CFZ Cowboys attempting a Reset

[Creeper]

Maybe they are resetting. But why not extend CeeDee, or Micah?

 

[Coogiguy03]

Maybe they are resetting. But why not extend CeeDee, or Micah?

don't start making people happy in here!! lol

 

[PAPPYDOG]

The initial team foundation was put in place by Gil Brandt, Tom Landry and Tex Schramm in the early 1960's. The teams put together formulated the beginnings of what became America's Team. But all teams have a natural life span.

RESET #1 - In the early 70's the Cowboys were coming off of some really good late 60's teams, and two consecutive Super Bowl appearances in SB V and SB VI. In 1975, the Cowboys had the dirty dozen draft. But they also drafted Harvey Martin in 1973, and Too Tall Jones in 1974. Mr. Cowboys Bob Lilly retired, and former 5th overall 1st round pick QB Craig Morton was traded away. The Cowboys were successful in their reset, going to 3 of the next 4 Super Bowls in 1975, 1977 and 1978.

RESET #2 - In the early 80's, the Cowboys had another batch of players retire, but their reset attempt failed, resulting in the worst stretch of performance in Tom Landry's coaching career from 1986 - 1988. That ushered in the Jimmy Johnson era, and brought us Jerry Jones as a new owner.

RESET #3 - Jimmy Johnson jettisoned older players in the early 90's and drafted a whole bunch of new players, letting the young guys play. We don't even remember all the bad players Jimmy Johnson drafted and traded for because his reset was successful, resulting in 3 more Super Bowl appearances after the 1992, 1993, and 1995 seasons.

RESET #4 - In 2003, Jerry hired Bill Parcells, who ushered HOF players like Emmitt Smith and Larry Allen to the door, and drafted a bunch of younger players. He reset the core of the team on both offense and defense, and from 2006 - 2009, the Cowboys had a pretty good team. But this particular core of players failed to reach their potential when Bill Parcells retired too early, and Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett were unable to coach them into Super Bowl opportunities.

RESET #5 - After the disastrous 2010 season, Wade Phillips was fired, and Jerry promoted Garrett to be his "Tom Landry." Garrett immediately set about resetting the offense by spending 3 of his first 4 1st round picks on Offensive linemen. This set up the Cowboys for success for offensive success for the next decade, but Garrett never solved the problem on defense, and the Cowboys reset failed for the 3rd time in 5 tries.

RESET #6 - This is what the Cowboys are attempting right now, by allowing older players to leave. Having come off 3 consecutive 12 win seasons, older players have run out the string from the last unsuccessful reset from the mid-2010's. They have to get younger, and hope their recent draft classes start to produce more. 2020 and 2022 were a stellar draft classes, but 2021 and 2023 haven't done as well. And the jury hasn't even been selected for the 2024 class.

The reality is that we can only hope that this RESET #6 will be as successful as the initial team, and RESETs #1 & #3, and not failures like RESETs #2, #4, & #5. This coming team, after RESET #6, will be iteration #7 of the Cowboys.

• Iteration #1 was the first successful team resulting in two NFL championship game appearances, and two Super Bowl appearances.
• Iteration #2 was after RESET #1, and resulted in 3 more Super Bowl appearances.
• Iteration #3 failed in the 1980's
• Iteration #4 was after RESET #3, and brought 3 more Super Bowl appearances
• Iterations #5 & 6 failed in this century, just as #3 failed in the 1980's

Let's hope iteration #7 gives the fans more to cheer for.

The Jones boys are clearing house from the old and failed ones to the young and cap cheap.
I wouldn't be surprised if CD is traded at some point as he is NOT worth Hill and Jefferson type $.
The "New" Cowboys will be kicking in 2025.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'm hesitant to call it a reset for the reason you mentioned of them not moving anyone to load up on picks, but I will say that they have certainly positioned themselves for a reset in 2025 if they wanted to go that route. Major players not under contract, free agents all on 1 year deals, coaching staff all on 1 year deals.

Honestly I'm not even sure if the Jones boys actually know what the plan is yet.

My theory is it’s exactly what you said. They don’t know. In a perfect world they make it to a conference championship and the decision gets made easier for them.

But they do have the option to start a rest next season if things go bad. And some are fine with this.

But I think it’s a mistake. You need to be proactive in this league. You make the decision don’t let the decision make you. If the plan is to reset they should be taking those steps now. But instead they are waiting. Just not smart.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Maybe they are resetting. But why not extend CeeDee, or Micah?

They seem to want to wait until the last minute and sign them. I don’t get it or understand it but it’s the approach they are taking.

