Cowboys not Bad Boys.... far from it!!!

[Gryphon]

Originally posted by thebigwoobie and Sack Master from another forum:

Check this out!
The link is for the profootballtalk.com turd watch.
ABOUT TURD WATCH

Turd Watch is a device for tracking and publicizing player arrests and convictions. Though some might find the name to be unpleasant, NFL scouts, coaches, players, and agents commonly use the term "turd" in reference to guys who are, well, turds.

To the right of the page, you will see a link for Archived Page. That will take you to the count for all of last year. You might just be surprised.....no, SHOCKED........at what you see!


http://www.profootballtalk.com/turd-watch/police-blotter/

Turd Watch "Standings"

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AFC EAST

N.E. 13
Buffalo 3
Miami 3
N.Y. Jets 0


AFC NORTH

Cleveland 12
Cincinnati 9
Pittsburgh 6
Baltimore 0


AFC South
Tennessee 19

Indianapolis 12
Houston 6
Jacksonville 3


AFC WEST

Denver 19
Oakland 3
San Diego 0
Kansas City 0


NFC EAST

Philadelphia 22
N.Y. Giants 3
Washington 0
Dallas 0


NFC North

Detroit 17
Minnesota 13
Chicago 9
Green Bay 3


NFC South

New Orleans 10
Atlanta 3
Tampa Bay 0
Carolina 0


NFC West

Arizona 9
San Francisco 6
Seattle 6
St. Louis 0

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WOW, Philly with a league leading 22. But they are a well behaved team.

 

[DCBoysfan]

The Cowboys have taken great steps with Calvin Hill to change the climate at Valley Ranch

 

[BehindEnemyLinez]

I'm not surprised. JJ has went to great lengths to get (and create) quality, high character guys and this NFL version of a police blotter just proves that he's been successful. It's funny that the perception from most of the Cowboys' haters is that Valley Ranch is a halfway house when in reality they're basically a team full of "choir boys" (kinda )!
I find it funny that Philly's players are taking on the mentality of their fans! Maybe the jail @ the Linc will begin to house players also so they can start some type of work-release program to keep them on the field!!

 

[Mike_45]

Wow 22 for the Eagles, the pats have 13. How come we havent heard about these hooligan Patriots? If TO farts in public we hear about it on ESPN for a week.

Mike

 

[sago1]

Wonder how many football fans would be shocked if they could see these stats. You better bet that many of them would be even more shocked to see that the Cowboys had no arrests or any other problem (along with the blasted Skins). Even my brother, a Skins fan, teases me about guys like TO & Pacman. Think I'll make a copy of above so I'll have it handy whenever needed. Would make interesting topic of conversation when fans of other teams come on this board to cause trouble.

BTW: Can somebody tell me what the Bengals were thinking when they drafted that one guy? They never learn. Maybe I'll go back and see who Titans drafted. Understand from someone that they also drafted a player with problems.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

This is great news!

 

[Hostile]

What is the criteria for this list? The archived list on the right of the page in the link shows one team with 77 incidents. That can't be arrests.

Cincy with fewer than Philly?

Seems pretty random.

 

[Wimbo]

What is the criteria for this list? The archived list on the right of the page in the link shows one team with 77 incidents. That can't be arrests.

Cincy with fewer than Philly?

Seems pretty random.

OFFICIAL RULES


Everyone in the organization is eligible. Players, coaches, owners, front-office employees, etc. If the person works for the team and is arrested, the points will be assigned. The term “players” includes players on the roster, the practice squad, and any of the various “reserve” lists (with the exception of “reserve-retired”). The scoring system is simple. Seven points for a felony arrest, and seven for a conviction. Three points for a misdemeanor arrest, and three more for a conviction. If there are multiple charges, the points will stack.
For the purposes of the Turd Watch II scoring, a conviction includes a guilty plea, a plea of no contest, and the entry into a diversion program.
However, if the team cuts the player (or fires the employee) within seven days after an arrest, the points will be removed.​

 

[Wimbo]

