Video: Cowboys Round Table: Early Rookie Standouts; Ryan Switzer Taco Charlton

[adbutcher]

 

[lkelly]

So the big upside so far on Taco is that he did well talking to the media?

Rich Dalrymple is looking over his shoulder.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

Can someone write a summarized transcript? I can't watch the video from work

 

[gimmesix]

I think if Broaddus is only looking for explosiveness on his first step, then he is going to favor a lot of players over Charlton. Charlton isn't about having that quick first step. He's just not that kind of player. If he's going to succeed in this league, it's going to be by using his long arms to keep tackles off his body enough so he can make moves to get an edge on them, then using his flexibility/bend to get around them. He's got enough speed and flexibility to succeed if he uses his length well.

Broaddus acts like there is only one way to be a quality pass rusher while the league has proven that that isn't the case as recent as last year when Bosa was being knocked for not having that elite quickness.. Maybe that's why Broaddus isn't a scout anymore.

 

[Idgit]

I think if Broaddus is only looking for explosiveness on his first step, then he is going to favor a lot of players over Charlton. Charlton isn't about having that quick first step. He's just not that kind of player. If he's going to succeed in this league, it's going to be by using his long arms to keep tackles off his body enough so he can make moves to get an edge on them, then using his flexibility/bend to get around them. He's got enough speed and flexibility to succeed if he uses his length well.

Broaddus acts like there is only one way to be a quality pass rusher while the league has proven that that isn't the case as recent as last year when Bosa was being knocked for not having that elite quickness.. Maybe that's why Broaddus isn't a scout anymore.

He gets it in his mind that he doesn't like a guy, and then that's what he sees.

Sounds like there really wasn't anything to see with the linemen in the rookie camp here, anyway. That's ok. I can wait for training camp at this point.

 

[Carson]

He gets it in his mind that he doesn't like a guy, and then that's what he sees.

Sounds like there really wasn't anything to see with the linemen in the rookie camp here, anyway. That's ok. I can wait for training camp at this point.

Pretty much shorts and helmets and tons of conditioning.

 

[gimmesix]

He gets it in his mind that he doesn't like a guy, and then that's what he sees.

Sounds like there really wasn't anything to see with the linemen in the rookie camp here, anyway. That's ok. I can wait for training camp at this point.

The types of drills they run favor those speed guys since they primarily just have to get around the obstacle(s) as quickly as possible. Frankly, if you're just a speed guy and you don't shine in no-contact drills, then it does not bode well for you. Backs who are all about quickness and speed should look like world beaters, receivers who can't get off press coverage can look great when minimal contact is allowed or you're running drills against air, etc.

 

[jazzcat22]

I think if Broaddus is only looking for explosiveness on his first step, then he is going to favor a lot of players over Charlton. Charlton isn't about having that quick first step. He's just not that kind of player. If he's going to succeed in this league, it's going to be by using his long arms to keep tackles off his body enough so he can make moves to get an edge on them, then using his flexibility/bend to get around them. He's got enough speed and flexibility to succeed if he uses his length well.

Broaddus acts like there is only one way to be a quality pass rusher while the league has proven that that isn't the case as recent as last year when Bosa was being knocked for not having that elite quickness.. Maybe that's why Broaddus isn't a scout anymore.

Broaddus needs to look at the scheme UM was running, it was more of a read and react I believe, so he would seem to have a slower first step.
Broaddus is good at reporting what is going on, but his scouting and analysis has always been horrible. And he uses his personal opinions way too much in his evaluations, instead of just true evaluating.
The opinions right or wrong needs to left to us fans....LOL....hence, this discussion board...

 

[tyke1doe]

He talked about a Lee Jones (?) - an undrafted free agent - having quickness and explosiveness off the ball.
Translation: He'll make the first cut.

 

[zrinkill]

Last year Broaddus said during training camp if they were just going by talent that Dak would be cut.

He said he would hang around because he was a draft pick.

 

[cowboyblue22]

broaddus is full of hot air most of what he says don't work out any way

 

[xwalker]

Broaddus needs to look at the scheme UM was running, it was more of a read and react I believe, so he would seem to have a slower first step.
Broaddus is good at reporting what is going on, but his scouting and analysis has always been horrible. And he uses his personal opinions way too much in his evaluations, instead of just true evaluating.
The opinions right or wrong needs to left to us fans....LOL....hence, this discussion board...

That is waaay more complicated than Broaddus can comprehend.

People should come to terms with the fact that Broaddus is a dummy and probably couldn't beat Claiborne on the Wonderlic test.

Parcells fired him for being a dummy. He tried and failed to get another job in scouting.

