Cowboys PPG

[CCBoy]

...because the QB he had to work with went 46 of 80 (57.5% comp %) for 460 yards with 2 td's and 3 int's....so was it really Moore's game planning or Dak's poor play that cost another Dallas coach his job?

Responsibility always goes up...

 

[Denim Chicken]

Of course it matters, but as an overall average it doesn't tell the whole story. For example, all 25 ppg is not created equal. Context matters. You can consistently score that, which would be ideal. Or just beat up on lesser opponents, and score very little against greater opponents, and get the same average. The two are totally different yet yield the same results.

Nothing tells the whole story, bro. Where have you been?

 

[Plankton]

It will probably be less on the basis that they want to run the football more frequently. If they can average between 28-31 points, and limit other teams to 18-20, they will be in position to have a very good season.

 

[bigE79]

yep, if the defense would score more, then dak wouldn't go into panic mode and choke. I blame the bad defense.

Yep,dak likes his regular season stats

 

[VaqueroTD]

Easy to score when your defense can get the ball back so much.

 

[Captain-Crash]

Again and again people bring up PPG, and think it's just an offensive stat. It's not.
The Cowboys defense led the league in turnovers the last couple of years (including a decent amount of TDs of their own). That is a HUGE factor in it.
And before anyone wants to look talk about Rush and them not scoring points. The defense was a little slow in racking up their turnovers to start the season. Rush didn't benefit from much in that regard.

 

[john van brocklin]

they fired him because the offense scored 17 points at home to SF, then scored 12 points on the road to SF the following year.

No one cares if you score 40+ points against bad defenses like the colts, bears, and Vikings. They do care when you can’t even score 20 points when the defenses are actually good and the season is on the line

Bingo!!!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

DamnKellen Moore sucked as an OC...I mean, he couldn't lead Dallas to 40+ points/game....no wonder they fired him.

Damn that Dak Prescott sucks as a QB. I mean, he coudn't lead Dallas to 40 + points/game.......no wonder the trolls want him cut.

I know you were being wildly sarcastic. Sounds equally as dumb when you slip Dak's name in there.

 

[plasticman]

How many this season? I think probably in the negative considering the trajectory

With 2.4 points per game in 2021 and 1.2 points per game in 2022 donated by your friendly Cowboys defense and special teams.

But wait, there's more.

I think we can look forward to the same productivity this season by the defense. When you have this type of defense, it would be wrong not to give them their props. Not to mention, how many times did this defense put the Cowboys offense in excellent position to score?

Anytime that you see a team's points per game ranking much higher than their average yards per game ranking, that's a sign of great help from your defense.

The Cowboys offense, last season was ranked #11 in yardage gained, a few steps higher than average. However, their points per game was ranked #4. That is superior field position. You get that from your special teams and/or your defense.

In 2022 there were 12 scoring drives (8TD's, 4FG's) that started on the opponent's side of the field as a result of an INT or fumble recovery. Only the 49ers and Jaguars had more.

 

[Cowboy_svt]

This season will see if its the OC or the qb. (Second time actually)

Since both people seem to see them as mutually exclusive.

 

[Strykerscm]

DamnKellen Moore sucked as an OC...I mean, he couldn't lead Dallas to 40+ points/game....no wonder they fired him.

It’s almost like it wasn’t kellens fault Dak sucksz

 

[CCBoy]

DVOA Overview​

TEAM	Offensive DVOA	Defensive DVOA	Special Teams DVOA	TOTAL DVOA- Overall Rank
DALLAS	9.3% (3)	-6.8 (3)	0.2% (12)	16.3% – No. 1
GIANTS	-1.5% (19)	3.9% (27)	-1.1% (31)	-6.4% – No. 23

Season-Preview DVOA: Dallas dominates (4-0)

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-giants-advanced-stats-notebook-2023-week-1/

Offensive EPA (2022)​

TEAM	Dropback EPA/Play	Rushing EPA/Play	Total EPA/Play	Success Rate
DALLAS	0.082 (9)	-0.031 (12)	0.031 (10)	45.2% – No. 13
GIANTS	0.058 (12)	-0.002 (7)	0.034 (9)	45.1% – No. 15

EPA Offensive Advantage: Push (2 to 2)

Defensive EPA (2022)​

TEAM	Dropback EPA/Play	Rushing EPA/Play	Total EPA/Play	Success Rate
DALLAS	-0.059 (4)	-0.126 (4)	-0.087 (2)	41.4% – No. 4
GIANTS	0.048 (20)	0.043(31)	0.046 (28)	44.0% – No. 16

EPA Defensive Advantage: Dallas dominates (4-0)

Toxicity on Offense (2022)​

TEAM	Explosive Passes	Explosive Runs	Giveaways	Differential
DALLAS	50	62	22	+90
GIANTS	28	74	16	+90

Offensive Toxicity: Push

Toxicity on Defense (2022)​

TEAM	Explosive Plays Allowed	Explosive Runs Allowed	Takeaways	Dfferential
DALLAS	43	67	34	-66
GIANTS	48	79	18	-109

Defensive Toxicity: Cowboys

Overall Toxicity: Cowboys +34, Giants -19



Cowboys’ Net Advantage in 2022: 53 more big plays (3.1 per game)

As far as it’s importance, ANY/A comes in third when it comes to correlation to victory with an R² coefficient of 0.69. That’s only behind scoring differential and passer rating differential.

