Cowboys source, Cowboys close to deal with Osa $21 Million a year

[Stash]

I'd be fine with it. Honestly though if we went that way I'd prefer to go the true 'all in' route and still spend on a good 3T. That could be OSA, or that could be a guy like Williams, whoever you like better. Give me Garrett, OSA, and Parsons all on the same DL for the next two years and I would gladly sacrifice 2027 as a rebuild year after that.

If you’re so inclined, take a look at DT Chris Williams with the Bears.

He has extensive experience with Eberfleus and is a restricted free agent.

I think he’d give a slightly lesser production than Osa at a fraction of the cost.

Sorry, I can be stubborn sometimes

No apologies necessary, I can certainly be the same way.

But in doing so, you’ve been totally respectful and I appreciate it.

 

[Denim Chicken]

21 million a year for a 4 year starting 3 tech that gave you 13.5 sacks and 28 TFLs while getting bullied in the run game.

Just monumentally idiotic.

But his advance stats, bro

 

[gimmesix]

I just cant see Jerry ever risking that. I would have to believe that someone would offer OSA a deal, and I think Jerry would be unlikely to match it simply because Jerry want to write up deals his way. I know the league has fixed some of the issues with the poison pill lingo from years ago on the tag offers, but a team still has to match an offer in its entirety, not just the years and AAV. We lost Randy Gregory (although a good thing) just because of an extra sentence Jerry wants in his contracts.

Since 2010 teams have offered out 128 franchise tags compared to just 6 transition tags. Teams really dont like to use them.

I was trying to look up how many times another team signed a player when he got the transition tag. I couldn't find it, but did find where a New England player received the tag and then signed a long-term deal with his team that April, so it was just temporary.

I think it is generally a deterrent without the poison pills that teams used to use. Teams don't want to spend time making an offer to a player when it can just be matched. Instead, they'd rather focus on players they know they can get with an offer to fill their need.

 

[Gameover]

"Nonsense" is a post offering nothing but chastising others for not being as credulous as you are. OK...I get it...you can't help but bend the knee so any analysis - critical analysis - hurts your feelings. I'm sure you'll get over the fact that I don't think Osa is worth a $21mm contract...if not...oh well...

Have no problem when the criticism is valid. Whinnying cause your team hasn't won in 30 years, while ignoring that you have been in the top 10 in the league over a 20 year stretch(2004-24) will not fly with me.

 

[kskboys]

Do you not understand that they can spend?

Do you not understand that there is a hard cap, and when you start paying people huge it's going to limit what you have at other positions, as well as your backups. This idea that they can spend whatever they want, where in tarnation does it come from? It simply does not make sense.

 

[kskboys]

But market value is a meaningless term. The question is should the Cowboys be paying the inflated market value of Osi?

The answer is no. He's not a top DT. He's a nice player in maybe the 12-15MM range, at best. Paying him an AAV of over $21MM is getting into upper echelon, top DT money.

That's not him.

People are calling the salaries of players "market value." It's a misnomer. And an excuse to hold out for max dollars. When you're referring to players, they are all different. There might be a range of market value players, but putting an exact dollar amount on any one player due to that grey term "market value" is foolish. That's more of a fan/greedy player thing.

Players are people, not some knickknack w/ an exact value.

 

[kskboys]

He's not a top free agent DT. He's not a Top 20 DT.

His value is only elevated because THIS IS A WEAK FA CLASS FOR DTs.

Put it another way. Let's say in this free agent class, Brandin Cooks is the best WR available? In theory, yeah, he's a top free agent WR but only because the FA class is so weak. A team would be foolish to pay him top WR money simply because he'd be the best WR available in FA.

This isn't hard.

Great example.

This reminds me of when we paid a #2 type CB #1 type money just because he was the best available. It was foolish then, foolish now, and will always be foolish.

 

[kskboys]

If this doesn’t happen, the same voices complaining about the Cowboys making this deal will be complaining that they didn’t.

Why is that important?

 

[kskboys]

You'd love it even if they gave him 51 mil.

He'd argue that he's worth it.

 

[rambo2]

Do you not understand that there is a hard cap, and when you start paying people huge it's going to limit what you have at other positions, as well as your backups. This idea that they can spend whatever they want, where in tarnation does it come from? It simply does not make sense.

Why don't you tell us what Osa's market value is?

 

[rambo2]

He'd argue that he's worth it.

His market value is 21.

 

[rambo2]

Why is that important?

It shows how stupid they are.

 

[rambo2]

Great example.

This reminds me of when we paid a #2 type CB #1 type money just because he was the best available. It was foolish then, foolish now, and will always be foolish.

Now you don't make sense. You do know that they need 3 dtackles right?

 

[Kwyn]

Why is that important?

Because too many fans don’t have real opinions. Their arguments are disingenuous and not made in good faith.

Their only *genuine* opinion is that everything about the team, including players, coaches, scouts, training staff, public relations, are all essentially awful and any decision is a bad one no matter what.

So, as is the case here, the same posters who are saying the team would be fools to sign Osa for $21m+ will be ranting about how the team isn’t serious if Osa signs somewhere else for the same money.

So, having realistic discussions about free agency is difficult at best.

That’s why it’s important.

 

[rambo2]

People are calling the salaries of players "market value." It's a misnomer. And an excuse to hold out for max dollars. When you're referring to players, they are all different. There might be a range of market value players, but putting an exact dollar amount on any one player due to that grey term "market value" is foolish. That's more of a fan/greedy player thing.

Players are people, not some knickknack w/ an exact value.

A player is not greedy when they are signing for what their market value is. Their agents and the teams know what their market value is. It's supply and demand.

 

[kskboys]

Why don't you tell us what Osa's market value is?

2 down DT, semidisruptive? His salary range is around 10-12 mil/season.

I don't like to refer to "market value" when discussing a human being. That term is quite dehumanizing.

 

[kskboys]

A player is not greedy when they are signing for what their market value is. Their agents and the teams know what their market value is. It's supply and demand.

Depends. Dak's "market value" was nowhere near 60 mil. Pure greed.

 

[kskboys]

Because too many fans don’t have real opinions. Their arguments are disingenuous and not made in good faith.

Their only *genuine* opinion is that everything about the team, including players, coaches, scouts, training staff, public relations, are all essentially awful and any decision is a bad one no matter what.

So, as is the case here, the same posters who are saying the team would be fools to sign Osa for $21m+ will be ranting about how the team isn’t serious if Osa signs somewhere else for the same money.

So, having realistic discussions about free agency is difficult at best.

That’s why it’s important.

Of course. I can't help it, I simply find it irritating when trying to have a discussion and someone starts spewing about other posters. You get it!!!!

 

[rambo2]

2 down DT, semidisruptive? His salary range is around 10-12 mil/season.

I don't like to refer to "market value" when discussing a human being. That term is quite dehumanizing.

Have you ever heard of spotrac?

 

[Rayman70]

It gives us an outstanding one two punch for several years. The dtackle class is deep. They still would be in position to get a good one. McMillan is a perfect fit for Dallas. He would make all of the receivers better.

I like him a lot. If we can also hit on the other needs as well, I'm on board.