Cowboys meeting with Obi Melifonwu today

[Gaede]

I guess he struggles in zone coverage. We just let Carr and Claiborne go who are man guys...we may be looking for guys who can play a great zone in search for more turnovers.

Desmond King at 60, all the way

 

[haleyrules]

With a name like that he better be good! .

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Which is something we already saw Greg Jackson turn around in Wilcox's game.

Great point. Jackson really turned all our safeties around. I remember the hate Heath got......now he is Ed Reed.....I'm excited and would be happy with Obi. I want to see Frazier development as well

 

[jterrell]

I'd draft Josh Jones after I took Watt at 28.

jones not likely there at 60 either brother but a good thought.

 

[Paniolo22]

I doubt it. 3rd round grade.

3rd round for some, 1st for others. Just depends on who you listen to. Haven't seen enough myself to really know, but will look as we get closer. He is definitely a possibility at 28, whether I like him or not.

 

[AsthmaField]

Dallas could be meeting with him just in case he's there at the 60th pick.

 

[stilltheguru88]

Dallas could be meeting with him just in case he's there at the 60th pick.

Or they could take him at 28. Afterall, he's a better prospect than Byron Jones was.

 

[AsthmaField]

Or they could take him at 28. Afterall, he's a better prospect than Byron Jones was.

I don't see it bro.

 

[Gaede]

I like Obi.

Not sure if he's a first rounder...but I can see it.

 

[stilltheguru88]

I don't see it bro.

I mean, neither guy looked that good in college but if I had to pick, Obi looks better. They are both more Sparq than production

 

[DC Cowboy]

With the big wr's in our division (Pryor, Marshall, Jeffrey) this guy could make alot of sense, Jones could jump to cb as well as needed to help smother those big slow guys. Il let the fo decide if hes worth 28 and/or the best player available as they have been on fire! If you have the right scheme/plan for this guy, he could be a force IMO

What about Kevin King at CB then? He is 6'3".

 

[Tristan]

What about Kevin King at CB then? He is 6'3".

I like King alot, he woukd be a great addition imo

 

[JohnsKey19]

I like Obi.

Not sure if he's a first rounder...but I can see it.

I agree. I know nothing about this guy other than the measurables and combine performance. But he fits the profile of what the team likes. Another big athletic FS type with ability to play CB. Not sure I like it but could see it happening.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Which is something we already saw Greg Jackson turn around in Wilcox's game.

Same could be said about Baker or several other S's.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Same could be said about Baker or several other S's.

I don't think Baker overruns plays. I do think he gets run over by blockers and ball carriers and jumped over by pass catchers.

I don't see Jackson fixing that.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I don't think Baker overruns plays. I do think he gets run over by blockers and ball carriers and jumped over by pass catchers.

I don't see Jackson fixing that.

He also makes plays with ball skills, something Obi struggles with which Jackson can not help.

Obi struggles with mental processing and recognition, something Brugler thinks may not be able to be overcome Jackson or not.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He also makes plays with ball skills, something Obi struggles with which Jackson can not help.

When to look for the ball comes down to timing and knowing routes and combinations of routes. That can be taught.

There is technique in high pointing balls, setting up your hands, positioning and the like that can very much so be taught. Obi also had 6 picks these past two years which is two more than what Baker managed.

OTOH the apex of Baker's jump and how much momentum his little body can absorb before being driven back are what they are.

 

[Rogerthat12]

When to look for the ball comes down to timing and knowing routes and combinations of routes. That can be taught.

There is technique in high pointing balls, setting up your hands, positioning and the like that can very much so be taught.

OTOH the apex of Baker's jump and how much momentum his little body can absorb before being driven back are what they are.

If Obi can not speed up recognition and his mental processing all of his tools and athleticism will not help on the next level, time will tell.

Baker, though undersized, is a play maker and has excellent ball skills, this can not be reasonably denied.

Brugler on Obi:

WEAKNESSES: Not explosive and more of a one-note athlete – tested much better than he plays…doesn’t trust his reads and waits until the ball is thrown before committing…hyper-conservative and often attacks at half-speed to limit mistakes, sacrificing yardage…routinely late to the sideline…eyes pay rent in the backfield…achieves proper position and locates the ball, but his marginal ball skills leave production on the field…hands-on approach downfield will attract attention from zebras…passive working through traffic and late to locate blockers…bad habit of stopping his feet at contact and needs to better drive through his man.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If Obi can not speed up recognition and his mental processing all of his tools and athleticism will not help on the next level, time will tell.

Baker, though undersized, is a play maker and has excellent ball skills, this can not be reasonably denied.

I would leave it to the coaches as to whether or not they feel they can coach up his issues. I am just saying we have seen Jackson do it firsthand with a different player already. He is also not near as bad as Wilcox was either.

I am not going to deny that Baker can make plays but I watched team, Stanford in particular, after team just complete passes over him as he struggled to high point and blow him away by blocks.

Baker would be a nice nickelback with his coverage abilities though. I would be fine with him in the second. No way as a first rounder. I would pick Obi if everyone including Lamp was picked clean in the first. Likely a Qb is there and we can trade in that situation but I could see it.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I would leave it to the coaches as to whether or not they feel they can coach up his issues. I am just saying we have seen Jackson do it firsthand with a different player already. He is also not near as bad as Wilcox was either.

I am not going to deny that Baker can make plays but I watched team, Stanford in particular, after team just complete passes over him as he struggled to high point and blow him away by blocks.

Baker would be a nice nickelback with his coverage abilities though. I would be fine with him in the second. No way as a first rounder. I would pick Obi if everyone including Lamp was picked clean in the first. Likely a Qb is there and we can trade in that situation but I could see it.

I agree that Jackson and Eberflus as well assisted the secondary so on that we agree.

I do think Baker can be helped by Jackson with his over aggressiveness in tackling and with respect to angles but you would have to sacrifice some size for his play making ability this is true.

I would not take Baker at #28 either.

I actually like Obi as a prospect but not at #28, if he can get the mental side down he has all the tools but will be over drafted primarily based on his measurables and athleticism not on his actual game tape.