Cowboys Lose Top Spot All Time Winning Percentage

erod

Well-Known Member
Messages
38,705
Reaction score
60,327
CowboysZone LOYAL Fan
But this happened on Garrett's Watch. He is the Head Coach. I do not remember the NFL keeping stats on Owners' Wins and Loses. The Head Coach normally gets to keep the Wins and Loses Stats under his tenure.

Actually, Garrett has never had a losing season. Check out the early 2000s.
 

PA Cowboy Fan

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,354
Reaction score
51,350
I dont want to agree with you. But. Those are facts and reality.

I really thought we had turned the corner last year. I really thought we had something......

I still have a glimmer of hope.....not for this year, but next. But. I dunno...My bet is we see more of what we have been seeing the last 21 years. 8-8 with no real shot at SB. One good year, then back to 8-8. Thats the Dallas Cowboys.....

I will say, I do beleive Jerry, when he says he wants to win more then anything. Problem is, he just cant. --- Its not easy.

I caught the Roger Staubach Football like on the NFL Network a few months ago. Those days were so good. And the guys, Pearson, Waters, Martin..... Landry. --- I was just a kid....but looking back, how great were those teams? How great was Tom Landry?

Those guys are the reason I became a Cowboy fan. It was a great time.
 

Tommy

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,221
Reaction score
2,982
We don't deserve any recognition as a top NFL franchise the way we have played the
last 21 years. We play small ball, trying not to lose, football and we find lot's of ways
to lose games. That's what losing franchises tend to do year in and year out. With
this ownership and coaching staff, I don't see things improving much in the coming
decade.

Hey! I have an idea! Let's hijack this thread and turn it into a cry fest like all the others.
 

perrykemp

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,503
Reaction score
9,274
On related note, it's highly likely that this weekend Russell Wilson will bump Tony Romo from the #2 spot for all time NFL QB rating (Rodgers is #1)

Wilson has a 98.0 career rating on 1486 attempts. Romo has a 97.6 career QB rating.

When Wilson hits 1500 attempts this weekend (barring injury or a really odd game) the NFL will begin including him in the all time ratings.
 

Iron_Man

KevinU
Messages
750
Reaction score
364
First time I've ever seen the complete list. The thing that strikes me first is, how are the Brows in the top half of the list? When were they ever good for a long time?

Browns would have a better winning percentage if you include the Raven's record. They are the real browns anyway.
 

camelboy

mgcowboy
Messages
4,663
Reaction score
2,817
It's amazing how successful this organization was that it took 20 years of mediocrity to wipe "some" records not all .. they still hold ALOT of records .. .WOW

Good job Jerry ... keep on :rolleyes:

:cool:
 

MagicMan

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,513
Reaction score
836
Exactly, makes you realize the excellence and consistency of the 70's, 80's and 90's teams when you can screw up the last 20 years and still had that record. Same with SB appearances.

I think I need another drink......:mad::facepalm:
 

plasticman

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,606
Reaction score
17,737
Actually, it was Jason that got us back to the top.

Lol, what Red Jesus giveth, he taketh away.

Seriously, we'll get back there.

Why does Jason Garrett not get the credit for drafting when they wolin but the blame for no offensive depth when they lose?

The Cowboys are a young rebuilt team that still needs some prices and their depth was exposed with the worst possible luck.

They lost last season's leading rusher through free agency, then the leading passer And the leading scoring receiver.

Who do you point the finger at for that?

But what stands out to me is that the best winning percentage for a franchise is 57.3%.

That's an average season of 9.16 wins. That's how difficult it is to win in this league....historically.

So for us to lose those kind of guys, with additional injuries and suspensions, what has happened isbexactly what's supposed to happen and you would have to be a legendary dynasty to sustain those losses and keep winning on a consistant basis.

With free agency and salary caps, those teams just don't exist any more.
 

visionary

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,445
Reaction score
33,407
We don't deserve any recognition as a top NFL franchise the way we have played the
last 21 years. We play small ball, trying not to lose, football and we find lot's of ways
to lose games. That's what losing franchises tend to do year in and year out. With
this ownership and coaching staff, I don't see things improving much in the coming
decade.

This is just one more hit
How many "all time worst" records have we set under Garrett
This is WITH a gift franchise QB
 

visionary

Well-Known Member
Messages
28,445
Reaction score
33,407
Actually, it was Jason that got us back to the top.

Lol, what Red Jesus giveth, he taketh away.

Seriously, we'll get back there.

Why does Jason Garrett not get the credit for drafting when they wolin but the blame for no offensive depth when they lose?

The Cowboys are a young rebuilt team that still needs some prices and their depth was exposed with the worst possible luck.

They lost last season's leading rusher through free agency, then the leading passer And the leading scoring receiver.

Who do you point the finger at for that?