 

[Jumbo075]

Reset, reload, retool, rebuild, or soft rebuild In this case. No matter what one calls it, They did not do much of anything toward doing any of those.

They pretty much did nothing, but drafted what looks to be a decent draft toward that along with counting heavily on that draft and 2nd and 3rd year players.

Maybe call it recalculated the current situation. We will see if the added correctly or failed the math test.

They did nothing...unless you count their past few draft classes when they drafted replacements for the guys they let walk this offseason. But apparently, you want free agents to be signed, instead of relying on draft picks. I understand the frustration. But I'm not against making the young players step up.

 

[Praxit]

.....reset? ...dont know about that.

With brutal schedule on horizon, and all new faces.

Getting into playoffs for the 4th time straight. Would be nice comeback, after horrible exit again.

 

[jazzcat22]

They did nothing...unless you count their past few draft classes when they drafted replacements for the guys they let walk this offseason. But apparently, you want free agents to be signed, instead of relying on draft picks. I understand the frustration. But I'm not against making the young players step up.

Actually I am ok with the lack of signing FA players for this year. Yes a few more should have been brought in. But I am not going to complain about it. I am for building through the draft.

I was just stating the lack of it this year being less than usual does not mean it is a reset. As they are relying upon the youth.

 

[Jumbo075]

Actually I am ok with the lack of signing FA players for this year. Yes a few more should have been brought in. But I am not going to complain about it. I am for building through the draft.

I was just stating the lack of it this year being less than usual does not mean it is a reset. As they are relying upon the youth.

The Cowboys of the 70's did a reset without a full roster purge. For example, Roger Staubach remained on the team. The 90's reset was a full purge.

The Patriots successfully did two resets of their roster while Tom Brady was their QB. They had their early 2000's team, then the team that went to the Super Bowl in 2007 and 2011, then did a second reset, and went to 4 of 5 Super Bowls from 2016 - 2020. Those were 3 different Patriot teams even if Brady was the QB for all 3 teams.

I think the Cowboys are trying to do that, resetting most of the roster, but keeping Prescott. Trey Lance is a backup plan, in case they don't work it out with Prescott - who can probably play another 8-10 years.

 

[fivetwos]

The initial team foundation was put in place by Gil Brandt, Tom Landry and Tex Schramm in the early 1960's. The teams put together formulated the beginnings of what became America's Team. But all teams have a natural life span.

RESET #1 - In the early 70's the Cowboys were coming off of some really good late 60's teams, and two consecutive Super Bowl appearances in SB V and SB VI. In 1975, the Cowboys had the dirty dozen draft. But they also drafted Harvey Martin in 1973, and Too Tall Jones in 1974. Mr. Cowboys Bob Lilly retired, and former 5th overall 1st round pick QB Craig Morton was traded away. The Cowboys were successful in their reset, going to 3 of the next 4 Super Bowls in 1975, 1977 and 1978.

RESET #2 - In the early 80's, the Cowboys had another batch of players retire, but their reset attempt failed, resulting in the worst stretch of performance in Tom Landry's coaching career from 1986 - 1988. That ushered in the Jimmy Johnson era, and brought us Jerry Jones as a new owner.

RESET #3 - Jimmy Johnson jettisoned older players in the early 90's and drafted a whole bunch of new players, letting the young guys play. We don't even remember all the bad players Jimmy Johnson drafted and traded for because his reset was successful, resulting in 3 more Super Bowl appearances after the 1992, 1993, and 1995 seasons.

RESET #4 - In 2003, Jerry hired Bill Parcells, who ushered HOF players like Emmitt Smith and Larry Allen to the door, and drafted a bunch of younger players. He reset the core of the team on both offense and defense, and from 2006 - 2009, the Cowboys had a pretty good team. But this particular core of players failed to reach their potential when Bill Parcells retired too early, and Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett were unable to coach them into Super Bowl opportunities.

RESET #5 - After the disastrous 2010 season, Wade Phillips was fired, and Jerry promoted Garrett to be his "Tom Landry." Garrett immediately set about resetting the offense by spending 3 of his first 4 1st round picks on Offensive linemen. This set up the Cowboys for success for offensive success for the next decade, but Garrett never solved the problem on defense, and the Cowboys reset failed for the 3rd time in 5 tries.

RESET #6 - This is what the Cowboys are attempting right now, by allowing older players to leave. Having come off 3 consecutive 12 win seasons, older players have run out the string from the last unsuccessful reset from the mid-2010's. They have to get younger, and hope their recent draft classes start to produce more. 2020 and 2022 were a stellar draft classes, but 2021 and 2023 haven't done as well. And the jury hasn't even been selected for the 2024 class.

