Cowboys Training Camp Battles, Part I: Jason Williams vs. Sean Lee

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By Jonathan Bales
http://dallascowboystimes.com/2010/...rt-i-jason-williams-vs-sean-lee/#comment-4168

As Cowboys training camp approaches, somewhat of a paradox surrounds the team. Excitement and confidence are plentiful, yet there are a multitude of question marks for the Cowboys on offense, defense, and special teams.

Who is going to be starting at left tackle? How about in the slot? Who will return punts and kicks? Will David Buehler win all kicking duties? Who will be the nickel linebacker? The free safety?

The Cowboys, as one of the league’s most talented squads (perhaps even the creme of the crop), sure do have a lot of question marks. But it is important to differentiate between a “question mark” and a “hole.” At this point, there are no obvious holes on the team–no blatant weak spots.

Instead, there are positions where dependable play has been replaced by potential. But why the switch? Why substitute an unknown commodity for dependability? Well, if you can only “depend” on a player for mediocre play, then plugging in the ‘potential,’ even if it is a risk, is probably the right move.

For example, who would you rather have starting at left tackle: a player who the Cowboys can count on for average play (Flozell Adams), or a player who has, say, a 75% chance of being a tremendous player, but could also flop (Doug Free)?

There is no right or wrong answer. Perhaps it is savvy to fill a team with both high risk/high reward players and more dependable ones with less upside. One thing I know, however, is that teams with mediocre players don’t win championships. Organizations that take chances win it all, and the Dallas Cowboys are taking a lot of calculated gambles heading into the 2010 season.

One such gamble is heading into camp with various positions “up for grabs.” In our new “Cowboys Training Camp Battles” Series, I will analyze these positional battles, detailing who I think will win each job and why.

In this first installment, I will take a look one of the Cowboys’ backup positions (albeit an important one)–the nickel linebacker spot.

Battle for the Nickel Linebacker Job

The Cowboys were ensured a new nickel linebacker in 2010 after Bobby Carpenter was traded to St. Louis. Second-year man Jason Williams, who is practically a rookie, will battle with Penn State’s Sean lee for the job.

Jason Williams Scouting Report

Taken from my article on the potential impact of second-year players:

Williams is an athletic freak. He ran a 4.4 forty-yard dash at his Pro Day. Had Williams had all of 2009 to learn, that kind of speed could have really helped Dallas.

He may not be as instinctual as Lee, but if Williams can reach a point where he is fully comfortable with the mental aspects of his position, watch out. He would then be able to let his athleticism take over, and he is undoubtedly the most athletic inside linebacker on the team.

Williams is also a competitor who will embrace the challenge laid before him.

Sean Lee Scouting Report

Taken from my post-draft analysis:

Positives: One of the hardest workers you will ever meet, surprisingly athletic, great in coverage

Negatives: Slightly undersized for a 3-4 defense, coming off of 2008 knee surgery, may not have a very high ceiling

Lee is a much different player than Williams. His athleticism will surprise you, but he is nowhere near Williams in terms of speed or explosion.

There is a lot more that goes into player linebacker then speed, however, and Lee has all the intangibles. He is intelligent, hard-working, and a great leader. His upside might be limited, but so is his downside.

Pros/Cons of Starting Williams

Williams is a high risk/high reward player. I feel confident in saying he is much more likely than Lee to give up a big play, but also much more likely to make one. For a Cowboys defense that did everything right in 2009 besides force turnovers, Williams may be the smart pick because he offers the Cowboys more playmaking ability.


Pros/Cons of Starting Lee

Lee is the opposite of Williams–a low risk/medium reward player. I love Lee’s character, but I can’t seem him making a ton of game-breaking plays. On the flip side, he also won’t give up many big plays. I compare him to a young Zach Thomas.

Advantage

This one is a coin toss right now. As I said, Williams and Lee are different players. It is possible the Cowboys could utilize each player in different situations (Lee in normal game situations, Williams when a big play is needed), but one guy figures to receive the bulk of the nickel snaps. I am putting this battle at 50/50 right now, although if forced to select one, I would choose Lee due to his sensational spring workouts.
 
It's gotta be williams unless he totally doesn't get it at all.
 
I didn't realize that safety wasn't a hole or a glaring weakness that's good to know.
 
Rampage;3444702 said:
why can't they both be the Nickel linebackers?

That's a good point and one I talked about with someone previously. What do you guys think about the chances of both players coming in during nickel situations?
 
Wood;3444694 said:
Gryphon;3444506 said:
By Jonathan Bales
http://dallascowboystimes.com/2010/...rt-i-jason-williams-vs-sean-lee/#comment-4168


Sean Lee Scouting Report

"Taken from my post-draft analysis:

Positives: One of the hardest workers you will ever meet, surprisingly athletic, great in coverage"

** When referring to Sean Lee....why is it suprising that he athletic?? This isnt the first time I have read this about him.....is it because he is White?