But what stands out to me is that the best winning percentage for a franchise is 57.3%.

That's an average season of 9.16 wins. That's how difficult it is to win in this league....historically.

So for us to lose those kind of guys, with additional injuries and suspensions, what has happened isbexactly what's supposed to happen and you would have to be a legendary dynasty to sustain those losses and keep winning on a consistant basis.

With free agency and salary caps, those teams just don't exist any more.

When Garrett took over he was gifted/given a franchise QB who already knew his system

With that he has produced 1 winning season IN 5 and one playoff season

One!!!

Think about it!!!

In this league of parity you almost win 50% of your games automatically if you have a franchise QB

Look at the records and playoff appearances of teams with top 5-7 QBs in the last 5 years
Brady
Rodgers
Manning
Big Ben
Luck
Brees

If you have a franchise QB, it is not unusual to make the playoffs, it is unusual to miss them!!!

I would venture to say that it is difficult to achieve the depths of mediocrity Garrett had been able to achieve

And you want to give him credit, lol?
 

PA Cowboy Fan

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,354
Reaction score
51,350
When Garrett took over he was gifted/given a franchise QB who already knew his system

With that he has produced 1 winning season IN 5 and one playoff season

One!!!

Think about it!!!

In this league of parity you almost win 50% of your games automatically if you have a franchise QB

Look at the records and playoff appearances of teams with top 5-7 QBs in the last 5 years
Brady
Rodgers
Manning
Big Ben
Luck
Brees

If you have a franchise QB, it is not unusual to make the playoffs, it is unusual to miss them!!!

I would venture to say that it is difficult to achieve the depths of mediocrity Garrett had been able to achieve

And you want to give him credit, lol?

Well he's very good at being mediocre. lol
 

bayeslife

187beatdown
Messages
9,461
Reaction score
8,584
I grew watching the 2000s Cowboys so this doesn't really mean anything to me.
 

plasticman

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,606
Reaction score
17,737
When Garrett took over he was gifted/given a franchise QB who already knew his system

With that he has produced 1 winning season IN 5 and one playoff season

One!!!

Think about it!!!

In this league of parity you almost win 50% of your games automatically if you have a franchise QB

Look at the records and playoff appearances of teams with top 5-7 QBs in the last 5 years
Brady
Rodgers
Manning
Big Ben
Luck
Brees

If you have a franchise QB, it is not unusual to make the playoffs, it is unusual to miss them!!!

I would venture to say that it is difficult to achieve the depths of mediocrity Garrett had been able to achieve

And you want to give him credit, lol?

Lol, yeah, some gift.

That's all he got.

He got no offensive line, no running game, no defense, particularly no pass defense.

As interim Head Coach, his gift quarterback was out for the season after a 1-3 start. By the time Jason took over this team was 1-7.

They were 5-3 the second half under Jason....without Tony Romo, without John Kitna for the last two games.

Tony Romo has never been better than he was with Jason Garrett as Head Coach. Before, he had a tendency to be reckless. Also, they relied on his passing way too much. The Cowboys win 75% of the time Tony throws leas than 35 passes. They win only 40% of the time when he passes more.

With a running game Tony flourished. Last year he was ranked #1 for the first time. His performance in late season games and playoffs improved dramatically.

Before Garrett, Romo's playoff rating was 80.8
Last season it was 125.2.

It's not that Romo is a franchise quarterback. He is, of course. But better than that, he is a veteran quarterback that worked his way from the bottom on up. Nobody ever gave Romo anything, he had to work for it all. He is one of only two quarterbacks in NFL history that didn't take a single snap as a quarterback during his first three seasons.

Ironically, they both had the same Head Coach. The other guy won a Super Bowl.....Jeff Hostetler.
 

perrykemp

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,503
Reaction score
9,274
Tony Romo has never been better than he was with Jason Garrett as Head Coach.

Good post.

To me the $64,000 question is whether JG has made any real difference is Romo's evolution OR It's just been Romo, a naturally talented QB, getting better each year and improving.

Did the Romo of 2011, 2012, and 2013 look appreciably different than the Romo pre-JG as a head-coach? I'm not so sure.

It wasn't until Jerry Jones basically forced JG to give up playing calling that Romo had his best year (last year).

Anyway, I am not a JG hater, however, I'm not so sure it's easy to point to JG making a huge difference in the evolution of the Romo or even the Cowboys. Lots of cruddy and/or mediocre coaches have a good season every now and then. The truly good coaches find a way to do it year after year.
 

Wolfpack

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,696
Reaction score
3,973
First time I've ever seen the complete list. The thing that strikes me first is, how are the Brows in the top half of the list? When were they ever good for a long time?

They dominated in the 50's and into the early 60's under Paul Brown and Otto Graham. Also good runs in the late 70's and mid 80's. The 90's + have been horrid.
 
Top