Cowboys still have the edge

[cavemanct]

No we stink

 

[MonkeymanWoes]

Micah is ancient history. Pointless discussion. We are where we are. Our problems run far deeper than whether we won the Micah trade or not. We have a culture problem.

 

[ghst187]

Relitigating a trade because a player got injured is pointless

I think it is relevant because as Overshown has shown us, talent is awesome but availability is king

 

[LouBrown]

I think it is relevant because as Overshown has shown us, talent is awesome but availability is king

They didn't trade Micah knowing he was going to get hurt lol.

 

[Verdict]

Bottom line is, so far the Cowboys have turned Micah Parsons into Kenny Clark, Quinnen Williams, Devin Moore, and LT Overton.

All defensive players on a unit that is still miserable. Micah may miss a few more games but he's given Green Bay the pass rusher they expected. What exactly have the Cowboys gotten so far?

A few more games? He has hardly played for the Packers.

 

[vlad]

We didn't win the trade because we didn't get better. We got worse. Doesn't matter what Micah is doing with GB, we got worse. It's been long enough we should have seen the signs of turning this thing around like the Cowboys did in 1990 the next season after the Walker trade. We are at that same time frame with the Parsons trade and the team has regressed even further on defense.

Uh oh. Logic. Who do you think you are?

 

[nobody]

We didn't win the trade because we didn't get better. We got worse. Doesn't matter what Micah is doing with GB, we got worse. It's been long enough we should have seen the signs of turning this thing around like the Cowboys did in 1990 the next season after the Walker trade. We are at that same time frame with the Parsons trade and the team has regressed even further on defense.

But players aren't in a vacuum. Defensive schemes/philosophies and coaches differ. There was consistency in the 90's. There's no consistencies here. There was less Jerry meddling in the early 90's. There's constant Jerry meddling now. Just looking at the players for if the trade worked is fool's gold. It's still too early to tell who 'won' the trade.

 

[SoupcanSam]

We didn't win the trade because we didn't get better. We got worse. Doesn't matter what Micah is doing with GB, we got worse. It's been long enough we should have seen the signs of turning this thing around like the Cowboys did in 1990 the next season after the Walker trade. We are at that same time frame with the Parsons trade and the team has regressed even further on defense.

Well we suck and micah has a broken back, so its a wash. One of the worse transactions in nfl history.

 

[ghst187]

They didn't trade Micah knowing he was going to get hurt lol.

But that’s the reality of what happened so when you’re calculating in hindsight, it becomes relevant

 

[diamonddelts]

We gotta stop with the lost trade talk.

OP can not see the painstaking irony of his own statement.

 

[StarLord]

Dallas hasn't had the edge since Troy and Michael.

 

[dupree89]

No we stink

 

[starz88]

We didn't win the trade because we didn't get better. We got worse. Doesn't matter what Micah is doing with GB, we got worse. It's been long enough we should have seen the signs of turning this thing around like the Cowboys did in 1990 the next season after the Walker trade. We are at that same time frame with the Parsons trade and the team has regressed even further on defense.

That trade had one major factor. Jimmy Johnson was the head coach and had a vision of what he wanted, this “front office” throws crap at the wall and hopes it sticks because they don’t want the coach to be the spear of the organization

 

[TequilaCowboy]

I think most of the fans here have gotten past the MP trade and are really only just looking at if the Cowboys improved......which apparently they did not. No one really cares what MP is doing or not doing in GB I didn't like him in the last year when he was playing the "injured" card and laying on the table on the sidelines during a game. If you press GB, bet they regret right now they made the trade just to see him not playing. But again, who cares. This is mainly brought up by a few and it's their problem.

 

[nate dizzle]

But that’s the reality of what happened so when you’re calculating in hindsight, it becomes relevant

If he's not traded then maybe the knee injury never happens...some butterfly effect shtuff right there

 

[SoupcanSam]

OP can not see the painstaking irony of his own statement.

You want me to agree with you I see

 

[Redsfan_83]

 

[plasticman]

An injury to a player is not transferable under different circumstances. Just because he got hurt in Green Bay doesn't mean that he would have automatically been hurt in Dallas.

In fact, I would submit that Parsons wouldn't have been hurt in that game because he would not have been a Packer and the specific circumstances of his injury never would have occurred.

Let me give everyone a "before and after" scenario so that we can look and compare the difference in the performance of the defense during and after Micah Parsons was a Dallas Cowboy.

During the combined four seasons that Micah wore blue and silver:

The Dallas Cowboys led the league in turnovers in general, INTs in particular.

In two of the seasons different Cowboy CBs led the league in INTs. The were both made 1st team All-Pros.

The Cowboys were ranked #2 in sacks. During this four season span, only the Ravens had more...they had 3 more.

The Dallas Cowboys had the highest scoring defense in the league.....by far. One of the CBs broke the NFL record for most TDs scored by INT in a season. Defensive linemen were returning fumbles for TDs.

The results of last season combined with the games so far this season is what I refer to as "the after".

Since the trade:

The Cowboys are ranked 28th in sacks.

They are ranked 31st in INTs for the combined games of 2025 and 2026.

For this season alone, they are the only NFL team not to record an INT. In fact, this the first time in their history that they have failed to get an INT after five games.

And the two All-Pro CBs?

They got their huge Cowboy contracts....and then proceeded to demonstrate, rather effectively, how much they didn't deserve it.

Many players and even coaches benefited from the results of those seasons. Parsons D-line teammates went to other teams and were given huge contracts.

Disgraced former HC Dan Quinn's career was resurrected.

Is this all just some huge, totally unrelated, coincidence? Is that what some believe?

Micah Parsosn was a "multiplier". He made other players better by placing them in circumstances where they had a much higher probability of success.

The vast majority of INTs are not the result of a CB outsmarting a QB and then making a better athletic move than the WR. They are typically the result of a QB running for their life and having to make lower percentage passes as a result.

The Cowboys opponent QBs were trying to escape a DE who ran faster than every CB at his predraft combine.

Parsons would hit the ballcarrier; the ball would come squirting out and the lucky Cowboy it bounced to was gifted a rare stat.

What has the Cowboys won from a trade that destroyed a season a week before it even began? They have two former Pro Bowl DTs, average age of 30. They have yet another underachieving DE in a long list of former high draft picks.

Parsons was injured last season and missed 3 games. He still had 12.5 sacks, 2 forced fumbles, 12 tackles for a loss and 27 QB hits. Last season, only one Cowboys player recorded more than half of those numbers after 17 games.....and he is no longer on the team.

The 3-2 Green Bay Packers, the Cowboys next opponent, are trying to hold on until their defensive star, a true difference maker, returns to them.

Who is the true difference maker that will change the Cowboys present trajectory. He certainly isn't among the players the Cowboys received in this amazing trade.

 

[ghst187]

If he's not traded then maybe the knee injury never happens...some butterfly effect shtuff right there

Fair, but there’s also the back issue….i thought it was just a matter of time before the injuries start piling up and his impact and availability starts degrading rapidly. We keep comparing him to his best and most available self but not sure we will ever see that from him again other than flashes between missed games. It’s not my money but I didn’t want to lock up 40m in a guy who I don’t think will stay healthy and be available every game.

 

[yentl911]

The current state of the team and defense is more than the Micah trade.

We weren’t good with Micah on this defense and we aren’t good now.