Cowboys release TO *Merged*

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Ren;2671814 said:
If it's better why would you be happy with 9-7?

owens was not the TEAM. You can think he was, hell he thought he was.
he wasn't. I give you the Eagles minus owens. Were they worse?

One huge distraction is gone. I'm sure there are players (Romo) feeling a ton of bricks being lifted off his shoulders.

You keep on believing owens made the Cowboys. You will be pleasantly surprised this coming season. That's a good thing.

13-3 and nothing in the end is the same as any thing else.
Unless 13-3 with zero to show for it is acceptable to you.
 

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Ren;2671829 said:
we not as good as we where but we're not Detroit bad, thinking this makes us better is ********
Call me ******** then. We're a less talented team today then yesterday, that much is undeniable. Replacing The Player's production will be difficult. But there's a lot of time in FA left, we've got 11 draft picks and a fair amount of cash to address this and other needs.

To dismiss this, in addition to the possibility that chemistry and discipline will be better because of this, out of hand seems pretty ******** to me.

i expect we'll finish better than 9-7 next year.
 

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Dave_in-NC;2671860 said:
owens was not the TEAM. You can think he was, hell he thought he was.
he wasn't. I give you the Eagles minus owens. Were they worse?

One huge distraction is gone. I'm sure there are players (Romo) feeling a ton of bricks being lifted off his shoulders.

You keep on believing owens made the Cowboys. You will be pleasantly surprised this coming season. That's a good thing.

13-3 and nothing in the end is the same as any thing else.
Unless 13-3 with zero to show for it is acceptable to you.

The eagles went to the super bowl while owens was on the roster they haven't been back since.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671867 said:
The eagles went to the super bowl while owens was on the roster they haven't been back since.
*cough!* San Francisco *cough!* Dallas *cough!*
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671867 said:
The eagles went to the super bowl while owens was on the roster they haven't been back since.

But they made it that Superbowl without him on the field and lost when he came back. This therefore proves that T.O. brings a team down.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671867 said:
The eagles went to the super bowl while owens was on the roster they haven't been back since.

He stretched the field from the sidelines? He is a super hero.:rolleyes:

Three years here and we didn't make the playoffs. He aint that super.
 

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Dave_in-NC;2671860 said:
owens was not the TEAM. You can think he was, hell he thought he was.
he wasn't. I give you the Eagles minus owens. Were they worse?

One huge distraction is gone. I'm sure there are players (Romo) feeling a ton of bricks being lifted off his shoulders.

You keep on believing owens made the Cowboys. You will be pleasantly surprised this coming season. That's a good thing.

13-3 and nothing in the end is the same as any thing else.
Unless 13-3 with zero to show for it is acceptable to you.

I hope so, i just can't see it with the current team our WR depth was bad 1 years ago right now it's just sad and when you don't have a passing game your running game will suffer.
Wade and Garrett where and still are our real problem
 

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fanfromvirginia;2671866 said:
Call me ******** then. We're a less talented team today then yesterday, that much is undeniable. Replacing The Player's production will be difficult. But there's a lot of time in FA left, we've got 11 draft picks and a fair amount of cash to address this and other needs.

To dismiss this, in addition to the possibility that chemistry and discipline will be better because of this, out of hand seems pretty ******** to me.

i expect we'll finish better than 9-7 next year.

Didn't you know owens was the last WR ever in the NFL or draft?
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671867 said:
The eagles went to the super bowl while owens was on the roster they haven't been back since.
and he played no part in getting them there. 3 years before owens was there they went to 3 straight nfc championship games. owens missed the entire 2004 playoffs than came back for the superbowl.
 

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Ren;2671888 said:
I hope so, i just can't see it with the current team our WR depth was bad 1 years ago right now it's just sad and when you don't have a passing game your running game will suffer.
Wade and Garrett where and still are our real problem

Regardless if owens was here or not. That I agree with.
 

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Rampage;2671896 said:
and he played no part in getting them there. 3 years before owens was there they went to 3 straight nfc championship games. owens missed the entire 2004 playoffs than came back for the superbowl.


True.

So they were a Super Bowl contending team before Owens. Made it to the Super Bowl with Owens injured. Almost won the Super Bowl with an injured Owens. Then, years lapse before they reach the NFC Championship game again.

Compare that to the talent we have assembled.

We're a borderline playoff team with Owens.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2671867 said:
The eagles went to the super bowl while owens was on the roster they haven't been back since.

There have been 45 or so Super Bowl Champions, and not one of those teams included TO!

I will go out on a limb and predict that TO will retire without a Super Bowl Championship.

So if we are not going to win a SB with or without him, why put up with his nonsense day in and day out? Why should every other player have to answer questions about TO on a daily basis?
 

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Mr Cowboy;2671919 said:
There have been 45 or so Super Bowl Champions, and not one of those teams included TO!

I will go out on a limb and predict that TO will retire without a Super Bowl Championship.

So if we are not going to win a SB with or without him, why put up with his nonsense day in and day out? Why should every other player have to answer questions about TO on a daily basis?[/QUOTE]

You nailed it right there.
 

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Ren;2671888 said:
Wade and Garrett where and still are our real problem

And they would be if TO were here or not this season. In fact I can make the argument they are a worse problem with TO on the team than they are with TO gone, as neither seems to have the ability to control the locker, and that is where TO was the biggest problem.

WIth him gone Wade has one less ringleader challenging his lack of authority, and Garrett doesn't have Jerry agreeing in public that TO needs the ball more. He's free to gameplan without having to worry about funneling large chunks of the offense through one WR to keep his trap shut.

I'm no fan of either, and I agree until they prove otherwise they are still problems, but removing TO just made both of their jobs and chances to succeed better, not worse.

I've said before I would rather keep TO and hire Shanahan and give Owens one more chance to get in line with a real HC who has actual respect and authority. But failing that, this is a move I thought needed to be done if we were going to keep these two.
 

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wileedog;2671983 said:
And they would be if TO were here or not this season. In fact I can make the argument they are a worse problem with TO on the team than they are with TO gone, as neither seems to have the ability to control the locker, and that is where TO was the biggest problem.

WIth him gone Wade has one less ringleader challenging his lack of authority, and Garrett doesn't have Jerry agreeing in public that TO needs the ball more. He's free to gameplan without having to worry about funneling large chunks of the offense through one WR to keep his trap shut.

I'm no fan of either, and I agree until they prove otherwise they are still problems, but removing TO just made both of their jobs and chances to succeed better, not worse.

A poodle could challenge Wade's authority, and Garrett has bigger things to worry about now like coming up with a running play that's not a shotgun draw, how his non blocking o line is going to deal with 8 and 9 man fronts and how to get the ball to a WR who can't even run routes.

They're out of excuses now and their jobs just got a lot harder
 

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just heard on espn radio that age, last year production and salary was the reason he was released
 

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Avaj;2672002 said:
just heard on espn radio that age, last year production and salary was the reason he was released

yet people want to replace him with Holt :lmao2:
 

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