Cowboys certainly getting younger fast...

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With Glover, Dat, Keyshawn & Campbell cut/leaving, you gotta think carefully before you can come up with any players 30 or older.

On offense, all that's left is Allen (35) and then we have Bledoe (33), Glenn (32) & Riveria (34).
On defense there's Singleton (32?) and Ellis (31), Ferguson (33?) & Aaron Glenn (33).
And who knows how long Allen & Singleton will be around. Of course we might add older FAs (maybe Fabini if money/physical okay) or even McGinest, Sowell or Marcus Coleman. But still, remember last year so many people complained about Cowboys being so old. Now we down to 8 (and I wouldn't bank on Allen or Singleton).
 

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And with the Draft coming - we move down another step if they get an immediate starter.
 

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I think you've probably gotten to the center of what has been a puzzling off season. The Cowboys seemed to have run out of gas around Thanksgiving last year, and while some of that certainly was attributable to injuries, there were games in which they didn't display as much energy as you would expect. Dead legs? Maybe. Certainly, based on Parcells' statements about "liking this team," it doesn't appear that he sensed much dog in them.

Parcells' pattern has been to use veteran talent in a "stop gap" fashion while he builds a younger roster. Maybe that's what we're seeing here. At some point, if you’re going to get younger, you have to get younger. You have to jettison some of the older guys and replace them with youth. And it’s probably not practical to do it all with the draft. Generally, the Cowboys have drafted well in the Parcells era, but there have been some misses. There will be some misses. Every team misses on some picks.

In order to truly go younger, a team needs to supplement the talent it gets from the draft with some younger free agents and “original” free agents from the college ranks. It also needs to hit from time to time on a gem that another team misjudged, or maybe a late bloomer. In order to give itself an opportunity to churn up some of that talent, a team has to take a risk, now and then, create roster space and create competitive opportunities.

But there is a risk. Maybe a couple of the young wide receivers will develop beyond our expectations. Maybe they won’t. Maybe a third round draft pick will become an all pro. Maybe not. One can argue that it will never happen unless opportunities are created.

Of course, the conundrum lies in the fact that the NFL is a “win now” league, both in desire and in opportunity. Push a few correct buttons in a watered down league, and you can get to the top very quickly. So the temptation is great to fill every position with proven talent, a path teams like the Commanders have chosen. Unproven talent might prove to be “no talent.” Fans are impatient, and understandably so.

I think (hope, maybe?) that the Cowboys are now attempting to play to Parcells’ strength. He is a shrewd judge of talent and has a proven track record of getting the most from average to above average players’ abilities. But I’d be surprised if they didn’t continue to hedge their bets by spending money necessary to fill those holes that just don’t get properly addressed with youth.

I don’t believe that Jerry Jones has gone “cheap.” I don’t expect the Cowboys to ignore their available cap space. I’m hoping instead that they are merely being patient, attempting first to uncover young talent for as many positions as possible, while being prepared to turn to other options if the first avenue fails.

We fans have to hope that young guys like Spears, Canty, Ware, James, Crayton and Julius Jones take another step forward, that relatively young veterans like Roy Williams, Terrence Newman, Jason Witten and Anthony Henry become leaders as well as improved players. And we have to hope that a couple of “busts” – guys like Gurode, Al Johnson, Kevin Burnett – turn things around.

Finally, it would help if the Cowboys added two or three more starters and two or three more contributors in this year’s draft. Maybe that’s part of the reason Dallas is being slow to move in free agency. Maybe they’d still like to add a couple or three more picks and want to have enough money to fund it, along with locking up some of their own young talent under term deals.

Or maybe they’ll go sign a bunch of old guys during the next month…
 

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Ferguson might've been a worse FA pickup than Rivera. I thought his job was to clog the middle, and stuff the run. If I remember correctly when he was in the line-up teams would pound the ball between the tackles all day. Glover seemed to be a better NT even in the 3-4 than Fergy was.
 