TEAM	ANY/A For	ANY/A Against	Differential
DALLAS	6.0 (20)	5.2 (9)	+0.8
GIANTS	5.7 (22)	6.2 (10)	-0.5

ANY/A Differential (2022): Dallas dominates

 

[Buzzbait]

...because the QB he had to work with went 46 of 80 (57.5% comp %) for 460 yards with 2 td's and 3 int's....so was it really Moore's game planning or Dak's poor play....... that cost another Dallas coach his job?

.......or BOTH? I'd venture both.
I'll take MM at the helm any day over Moore.

 

[BaybeeJay]

PPG don't mean crap. You can beat a crap team 45-0 and lose to a good team 17-10. Your PPG is 31 points per game. You're 1-1. If you actually scored 31 per game you'd be 2-0. That stat is garbage.

I forget what year it was, either 2019 or 2018 where the Cowboys averaged 29PPG. They ended up 8-8. Had they actually scored 29 PPG they'd be 12-4. This has to be one of the more misleading stats available.

I don’t think you understand statistical distributions.

But to your point, it would be nice if standard deviation was also reported.

 

[Flamma]

I don’t think you understand statistical distributions.

But to your point, it would be nice if standard deviation was also reported.

Maybe I don't understand it. What I do understand is that PPG is not a useful statistic. Mainly because you can have vastly different outcomes with the exact same PPG statistic.

 

[JD_KaPow]

PPG don't mean crap. You can beat a crap team 45-0 and lose to a good team 17-10. Your PPG is 31 points per game. You're 1-1. If you actually scored 31 per game you'd be 2-0. That stat is garbage.

I forget what year it was, either 2019 or 2018 where the Cowboys averaged 29PPG. They ended up 8-8. Had they actually scored 29 PPG they'd be 12-4. This has to be one of the more misleading stats available.

Point differential (yes, you have to look at how many points you give up too) is one of the best simple predictors of season record.

You're supposed to score tons of points against bad teams and not as many against good teams. That's how things work.

Yes, you can find weird and fluky years where W-L record and point differential diverge. It was 2019 you were thinking of: the Cowboys outscored their opponents by over 100 points but went 8-8 because they went 1-6 in one-score games. But seasons like that are few and far between.

 

[Flamma]

Yes, you can find weird and fluky years where W-L record and point differential diverge. It was 2019 you were thinking of: the Cowboys outscored their opponents by over 100 points but went 8-8 because they went 1-6 in one-score games. But seasons like that are few and far between.

Well yeah, this was glaring to me. The Cowboys would have been 12-4 had hey actually scored their average PPG. This is why I don't take that statistic seriously.

 

[VaqueroTD]

Maybe I don't understand it. What I do understand is that PPG is not a useful statistic. Mainly because you can have vastly different outcomes with the exact same PPG statistic.

JD shows the anomaly with the 1 score games, and I think the other thing to watch is offense/defense balance. St.Louis Rams Greatest Show on Turf is probably a good example of that one. High scoring offense that after the first season couldn’t overcome the defensive liabilities. Otherwise, I think PPG, but especially point differential, is a highly consistent predictor of success. BobHaze posted a few stat threads on it last year. Another reason why I feel good about this year. Don’t feel like we ever had that consistent balance with our defense/offense until McCarthy.

 

[blueblood70]

PPG don't mean crap. You can beat a crap team 45-0 and lose to a good team 17-10. Your PPG is 31 points per game. You're 1-1. If you actually scored 31 per game you'd be 2-0. That stat is garbage.

I forget what year it was, either 2019 or 2018 where the Cowboys averaged 29PPG. They ended up 8-8. Had they actually scored 29 PPG they'd be 12-4. This has to be one of the more misleading stats available.

Nothing tells the whole story, bro. Where have you been?

Right

if he wants to use that logic about the offense it's the same with the defense have all them games it we had to score more than 25-40 because they gave up a lot of points but then they shut down bad teams, it's the same thing on both sides of the ball,.

so you can't give credit to the defense for being so good at holding teams down if you look at just their 17 game average that's what he's saying about the offense that it really isn't truly 32 points per game but that is how the whole league is judged so why are you just changing the standard for the Cowboys because you want to somehow downplay your own team success?

 

[shabazz]

PPG don't mean crap. You can beat a crap team 45-0 and lose to a good team 17-10. Your PPG is 31 points per game. You're 1-1. If you actually scored 31 per game you'd be 2-0. That stat is garbage.

I forget what year it was, either 2019 or 2018 where the Cowboys averaged 29PPG. They ended up 8-8. Had they actually scored 29 PPG they'd be 12-4. This has to be one of the more misleading stats available.

Scoring 1 TD and 12 total points in a playoff game is FAR more indicative of an offenses ability and production than that PPG drivel.