You could just as easily say the reverse for Williams, saying he's an athletic freak but might be too dumb to let it work in his favor.

It's because Lee's combine numbers aren't outstanding. He isn't exceptionally fast, strong, quick or explosive on paper but on the field he's always in the mix.

Whereas Williams numbers are great, but he's making a larger step competition wise and was injured last year.
 
Wood;3444694 said:
Gryphon;3444506 said:
By Jonathan Bales
http://dallascowboystimes.com/2010/...rt-i-jason-williams-vs-sean-lee/#comment-4168


Sean Lee Scouting Report

"Taken from my post-draft analysis:

Positives: One of the hardest workers you will ever meet, surprisingly athletic, great in coverage"

** When referring to Sean Lee....why is it suprising that he athletic?? This isnt the first time I have read this about him.....is it because he is White?

yeah, so
 
TheCount;3444732 said:
Wood;3444694 said:
You could just as easily say the reverse for Williams, saying he's an athletic freak but might be too dumb to let it work in his favor.

It's because Lee's combine numbers aren't outstanding. He isn't exceptionally fast, strong, quick or explosive on paper but on the field he's always in the mix.

Whereas Williams numbers are great, but he's making a larger step competition wise and was injured last year.


You might want to look up their combine/pro day numbers again. Unless you think the 40 is the end all, be all, Lee's numbers match up with just about anyone's.
 
Rampage;3444702 said:
why can't they both be the Nickel linebackers?

Probably has to do with youth. Both are essentially rookies. I think you want at least Bradie or Brooking alongside one of them. I can't imagine relying on youth when you're in a 3rd and 10 situation and you have rookies out there as you're inside linebackers. And we like to blitz our inside linebackers as well. That's probably where Jason Williams speed will come in handy. But damn I didn't know he ran a 4.4. Goodness. He must've been real raw to get drafted in the 3rd round.
 
rocyaice;3445108 said:
Probably has to do with youth. Both are essentially rookies. I think you want at least Bradie or Brooking alongside one of them. I can't imagine relying on youth when you're in a 3rd and 10 situation and you have rookies out there as you're inside linebackers. And we like to blitz our inside linebackers as well. That's probably where Jason Williams speed will come in handy. But damn I didn't know he ran a 4.4. Goodness. He must've been real raw to get drafted in the 3rd round.


You should have seen him last year in preseason, he was a wrecking ball. Very raw but not afraid to hit...
 
Rampage;3444702 said:
why can't they both be the Nickel linebackers?

My thoughts exactly. I bet both will see a lot of time alongside one of the vets early on, by season's end both will be the field together as the nickel LBers. Gottta get your playmakers in the game (Lee is going to be the best coverage ILB on team, and JWilliams hits like a meteor strike).
 
Wood;3444694 said:
Gryphon;3444506 said:
By Jonathan Bales
http://dallascowboystimes.com/2010/...rt-i-jason-williams-vs-sean-lee/#comment-4168


Sean Lee Scouting Report

"Taken from my post-draft analysis:

Positives: One of the hardest workers you will ever meet, surprisingly athletic, great in coverage"

** When referring to Sean Lee....why is it suprising that he athletic?? This isnt the first time I have read this about him.....is it because he is White?


No. It's probably surprising that he's athletic because he came from the Big Ten. Schools in the Big Ten, particularly Penn State, traditionally recruit slower, lumbering, run-stopping players along the front seven.
 
casmith07;3446083 said:
Wood;3444694 said:
No. It's probably surprising that he's athletic because he came from the Big Ten. Schools in the Big Ten, particularly Penn State, traditionally recruit slower, lumbering, run-stopping players along the front seven.

HEY! Im from big 10 country and I resemble that remark!:D Besides, when it comes to athleticism these guys didnt know what hit them when MY boys came to town! POWER and speed baby!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL9PWcwHxQM&feature=related
 
casmith07;3446083 said:
Wood;3444694 said:
No. It's probably surprising that he's athletic because he came from the Big Ten. Schools in the Big Ten, particularly Penn State, traditionally recruit slower, lumbering, run-stopping players along the front seven.


I don't read/post here enough to tell whether posts are made with a sense of parody or the posters really have room temperature IQs.


This is a perfect example of that.
 
No. It's probably surprising that he's athletic because he came from the Big Ten. Schools in the Big Ten, particularly Penn State, traditionally recruit slower, lumbering, run-stopping players along the front seven.[/quote]



I don't read/post here enough to tell whether posts are made with a sense of parody or the posters really have room temperature IQs.


This is a perfect example of that.[/quote]

I am pretty sure he was serious. I never knew the Big Ten went out of their way to recruit slow lumbering players. You learn something new everyday.
 

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