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AFC EAST

N.E. 13
Buffalo 3
Miami 3
N.Y. Jets 0


AFC NORTH

Cleveland 12
Cincinnati 9
Pittsburgh 6
Baltimore 0


AFC South
Tennessee 19

Indianapolis 12
Houston 6
Jacksonville 3


AFC WEST

Denver 19
Oakland 3
San Diego 0
Kansas City 0


NFC EAST

Philadelphia 22
N.Y. Giants 3
Washington 0
Dallas 0


NFC North

Detroit 17
Minnesota 13
Chicago 9
Green Bay 3


NFC South

New Orleans 10
Atlanta 3
Tampa Bay 0
Carolina 0


NFC West

Arizona 9
San Francisco 6
Seattle 6
St. Louis 0

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That is 2008's year to date standings... Here is the 2007 final results:

AFC EAST
Miami 77
Buffalo 10
New York 3
New England 0
AFC NORTH
Pittsburgh 33
Cincinnati 22
Cleveland 15
Baltimore 6
AFC South
Jacksonville 64
Tennessee 34
Indianapolis 15
Houston 7
AFC WEST
Denver 29
Oakland 17
San Diego 5
Kansas City 1
NFC EAST
Washington 9
Dallas 0
New York 3
Philadelphia 0
NFC North
Minnesota 48
Chicago 6
Green Bay 6
Detroit 0
NFC South
Atlanta 44
Tampa Bay 39
New Orleans 17
Carolina 9
NFC West
St. Louis 10
Seattle 10
Arizona 3
San Francisco 3​

 

[Hostile]

Those numbers seem unreal to me. 77 arrests for Miami players? 64 for Jacksonville? Where have those headlines been?

 

[Wimbo]

Those numbers seem unreal to me. 77 arrests for Miami players? 64 for Jacksonville? Where have those headlines been?

Hos, Read post #8.

 

[Alexander]

I'm not surprised. JJ has went to great lengths to get (and create) quality, high character guys and this NFL version of a police blotter just proves that he's been successful. It's funny that the perception from most of the Cowboys' haters is that Valley Ranch is a halfway house when in reality they're basically a team full of "choir boys" (kinda )!
I find it funny that Philly's players are taking on the mentality of their fans! Maybe the jail @ the Linc will begin to house players also so they can start some type of work-release program to keep them on the field!!

It shouldn't be a shock to anyone who knows what they are talking about.

I always find the "Crackboys" comments amusing from other team's fans. We may have been that way in the 1990s, but no longer.

It just goes to show you many fans just don't do their research.

 

[Hostile]

Hos, Read post #8.

Wade Wilson being suspended 5 games didn't equal any points lost in 2007?

 

[Gryphon]

I believe his issue happened when he was with Chicago.

 

[Wimbo]

Wade Wilson being suspended 5 games didn't equal any points lost in 2007?

Wade wasn't arrested.

 

[Hostile]

OFFICIAL RULES​

Everyone in the organization is eligible. Players, coaches, owners, front-office employees, etc. If the person works for the team and is arrested, the points will be assigned. The term “players” includes players on the roster, the practice squad, and any of the various “reserve” lists (with the exception of “reserve-retired”). The scoring system is simple. Seven points for a felony arrest, and seven for a conviction. Three points for a misdemeanor arrest, and three more for a conviction. If there are multiple charges, the points will stack.
For the purposes of the Turd Watch II scoring, a conviction includes a guilty plea, a plea of no contest, and the entry into a diversion program.

However, if the team cuts the player (or fires the employee) within seven days after an arrest, the points will be removed.​

Wade wasn't arrested.

See above.

Why would they count that towards Chicago?

 

[Disturbed]

So this tracks incidents by team and scores it to help quantify behavioral performance. Interesting to look at but in the end it really does not mean much -- does it. I mean, all it takes is one key player to screw up and get suspended to really effect a team. And not all infractions are the same...

I would be concerned if we were at the league average or higher. Why are teams like Miami, Jacksonville, and Minnesota so high in 2007 (I understand Atlanta)? And if they correct this does that translate into better performance (wins)? And the 2008 numbers, is that from the end of this past season?

 

[ndanger]

See above.

Why would they count that towards Chicago?

Because the incedent took place while he was with Chicago.

 

[Hostile]

Because the incedent took place while he was with Chicago.

Not the suspension/diversion.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Not the suspension/diversion.

If I'm not mistaken, all points go against the team where the originating violation occurred...