Cowboys defensive stats from Sunday's game

JeffInDC

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I keep preaching this every year we have to start using a first round draft pick on a defensive lineman but we never do.

We continue to work around this problem with projects like Bohana and Ridgeway hoping to find the next j Ratliff

Instead we should be drafting a Bob Lilly or Randy White.

Also contributing to this problem is the fact that the offense could not sustain a drive because it continued to get a penalty here or there that it couldn't overcome Three and out does nothing to help your defense

You DO realize that almost ALL of Tampa's rushing yards came from runs off tackle and outside to the left, right? Their run game up the gut was handled well. Outside runs are NOT the fault of the 2 NT's you just mentioned (and, one didn't even play). The edge players are the ones responsible for that.
 

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LVE was all over the field, like his rookie season. Good to see.

LVE had a mixed night. He made a couple of good plays on some screens and short passes, but in the run game he was awful. In fact, all the Cowboys LBs were pretty horrible against the run. They seem to have difficulty recognizing the play and getting to the point of attack late. Even Parsons struggles with this. The difference is he has the speed to make up for slow recognition. LVE doesn't. And watching LVE get shoved around by blockers was embarrassing. A TE flattened him on one run play to the outside.

Fornette had 111 of his 27 yards to the right side of the Dallas defense. That's where you will see LVE lined up most of the time. I think teams will run in that direction because Dorance Armstrong sucks, and LVE is slow to see the play develop. It was only 1 game but he looked like the 2020 LVE to me.
 

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LVE had a mixed night. He made a couple of good plays on some screens and short passes, but in the run game he was awful. In fact, all the Cowboys LBs were pretty horrible against the run. They seem to have difficulty recognizing the play and getting to the point of attack late. Even Parsons struggles with this. The difference is he has the speed to make up for slow recognition. LVE doesn't. And watching LVE get shoved around by blockers was embarrassing. A TE flattened him on one run play to the outside.

Fornette had 111 of his 27 yards to the right side of the Dallas defense. That's where you will see LVE lined up most of the time. I think teams will run in that direction because Dorance Armstrong sucks, and LVE is slow to see the play develop. It was only 1 game but he looked like the 2020 LVE to me.
Do you mean 111 of his 127 was on that side? I was wondering what those numbers were because that was honestly the only part of our D that I thought was bad.

Well other than A Brown.
 
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LVE had a mixed night. He made a couple of good plays on some screens and short passes, but in the run game he was awful. In fact, all the Cowboys LBs were pretty horrible against the run. They seem to have difficulty recognizing the play and getting to the point of attack late. Even Parsons struggles with this. The difference is he has the speed to make up for slow recognition. LVE doesn't. And watching LVE get shoved around by blockers was embarrassing. A TE flattened him on one run play to the outside.

Fornette had 111 of his 27 yards to the right side of the Dallas defense. That's where you will see LVE lined up most of the time. I think teams will run in that direction because Dorance Armstrong sucks, and LVE is slow to see the play develop. It was only 1 game but he looked like the 2020 LVE to me.
Parsons was on the other side for most of the first half, wasn't he?
 

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Pretty piss poor to have a 2nd rounder at a position of need only take 6 snaps.
True, and Tolbert didn't make the game day active roster.

Spagnola and company did mention on their show that a lot of the WR's drafted between the 1-3 rounds didn't set the world on fire week 1, with most getting between 1-3 catches. I think London was one of the exceptions.
 
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You DO realize that almost ALL of Tampa's rushing yards came from runs off tackle and outside to the left, right? Their run game up the gut was handled well. Outside runs are NOT the fault of the 2 NT's you just mentioned (and, one didn't even play). The edge players are the ones responsible for that.
Watched game again and you are 100% right sorry but I'm still greedy and want us to use a first round draft pick on a defensive tackle I can't help myself
 

JeffInDC

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Watched game again and you are 100% right sorry but I'm still greedy and want us to use a first round draft pick on a defensive tackle I can't help myself
Oh, I’m with you on that. In fact, I want Quinn or whoever is the HC/DC this or next year to just go ahead and install some variety of the 3-4 do Micah can just do what he’s at. And, because of that, we need a stud or 2 DE/DT types (like Jalen Carter or Bryan Bresee) paired with a stud NT (like Siaki Ika from Baylor) to make it work. I’m definitely down with your logic…
 

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When Parsons got that sack I was hoping it would open the flood gates.. But no.

LVE looks good. Need to improve. Offense really needs to improve..
 

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Zero TFL. Too many tackles beyond LOS vs run.

I think it is unreasonable for us to expect that he would be a LB who would take the punishment to the opposing player, take on a blocker or fill a gap.

He is a softer version of Eugene Lockhart.
 

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So Tampa ran on us at will and decided on their own to stop at 19 points? Gotcha. Defense had nothing to do with it despite being on the field over n over.
Running the ball prolifically leads to lower scores. How do you not know this?
 

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With the inept offense we had, nothing more could be expected out of our D..Micah is a man of leaders and those who don't follow should see their time spent on the bench...
 

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I think it is unreasonable for us to expect that he would be a LB who would take the punishment to the opposing player, take on a blocker or fill a gap.

He is a softer version of Eugene Lockhart.
May be someone like Ray lewis or Ro Mcclain
 
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