Cowboys Defense vs Championship 3-4 Defense

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The exercise below was taking a look at the 2011 Cowboys defense and seeing where they compared to the last two 3-4 defensive units that won the Super Bowl, the 2010 Packers and 2008 Steelers. Below is a look at how the pass defense performed in comparison both in terms of pressure as well as in coverage


While on a game to game basis sacks may be an overrated statistic I do feel like it is a good measure for how much pressure a defense is bringing over the course a year. Here is a look at how the 3 units performed by player and by positional group.

http://img13.*************/img13/3707/passrush.png

Quick Thoughts:
-While I'd love to see Spencer as a double-digit sack threat the edge rushers really aren't the problem. Not saying this means they need to re-sign Spencer as they can get the production they need from that spot without spending huge dollars, but I also don't think his sack numbers this year were a severe underachievement either.
-Jason Hatcher is sufficient as the number one 3-4 DE, but he needs to be paired with another 1A there. The next best end after Hatcher can't be a one sack player, he needs to be an equal as a pass rusher. Maybe that's Ratliff, maybe it isn't.
-We need to get pressure from our inside linebackers. Hopefully in going more athletic at the position in the 2012 defense there is at least a threat there, and given that the spot wasn't a lockdown coverage spot either Carter can only be an improvement.
-We're okay at the nose tackle, but given the expectations as it relates to Ratliff's contract we should be getting more out of the spot.
-Secondary is fine from a pass rush perspective.

On to the coverage
http://img88.*************/img88/5438/secondary.png

Nothing to be happy about here. Mediocre across the board in areas that are clearly important to winning.
 
I am such a believer in inside pressure. I think Pierre Paul made the Giants so much more lethal because of all of the trouble he gives offenses right in the QB's face.

Since Ratliff fell off, and Bradie stopped getting there with blitzes, Dallas hasn't had that.
 
Very well done. BJ Raji's 6.5 sacks at nose is impressive. Another thing to consider is that our nose is best as a 1 gap player while the Pittsburgh nose is a 2 gap guy. Raji can do both but is primarily 2 gap on 1st down.
 
Now those are some kick *** stats ... thanks for the breakdown.

Really brings to light the DLine and ILB problems.
 
I honestly believe Ware could have a 25 sack season if we had a DL that could get some push. For every one of his sacks there's 2 plays where he beats he man outside only for the QB to step up in a clean pocket
 
a great read

i have never been a spencer supporter (to say the least) however, there are several threads in the last 24 hours, this one, the one by RobertX7 comparing combine numbers for spencer and available OLBs, and the brooks contract from niners, that argue against my position.

taking it all in, it seems the cowboys are best served to:

1) resign spencer to 5-6 year deal (to take OLB out of draft priority)
2) upgrade NT and DE (soliai/bryant/poe)
3) upgrade CB/FS (several options)
4) upgrade ILB (may already be here in Carter)

all this is clearly do-able this off season via FA and draft

it seems the biggest probloem with our defense has been the predictability

since there is little pressure from anyone not named ware, it is very easy to predict which way to roll protection

we need more pressure from DL and ILB and better coverage in secondary
 
Ren;4433858 said:
I honestly believe Ware could have a 25 sack season if we had a DL that could get some push. For every one of his sacks there's 2 plays where he beats he man outside only for the QB to step up in a clean pocket

this.......spencer fell victim to this also. If we can get a big DT that can push the pocket like Ngata does or vince wilfork than we can move rat to DE, all these moves should help get to the QB along with getting a corner in FA and having a safety back there that knows how to play safety.

After the combine I wonder what Poe could do for us? He is a freak of nature something like Ngata was when he came out. Yeah Poe didn't dominate the small school guys he played against but I think I heard a scout say that is because the team he played on was really terrible and Poe was basically the only player. But still that is a red flag to me. I would love to find some good game film on him.

than we might can get mike martin in the later rounds. He is freak at DT also but he was only 306lbs, but he is short and squatty like a NT should be at 6'1.

Than we have the other big NT Alameda Ta'amu,Washington who is 6'2 and 350lbs. This is the year we should draft a real NT. then go to camp and let the rook battle it out with Josh Brent.
 
ddh33;4433682 said:
I am such a believer in inside pressure. I think Pierre Paul made the Giants so much more lethal because of all of the trouble he gives offenses right in the QB's face.

Since Ratliff fell off, and Bradie stopped getting there with blitzes, Dallas hasn't had that.

Me too! Pressure inside forces the QB into the OLBs/DEs on the outside and creates a lot more sacks & turnovers. Both the Stealers & Packers get consistent inside pressure and force a lot of turnovers. Ware would easily set the sack record if we had a NT or ILBs putting regular pressure on the QB.
 
jblaze2004;4433902 said:
this.......spencer fell victim to this also. If we can get a big DT that can push the pocket like Ngata does or vince wilfork than we can move rat to DE, all these moves should help get to the QB along with getting a corner in FA and having a safety back there that knows how to play safety.

After the combine I wonder what Poe could do for us? He is a freak of nature something like Ngata was when he came out. Yeah Poe didn't dominate the small school guys he played against but I think I heard a scout say that is because the team he played on was really terrible and Poe was basically the only player. But still that is a red flag to me. I would love to find some good game film on him.

than we might can get mike martin in the later rounds. He is freak at DT also but he was only 306lbs, but he is short and squatty like a NT should be at 6'1.

Than we have the other big NT Alameda Ta'amu,Washington who is 6'2 and 350lbs. This is the year we should draft a real NT. then go to camp and let the rook battle it out with Josh Brent.

not Ta'amu

if we dont take Poe, we should look for

Mike Martin
Hebron Fangupo
Chapman (NT Alabama)
 
There was no doubt that Cullen Jenkins was severely missed by the Green Bay defense.
 
Ren;4433858 said:
I honestly believe Ware could have a 25 sack season if we had a DL that could get some push. For every one of his sacks there's 2 plays where he beats he man outside only for the QB to step up in a clean pocket

look at the analysis again
we dont want ware getting 25
his 15-20 are phenomenal already

we need more from DE/ILB to make this defense more unpredictable

that is what we are missing, unpredictabilty not being even more predictable
 
dmq;4433911 said:
There was no doubt that Cullen Jenkins was severely missed by the Green Bay defense.

exactly , 2 guys that had "off" years without jenkins were mathews and woodson. everyone knows what happens up front affects the back 7 this is why we need to fix this d-line especially at NT enough is enough.
 
We sign Carriker or Bryant and draft one of Poe, Crick, Reyes, Fletcher Cox and the problem is a long way to being solved.


I firmly believe Carter will be a beast in the middle.
 
visionary;4433914 said:
look at the analysis again
we dont want ware getting 25
his 15-20 are phenomenal already

we need more from DE/ILB to make this defense more unpredictable

that is what we are missing, unpredictabilty not being even more predictable

Doesn't really mean you rush him more or that you're predictable, just that his success rate goes up when the QB doesn't have a clean pocket to step up inn and escape the outside pressure
 
Ren;4433944 said:
Doesn't really mean you rush him more or that you're predictable, just that his success rate goes up when the QB doesn't have a clean pocket to step up inn and escape the outside pressure

agree with this
 

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