Cowlishaw: Cowboys trying something new; might work, might get Romo beat up

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm stating what I saw on tape. Its not about Garrett overloading his player early. It was about Green being the #1 disappointment in camp. He maybe out of shape or that he's just not used the game. But it still doesn't bode well that he was getting beat by everyone and whiffed many times.

Like I mentioned before he could have been had for a lot lower pick - we could have gotten everyone we wanted including Ajayi. Its wishful thinking but whats done is done. Not making a big stink about what is done. I'm stating that he could have gotten a runningback and still get Green. Some scouts projected Green as a late rounder just a little ahead of Gibson because of his injury history. Thus I'm pointing out that Green is just as much as a risk taken in the 3rd as if we had taken a runningback at that slot. Our draft would have looked even better.

tape. Could have gotten. Some scouts.

Thanks Nostradamus. I needed that.

As I said, that was their third training session of the day. They had already done a walkthrough and a workout with Woicik. He was running first team and the coaches were doing stuff like not allowing them to take off their helmets or go to a knee. I think you completely miss the point of rookie training camp.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

as of right now training camp hasn't officially started.
as of right now the season opener is a long way away
as of right now, very few people are moaning we took frederick or hitchens

i'll let the OH MY GOD PANIC PANIC PANIC people run around and do what they do and hope in time, lots of time for some, they come to realize "as of right now" is a very short sighted way of seeing things.

as of right now, anyway.

Which is my point; Anything can change. But as of right now, Green isnt looking great.

Which supports a position that maybe we should have taken a RB in the 3rd?

 

[iceberg]

Which is my point; Anything can change. But as of right now, Green isnt looking great.

Which supports a position that maybe we should have taken a RB in the 3rd?

good thing no one ended the race RIGHT NOW then, huh?

and no it doesn't. besides, how difficult is it to support a *maybe*?

 

[JoeBoBBY]

so if we win the 1st one going with what we have now, do you simply delay the panic, or let it go?

no one really expected demarco to have the year he did, but he did. now suddenly we can't replace him. i've always ALWAYS been a proponent that if you have talent in the lines, the skill positions will improve and look MUCH better. we had an improvement in those last year on the OL and we did in fact see an improved running game.

staying committed to it was just as much a success factor as murray was. all pieces and parts contributed to murrays great season.

so let me ask you this - outside of keeping murray or signing peterson, who would you have brought in this off-season to be our RB? i hear people all bent out of shape upset we didn't bring anyone but they seldom offer who they'd have brought if given the chance.

Draft pick, forsett, mathews, Gore, Spiller, Helu.... a few others. There is a rumor we could even trade for AP. The FO had all year to line up a replacement for DM and anticipate his departure. And thats "as of right now"; I have no idea who gets cut or becomes available in the future.

Now, none of these guys are anything to hollar about(besides AP), but thats what we have available for next year and Romos 1-3 year window.

I have to believe, either the Cowboys were caught off guard by how much money DM got, or they really do believe , going into what should be a year to push for a SB, that Mcfadden and Randle was the way to go.......or maybe something else is brewing?

If we open the season with run DMC and Randle, after the season we put together last year, then I have to think something went wrong, or they really do believe the RB position doesnt really matter behind are OL. Which , I believe is a mistake.

Even if the RBBC is successful, I still think its a gamble they didn't have to take.

But I am just a fan. No access to any inside info.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I blame fantasy football.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

good thing no one ended the race RIGHT NOW then, huh?

and no it doesn't. besides, how difficult is it to support a *maybe*?

well, thats what we deal in , for the most part, as fans and people who BS about the season 4 months before it begins.... but im okay as long as I get my Cowboys fix.

This is been the most exciting and interesting offseason since HW trade...

 

[mattjames2010]

So you agree that he his performance dropped significantly after he got hurt? You agree that him falling down at first contact for the last two months of the season is a good minimum expectation from his replacements?

As for your denial, if you don't think that he has the ability to repeat his previous performance then I don't see what reason you have to cry about.

Cry about what? I have been on board with us letting Murray go until we didn't replace him with someone younger. You better damn well believe I'd much prefer Murray here than McFadden.

As for his dropoff, we had him rushing a ton throughout the season. There are very few RBs who can do that, and I was always wanting us to lessen the workload and getting our backups involved a little more.

No, I didn't want a committee approach, but Randle could have used about 50-60 more carries last year.

 

[mattjames2010]

He is talking about how to make an intelligent prognosis. That is lost on you is very telling.

Intelligent prognosis? We are discussing their INJURY HISTORY and it being a pattern. An RB being injured since his sophomore year in college IS a good indicator of what will MOST LIKELY happen the in the future.

And no "medical reports" - we can't see the injury history of players? You mean the NFL doesn't show us this weekly?

 

[mattjames2010]

He is talking about how to make an intelligent prognosis. That is lost on you is very telling.

Intelligent prognosis? We are discussing their INJURY HISTORY and it being a pattern. An RB being injured since his sophomore year in college IS a good indicator of what will MOST LIKELY happen the in the future.

And no "medical reports" - we can't see the injury history of players? You mean the NFL doesn't show us this weekly?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Intelligent prognosis? We are discussing their INJURY HISTORY and it being a pattern. An RB being injured since his sophomore year in college IS a good indicator of what will MOST LIKELY happen the in the future.

And no "medical reports" - we can't see the injury history of players? You mean the NFL doesn't show us this weekly?

I'm saying that you cannot make an intelligent or informed prognosis that way. You are waving your hands at frequency. You don't even argue that you just double down on it. Shrilly I might add.

 

[mattjames2010]

I'm saying that you cannot make an intelligent or informed prognosis that way. You are waving your hands at frequency. You don't even argue that you just double down on it. Shrilly I might add.

You can't? When discussing players you need to rely on, you are telling me their history in the NFL is something you can't go by? Last I checked, the injury issues at LB is one of the main reasons we added such depth; but hey, why would we do something like that? We can't see into the future, Lee and McClain MIGHT stay healthy this season.

A player being injured 4 years straight and demonstrating that he is mentally weak when coming off an injury is not something to base decisions on? A player being injured for 6 straight seasons and only staying healthy when his touches were reduced is not something to base a decision on? We have to ignore all of this because we can't see into the future?