The reality is that we can only hope that this RESET #6 will be as successful as the initial team, and RESETs #1 & #3, and not failures like RESETs #2, #4, & #5. This coming team, after RESET #6, will be iteration #7 of the Cowboys.

• Iteration #1 was the first successful team resulting in two NFL championship game appearances, and two Super Bowl appearances.
• Iteration #2 was after RESET #1, and resulted in 3 more Super Bowl appearances.
• Iteration #3 failed in the 1980's
• Iteration #4 was after RESET #3, and brought 3 more Super Bowl appearances
• Iterations #5 & 6 failed in this century, just as #3 failed in the 1980's

Let's hope iteration #7 gives the fans more to cheer for.

Can’t disagree with the premise. Personally I fully understand that a period of success must be followed by a down period by nature. You can’t ‘win every year’ within the system as is. Just not possible…..

You draft later, can’t keep every good player per cap, people bringing A game at you, tougher schedule, etc….it happens.

My problem is they couldn’t realize the uptick was in the last few years when a top free agent or two may have meant even more dead money right now, but a better chance to have advanced further since MM took over.

They had to reset about now anyway and should have made a better effort in recent years. Problem is it rarely makes financial sense to use free agency instead of the draft, and the kid wants to be fiscally responsible. Great…but you get what you pay for, especially when immediate help is needed.

I have little faith that they understand the windows within which to win concept, quite ironically the by-product of the one that Jerry was quite instrumental in negotiating and developing. He is 82 and the kid runs things. I’d love to be happier.

 

[blueblood70]

The initial team foundation was put in place by Gil Brandt, Tom Landry and Tex Schramm in the early 1960's. The teams put together formulated the beginnings of what became America's Team. But all teams have a natural life span.

RESET #1 - In the early 70's the Cowboys were coming off of some really good late 60's teams, and two consecutive Super Bowl appearances in SB V and SB VI. In 1975, the Cowboys had the dirty dozen draft. But they also drafted Harvey Martin in 1973, and Too Tall Jones in 1974. Mr. Cowboys Bob Lilly retired, and former 5th overall 1st round pick QB Craig Morton was traded away. The Cowboys were successful in their reset, going to 3 of the next 4 Super Bowls in 1975, 1977 and 1978.

RESET #2 - In the early 80's, the Cowboys had another batch of players retire, but their reset attempt failed, resulting in the worst stretch of performance in Tom Landry's coaching career from 1986 - 1988. That ushered in the Jimmy Johnson era, and brought us Jerry Jones as a new owner.

RESET #3 - Jimmy Johnson jettisoned older players in the early 90's and drafted a whole bunch of new players, letting the young guys play. We don't even remember all the bad players Jimmy Johnson drafted and traded for because his reset was successful, resulting in 3 more Super Bowl appearances after the 1992, 1993, and 1995 seasons.

RESET #4 - In 2003, Jerry hired Bill Parcells, who ushered HOF players like Emmitt Smith and Larry Allen to the door, and drafted a bunch of younger players. He reset the core of the team on both offense and defense, and from 2006 - 2009, the Cowboys had a pretty good team. But this particular core of players failed to reach their potential when Bill Parcells retired too early, and Wade Phillips and Jason Garrett were unable to coach them into Super Bowl opportunities.

RESET #5 - After the disastrous 2010 season, Wade Phillips was fired, and Jerry promoted Garrett to be his "Tom Landry." Garrett immediately set about resetting the offense by spending 3 of his first 4 1st round picks on Offensive linemen. This set up the Cowboys for success for offensive success for the next decade, but Garrett never solved the problem on defense, and the Cowboys reset failed for the 3rd time in 5 tries.

RESET #6 - This is what the Cowboys are attempting right now, by allowing older players to leave. Having come off 3 consecutive 12 win seasons, older players have run out the string from the last unsuccessful reset from the mid-2010's. They have to get younger, and hope their recent draft classes start to produce more. 2020 and 2022 were a stellar draft classes, but 2021 and 2023 haven't done as well. And the jury hasn't even been selected for the 2024 class.

The reality is that we can only hope that this RESET #6 will be as successful as the initial team, and RESETs #1 & #3, and not failures like RESETs #2, #4, & #5. This coming team, after RESET #6, will be iteration #7 of the Cowboys.

• Iteration #1 was the first successful team resulting in two NFL championship game appearances, and two Super Bowl appearances.
• Iteration #2 was after RESET #1, and resulted in 3 more Super Bowl appearances.
• Iteration #3 failed in the 1980's
• Iteration #4 was after RESET #3, and brought 3 more Super Bowl appearances
• Iterations #5 & 6 failed in this century, just as #3 failed in the 1980's

Let's hope iteration #7 gives the fans more to cheer for.