 

[casmith07]

I think if Broaddus is only looking for explosiveness on his first step, then he is going to favor a lot of players over Charlton. Charlton isn't about having that quick first step. He's just not that kind of player. If he's going to succeed in this league, it's going to be by using his long arms to keep tackles off his body enough so he can make moves to get an edge on them, then using his flexibility/bend to get around them. He's got enough speed and flexibility to succeed if he uses his length well.

Broaddus acts like there is only one way to be a quality pass rusher while the league has proven that that isn't the case as recent as last year when Bosa was being knocked for not having that elite quickness.. Maybe that's why Broaddus isn't a scout anymore.

Well, it's Broaddus. There's a reason why he's no longer working as a scout, and it's not because he chose to transition out of it.

 

[DFWJC]

That is waaay more complicated than Broaddus can comprehend.

People should come to terms with the fact that Broaddus is a dummy and probably couldn't beat Claiborne on the Wonderlic test.

Parcells fired him for being a dummy. He tried and failed to get another job in scouting.

Dang, x, don't hold back.

 

[gimmesix]

Broaddus needs to look at the scheme UM was running, it was more of a read and react I believe, so he would seem to have a slower first step.
Broaddus is good at reporting what is going on, but his scouting and analysis has always been horrible. And he uses his personal opinions way too much in his evaluations, instead of just true evaluating.
The opinions right or wrong needs to left to us fans....LOL....hence, this discussion board...

Well, Charlton wasn't reading and reacting in rookie minicamp. If he looked slower on initial quickness than the other DEs, it's likely because he is. I don't think he's going to win many first-step battles, and if that was all that went into making a good DE, then we'd be in trouble. Fortunately, not all successful DEs have to be built the same.

I agree, though, that a good scouts considers everything about the player including the scheme his team is using. Two of the players we drafted last year, Maliek Collins and Charles Tapper, appealed to us because we believed their skills were better-suited to our scheme than what their college teams used. If Broaddus is only basing his judgment on first step, then he's missing the rest of the picture.

I don't mean in any of this to say that Charlton's first step isn't good enough. It just isn't considered the basis for his skill set. The coaching staff compares him to David Irving and that's probably fairly accurate. I think he's quicker than Irving, though, but I could be wrong.

 

[xwalker]

Dang, x, don't hold back.

That was me holding back. The full version would not meet the rules here.

 

[xwalker]

Well, Charlton wasn't reading and reacting in rookie minicamp. If he looked slower on initial quickness than the other DEs, it's likely because he is. I don't think he's going to win many first-step battles, and if that was all that went into making a good DE, then we'd be in trouble. Fortunately, not all successful DEs have to be built the same.

I agree, though, that a good scouts considers everything about the player including the scheme his team is using. Two of the players we drafted last year, Maliek Collins and Charles Tapper, appealed to us because we believed their skills were better-suited to our scheme than what their college teams used. If Broaddus is only basing his judgment on first step, then he's missing the rest of the picture.

Broaddus reports things every year during this time period where fans can't see the players. Once we can see them in TC and Preseason games, it never matches what Broaddus reported.

His reports almost ALWAYS match his pre-draft opinions.

 

[gimmesix]

Broaddus reports things every year during this time period where fans can't see the players. Once we can see them in TC and Preseason games, it never matches what Broaddus reported.

His reports almost ALWAYS match his pre-draft opinions.

That's fair. Without being able to see them more, it's impossible to really say if what's being said matches up or if it is pre-judged..

 

[DC Cowboy]

Funny thing is Bruce Smith met with Myles Garrett and told him the same thing, that he needs to get off the ball quicker. Yet I think Broaddus would be happy with Garrett. I am not saying Taco is Garrett, just the fact that even the "better" players have something to work on.

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/5...-browns-de-myles-garrett-is-slow-off-the-ball

 

[xwalker]

That's fair. Without being able to see them more, it's impossible to really say if what's being said matches up or if it is pre-judged..

It is uncanny how often I've heard Broaddus either denigrate or rave about a player at this time of year and then when I went back to see his previous comments about them, it always matched. If he liked them in the past, he'll claim they're great now and vise-versa. I guess that's how some scouts try to cover their backside.

My all time favorite example, and if you know me, you'll know why, happened in the 1st week of training camp in 2014. Broaddus claimed that Darrion Weems was great and that Jermey Parnell was terrible. He said Parnell would be cut and Weems would be the swing Tackle. As soon as the Pre-Season games started, what we saw was the complete opposite. Parnell went on to start 7 games including two playoff games, gave up a total of 1 sack and dominated in the running game. He then got a free agent contract worth double the contract that Free received. Weems was cut before the start of the following season and was only active in 1 game ever for the Cowboys. It turns out that Broaddus had previously predicted Weems to beat out Parnell and in 2014 he was desperately trying to prove himself to be correct.