally got another legitimate NFL head coach.
Parcells was washed up and outdated when he got here. He didnt build diddly.
 

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No implication. Just an observation from various conversations.
But I don't keep everyone's conversation in a computer file waiting to retrieve it when the topic arises.
If you think I'm making it up, so be it.
I can not be a judge then...
 

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“Fans like to blame him for missing the Super Bowl after the 1994 season, but the fault for that failure rests squarely on the shoulders of Troy Aikman, who threw 3 interceptions in the first 5 minutes of the NFC Championship game in January of 1995, putting the Cowboys in a 17-0 hole to the 49ers that they just couldn't dig out of.”

This is such a click bait post with so many inaccuracies. 1) troy did not throw 3 interceptions in the first 5 minutes.2) Williams ran a poor route per Irvin and Irvin got fed the rest of the game. 2) Irvin was ruled to have been stripped which was a questionable call.4) Willaims fumbled a kickoff. Willaims cost us that game with 2 turn overs early in the game, not hall of famer troy Aikman. Switzer also tangled with a ref later and hurt the comeback. Troy was the solution to a dynasty, not the problem. 5) finally, the early score was 21-0, not 17-0. So to recap, troy = dynasty qb, Williams had 2 turn overs and switzer hurt the comeback. I will not even comment on the other inaccurate takes like Jimmy Johnson and what you called him. Good grief. I can’t believe people are not banned for posts like this. I thought this was a family siTroy was no solution. Amd when we needed troy for the big comeback against the niners he couldn't domit.
At least as good as was Jimmy in Miami, if that is your view.
I hated the parcells era. It was doomed from the start.

parcells was toast. He was better at building than he was at coaching while he was here.
 

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:laugh:Barry Switzer was not a legitimate head coach. They won in spite of him, not because of him. He went 6-10 on a team with 6 HOFers.

McCarthy has been a legit HC. The fact he was forced to keep someone else's offense shows he was nothing more than a puppet collecting a paycheck.
 

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I'm not bitter. I just have no respect for the man. He treated everyone around him like crap, including players, employers, and even his own family. He's not someone I would emulate.
Most NFL players and coaches are not someone I'd emulate.
 
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