I can live with most of what you said there but you do realize that Cowboys were one of the youngest teams in the NFL last year your little reset isn't how the Cowboys typically do things it's a slow gradual thing yearly as players need to be replaced they're replaced it's not a big obvious bunch of moves at the same time it already started the last couple of years look at the offensive line Tyler Smith and now we drafted the last two to three seasons other offensive lineman that are gonna step up I mean I remember a time where they needed all safeties and now we have a pretty good safety room this reset stuff is an opinion of yours I don't think it's as glaring or obvious it's slow it's not much different than most teams do but you're right things have changed since 2016 I never sent zeke and a bunch of the players from that small reset are leaving whether it's over money or age or hell they're all the above they're slowly replacing them with quality players in my opinion...

So this whole reset seven and eight and whatever else you're trying to guess it's already been happening the last three years...

 

[blueblood70]

Actually I am ok with the lack of signing FA players for this year. Yes a few more should have been brought in. But I am not going to complain about it. I am for building through the draft.

I was just stating the lack of it this year being less than usual does not mean it is a reset. As they are relying upon the youth.

It's not what I call a reset you're right I already wrote that before I read this usually teams are replacing about 15 to 20% of their players yearly as you either change coaches or guys get up in age have health issues it's a gradual and not obvious reset yearly the Cowboys have rarely blew it all up and start over and that's not a reset that's a reboot...

I've already seen lots of changes over the last three seasons in this team younger players are coming due for new contracts they're starting to peak the older aging ones whether it was health or money are slowly dropping off the team but I see that the players are here to replace them in my opinion so none of this is what I consider a reboot or a reset it's a natural process for every team.

However,
if Prescott ends up not back on this team there may be a real reboot coming because when you gotta look for a new quarterback that's when it starts and you may end up getting rid of guys like Micah Parsons and Trayvon diggs and CD Lam for as many draft picks as you can get and then you allow Martin and tank to walk and then you have what one would call a reboot natural when you lose your starting franchise quarterback and you don't like the word franchise quarterback I don't care I know I'm not talking to you but anybody else who reads this yes the guys gonna play close to a decade for us and not have a losing season break a whole bunch of records yeah he's a franchise quarterback...

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

 

[youngjerryjones]

This isn’t a reset. If it was a reset they would be training their talent to get future picks.

How can you preach reset coming from
The last 3 drafts they’ve had? Maybe it is a reset and they just suck at it.

This is a reset - it's telling Dak to prove it or walk

 

[youngjerryjones]

It's not what I call a reset you're right I already wrote that before I read this usually teams are replacing about 15 to 20% of their players yearly as you either change coaches or guys get up in age have health issues it's a gradual and not obvious reset yearly the Cowboys have rarely blew it all up and start over and that's not a reset that's a reboot...

I've already seen lots of changes over the last three seasons in this team younger players are coming due for new contracts they're starting to peak the older aging ones whether it was health or money are slowly dropping off the team but I see that the players are here to replace them in my opinion so none of this is what I consider a reboot or a reset it's a natural process for every team.

However,
if Prescott ends up not back on this team there may be a real reboot coming because when you gotta look for a new quarterback that's when it starts and you may end up getting rid of guys like Micah Parsons and Trayvon diggs and CD Lam for as many draft picks as you can get and then you allow Martin and tank to walk and then you have what one would call a reboot natural when you lose your starting franchise quarterback and you don't like the word franchise quarterback I don't care I know I'm not talking to you but anybody else who reads this yes the guys gonna play close to a decade for us and not have a losing season break a whole bunch of records yeah he's a franchise quarterback...

thank you for using spaces. i love your posts but it is tough to read someone all in one block

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is a reset - it's telling Dak to prove it or walk

That’s not a reset. That’s doing what they’ve done the past 20 years…..

 

[DandyDon52]

it may or may not be a reset.
The only good ones were done by landry and schram, and JJohnson.

Now we have the jones boys and no one knows what they are doing, or will do.
If it is a reset they should trade lamb and dak. Maybe parsons. get picks.
go with a young team with no big contracts

 

[Cowfan75Lives]

The Jones do not have plans.

They have their pride and they have vendettas.

Exactly. For the love of God, Jerry would waste an entire season just so he doesn't have to pay "dead coach money". The most valuable franchise...with owners who clip coupons and won't bring in vets for 3 mil.

 

[MikeT22]

. But apparently, you want free agents to be signed, instead of relying on draft picks. I understand the frustration. But I'm not against making the young players step up.

Having young players step up through competition would be great.
But what we are doing is just plugging in several players as starters just because we have no one else and they haven’t earned it.