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free agency is to fill holes for the short-term, the draft is there to develop players to replace older veterans, and, yep, the free agents you signed a couple/few years back, that's why I think the way the Skins go about building their team, free agents, sacrificing youth (draft picks), is a bad situation, that means you have to keep on signing players in free agency because you dont' have any youngsters of your own developing and filling holes when contracts expire, and they can't pay their own free agents in order to retain them, we're playing the game smartly...
 

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GoinForSix said:
Ferguson might've been a worse FA pickup than Rivera. I thought his job was to clog the middle, and stuff the run. If I remember correctly when he was in the line-up teams would pound the ball between the tackles all day. Glover seemed to be a better NT even in the 3-4 than Fergy was.

our lb corp was a weakness for us, in order to stop the run in a 3-4, your lbs need to be able to make plays, it's as much fault as our lbs for an inability to stop the run as it's Ferguson's, it's not fair to place all the blame on him, and remember, Glover rotated with him too, but I don't think ferg was all that bad
 

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summerisfunner said:
our lb corp was a weakness for us, in order to stop the run in a 3-4, your lbs need to be able to make plays, it's as much fault as our lbs for an inability to stop the run as it's Ferguson's, it's not fair to place all the blame on him, and remember, Glover rotated with him too, but I don't think ferg was all that bad

But for that kinda money though? A multi mil dollar deal for a 3-4 NT? C'mon....
 

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sago1 said:
With Glover, Dat, Keyshawn & Campbell cut/leaving, you gotta think carefully before you can come up with any players 30 or older.

On offense, all that's left is Allen (35) and then we have Bledoe (33), Glenn (32) & Riveria (34).
On defense there's Singleton (32?) and Ellis (31), Ferguson (33?) & Aaron Glenn (33).
And who knows how long Allen & Singleton will be around. Of course we might add older FAs (maybe Fabini if money/physical okay) or even McGinest, Sowell or Marcus Coleman. But still, remember last year so many people complained about Cowboys being so old. Now we down to 8 (and I wouldn't bank on Allen or Singleton).

So, 4 out of the 6 best Cowboys on offense are over 30? (Witten and Jones are under)

Title of thread should be: Defense younger now
 

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SkinsFan26 said:
So, 4 out of the 6 best Cowboys on offense are over 30? (Witten and Jones are under)

Title of thread should be: Defense younger now

Julius Jones, Marion Barber, Jason Witten, Patrick Crayton, Rob P, Flozel Adams, Andre Gurode. All are under 30. So we're a lot younger than it may seem.
 

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So all 3 FA signings last year got injured? Cowboy luck I tell ya.
 

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GoinForSix said:
Julius Jones, Marion Barber, Jason Witten, Patrick Crayton, Rob P, Flozel Adams, Andre Gurode. All are under 30. So we're a lot younger than it may seem.

Yes, but 4 of the 6 best players IMO are over 30.
 

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First of all, I don't mean to imply that this thread is necessarily about this, but it does touch on a different subject.

I have heard over and over again that Parcells is only interested in bringing in all of these old, friends of Bill types. The implication has been that Bill didn't care anything about the future, and the franchise would suffer because of it.

It seems to me that has never been the case. Despite his desire to win now, Bill has always been a builder of teams. When he leaves, the teams he leaves behind are always left in great shape.

This team is getting younger, and it was already pretty young. But I love the mix. I think we have the makings of a team that can be good for a long time.
 

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Our foundation is getting younger... You build an solid ball club with the O-Line and Defensive Front 7. You add skill players through free agency. After each season there will be premier QBs, RBs, and WRs available.
 

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We're learning our lesson from years past. We're not allowing aging veterans hold us hostage.

We tried to hold on too long with Troy, Michael, and Emmitt ... the same reason Landry and Chuck Noll failed. Trying to hold onto the vets alittle too long.

I like what we're doing. We have no choice but to jettison the old guard.

But the key is to have replacements ready to stand up behind them. Do we have that in place?

I applaud management for taking a stand and not giving in to the "let's get one more year out of him" crowd.
 
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